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by LUX » 24 Oct 2006 13:07

I reckon he's underused this season. I'd have him in midfield for away games (maybe for Convey). He scores, he tackles, he defends.

Just what we need.

Release Bobby on "weaker" sides at the Madstad. But I'd still try and find a place for BG.

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by londinium » 24 Oct 2006 13:12

LUX I reckon he's underused this season. I'd have him in midfield for away games (maybe for Convey). He scores, he tackles, he defends.

Just what we need.

Release Bobby on "weaker" sides at the Madstad. But I'd still try and find a place for BG.


Agreed he did well on Sunday and seemed to be on the same wavelength as Blakey which made for a few decent Blakey crosses.

Have to be worried that he is (and so is Blakey for that matter) woefully slow and was pleased to see that Walcott never swapped flanks as he would have made them look like statues. That said, he is a good positional player and tackler and thankfully doesnt have to rely on his pace or lack off too often

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by Huntley & Palmer » 24 Oct 2006 13:14

He was torn apart in the Villa game when he replaced Sonko. I would much rather a specialist player there rather than a utility one. UDC or Bikey for me everytime. I think if BG is to be used then it should only ever be in the holding role in a formation switch to 4-5-1.

In fact, I was rather disappointed that we didn't go 3-5-2 in the second half against Arsenal as I think we may have stood a better chance of getting a goal

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by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2006 13:45

It would certainly be worth considering playing him in midfield and going 4-5-1 away from home whilst Kits is out

wouldn't play him in defence though.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 24 Oct 2006 13:50

Agreed, in fact I would have thought that a 4-5-1 with Seol playing just behind Doyle would be an excellent alternative in our current lightweight strike force


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by savage 4 england » 24 Oct 2006 14:00

Something like this:

-----------------Hahnemann-----------
Murty----Sonko-----Ingimarsson---Shorey
-----------------Gunnarsson-----------------
-----------Harper-----------Sidwell----------
-----Seol-----------------------------Convey
---------------------Doyle---------------------

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by Hoop Blah » 24 Oct 2006 14:26

savage 4 england Something like this:

-----------------Hahnemann-----------
Murty----Sonko-----Ingimarsson---Shorey
-----------------Gunnarsson-----------------
-----------Harper-----------Sidwell----------
-----Seol-----------------------------Convey
---------------------Doyle---------------------


Personally I think that (with Hunt for Convey) would've been a better option against Arsenal to try and counter their exceptional midfield, especially once it was decided that Lita was not going to be playing.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 24 Oct 2006 14:29

Yup, you could even push Shorey and Murts further up and flood the midfield even more and drop Gunnar back to a third centre back if required.

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by Chaney » 24 Oct 2006 14:32

as anyone ever considered using Seol on the left?
he is a good two footed player judging on the goals he scored this season.
it was noticable that both Chelsea and Arsenal starved him of service, its obvious that he was pinpointed as our main dangerman, so to play him on the left and Little on the right should be an option for SC to look at.


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by Stranded » 24 Oct 2006 14:40

Chaney as anyone ever considered using Seol on the left?
he is a good two footed player judging on the goals he scored this season.
it was noticable that both Chelsea and Arsenal starved him of service, its obvious that he was pinpointed as our main dangerman, so to play him on the left and Little on the right should be an option for SC to look at.


Didn't Wolves often play him on the left? Seemed that most of his poor games for them occured when he played there.

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by Wax Jacket » 24 Oct 2006 14:52

Huntley & Palmer In fact, I was rather disappointed that we didn't go 3-5-2 in the second half against Arsenal as I think we may have stood a better chance of getting a goal


Me too - thought it showed something of a lack of imagination on SC's part not to go for that.

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by juanpablo » 24 Oct 2006 14:54

4-5-1 is not the way to stay up, stick to our tried and tested game eg westham and wigan last season

we would be inviting pressure in a formation we havant tried recently

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by MartinRdg » 24 Oct 2006 14:57

juanpablo 4-5-1 is not the way to stay up, stick to our tried and tested game eg westham and wigan last season

we would be inviting pressure in a formation we havant tried recently


Not sure about that. Surely more sense to play 4-5-1 away at Arsenal for example and play for the draw.


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by John Madejski's Wallet » 24 Oct 2006 15:02

BG has more tackling ability, airial ability, defensive nouse and shooting ability than Harps and Sidders put together. Criminally underused in midfield. We look so much more assured and solid when he comes into the middle

I also don't think he's as slow as he seems. He makes everything look slow, but on a flat run he can keep up with most players.

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by leon » 24 Oct 2006 15:07

John Madejski's Wallet BG has more tackling ability, airial ability, defensive nouse and shooting ability than Harps and Sidders put together. Criminally underused in midfield. We look so much more assured and solid when he comes into the middle

I also don't think he's as slow as he seems. He makes everything look slow, but on a flat run he can keep up with most players.


Spot on.

And he doesn't lose possession either (Harper/Sidwell..?) . Which at this level is vital.

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by Hoop Blah » 24 Oct 2006 15:09

juanpablo 4-5-1 is not the way to stay up, stick to our tried and tested game eg westham and wigan last season

we would be inviting pressure in a formation we havant tried recently


Depends on the opposition and the players we have available.

Sticking religiously to our favoured 4-4-2 because it's what we usually do would be a mistake. If Pardew had done that a few years ago he'd have been called tactically naive!

I don't think we're good enough to not adapt to the opposition and just think we can play our own game all the time.

I do think we've got it right in the sense that we're looking to go out and win games though, I guess that makes us much like Wigan and West Ham last year.

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by savage 4 england » 24 Oct 2006 15:13

I would love to play 4-4-2 every game. But, without Kitson it is very hard. The formation 4-5-1 doesn't need to be defensive; i reckon we can score more goals with 5 in midfield at the moment.

We should only play 4-5-1 when we have a tricky away fixture. Once Kitson comes back we should play 4-4-2.

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by Forbury Lion » 24 Oct 2006 17:23

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Huntley & Palmer In fact, I was rather disappointed that we didn't go 3-5-2 in the second half against Arsenal as I think we may have stood a better chance of getting a goal


Me too - thought it showed something of a lack of imagination on SC's part not to go for that.
11-0-0 might have kept the scoreline down a bit.

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by Arch » 24 Oct 2006 17:25

Huntley & Palmer He was torn apart in the Villa game when he replaced Sonko. I would much rather a specialist player there rather than a utility one. UDC or Bikey for me everytime.
On admittedly scant evidence, I'd probably agree about Bikey, but I thought there was a huger improvement at RB in the second half against Arsenal. Not perfection, by any means, and he was caught out at least a couple of times, but who wasn't on Sunday? Unlike DLC, Gunnarsson was extremely assertive, mobile, tackled hard and got well-integrated with the attack. If a major strength of our team has been continuity, Brynjar seems to be the one guy we can bring in (maybe Hunt too) and not seem to lose any of our unity and balance.

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by londinium » 24 Oct 2006 17:34

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Huntley & Palmer He was torn apart in the Villa game when he replaced Sonko. I would much rather a specialist player there rather than a utility one. UDC or Bikey for me everytime.
On admittedly scant evidence, I'd probably agree about Bikey, but I thought there was a huger improvement at RB in the second half against Arsenal. Not perfection, by any means, and he was caught out at least a couple of times, but who wasn't on Sunday? Unlike DLC, Gunnarsson was extremely assertive, mobile, tackled hard and got well-integrated with the attack. If a major strength of our team has been continuity, Brynjar seems to be the one guy we can bring in (maybe Hunt too) and not seem to lose any of our unity and balance.


Very hard to judge on Sundays performances DLC wasnt at fault for any of the goal and BG came on when the game was as good as over and Arsenal were fairly content passing the ball about without making much effort to press forward. Dont get me wrong I am a big BG fan but he was allowed more possession and to push on due to the game being already won.

BTW DLC lost the ball and missed less tackles than either Siddders, Harps, Seol, Ivar or Shorey.

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