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Re: Safe standing progress

by Snowflake Royal » 16 May 2019 20:44

Don't Panic I see Wolves are now installing Rail seating, believe Spurs have it in their new stadium, what chances of us bringing it in for the South stand as an experiment?

Bugger all, the rake of the stadium is supposedly not compatible without some fairly heavy duty renovation iirc. The club is supposedly open to the idea in principle, but I think it would have to be part of an expansion works.

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Re: Safe standing progress

by Wallsy » 16 May 2019 22:47

Snowflake Royal
Don't Panic I see Wolves are now installing Rail seating, believe Spurs have it in their new stadium, what chances of us bringing it in for the South stand as an experiment?

Bugger all, the rake of the stadium is supposedly not compatible without some fairly heavy duty renovation iirc. The club is supposedly open to the idea in principle, but I think it would have to be part of an expansion works.


This is no longer a problem according to Jon Darch.

If anything we are better suited than most due to the very generous leg-room we offer.

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Re: Safe standing progress

by CountryRoyal » 18 May 2019 10:30

Depending on the continued and future success of Club 1871, something will have to happen to accommodate the fans imho. Whilst assuming that we do well on the pitch I can only imagine that the demand will go past the small capacity at the moment so at that time what would be a solution? Safe standing? Moving the away fans?

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Re: Safe standing progress

by Snowflake Royal » 18 May 2019 10:43

CountryRoyal Depending on the continued and future success of Club 1871, something will have to happen to accommodate the fans imho. Whilst assuming that we do well on the pitch I can only imagine that the demand will go past the small capacity at the moment so at that time what would be a solution? Safe standing? Moving the away fans?

Amusing to talk about the possible / probable need to expand space for C1871 given how vocal a few people were that it was a complete failure and needed to be stopped before Xmas and would not continue next season. :lol:

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Re: Safe standing progress

by CountryRoyal » 18 May 2019 10:52

True but it’s not genuine debate at this point, just my perhaps premature hypothetical ramblings. I honestly think Club 1871 is finely balanced and it’s existence is fragile at the moment. It’s very early and much of its success is down to our improved form under Jose. We need a solid period of steady footballing stabilisation and most importantly, a consistently improved home form. The quicker something is to grow the easier it is to collapse and if we are absolute toilet week in week out then attendances will likely drop and Club 1871 will too, be depleted. It will be interesting to see the uptake in season tickets sold there. But agree, a far cry from the inevitable colossal failure a few (cough OMA) were adamant it would be.


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Re: Safe standing progress

by tmesis » 18 May 2019 18:07

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Don't Panic I see Wolves are now installing Rail seating, believe Spurs have it in their new stadium, what chances of us bringing it in for the South stand as an experiment?

Bugger all, the rake of the stadium is supposedly not compatible without some fairly heavy duty renovation iirc. The club is supposedly open to the idea in principle, but I think it would have to be part of an expansion works.

I'd have thought it would depend pretty heavily on whether the intention was to retain the same capacity, but just stood up, or to increase the capacity.

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Re: Safe standing progress

by RG30 » 22 Sep 2021 12:49

The Football Supporters’ Association (FSA) was contacted last night by the Sports Ground Safety Association (SGSA), who told us that the option for football clubs to offer licensed standing at all levels of the game in England and Wales has at last been passed into official Government policy.

The SGSA has now announced steps to invite Premier League and Championship clubs to apply to offer standing areas from 1st January 2022, bringing to an end an FSA-led Safe Standing campaign that has lasted more than three decades.

The FSA has always argued that standing could be introduced – an argument backed by the overwhelming majority of supporters. There is a tradition of fans standing at games as it increases choice, improves atmospheres and ensures supporter safety when hosted in properly managed and licensed standing areas.

Kevin Miles, chief executive of the FSA and longstanding Safe Standing campaigner, said: “We are beyond delighted to finally claim a win for the FSA’s Safe Standing campaign after extra time, penalties and more than a few replays and postponements.

“Today’s announcement is the result of prolonged and sustained campaigning by football fans – a victory for ordinary people with ordinary jobs who refused to accept the Taylor Report’s contention that standing could not be managed safely.

“It started in a pre-internet, pre-mobile phone world where running a campaign meant Sunday morning trips to social clubs in Altrincham, teleconferences, leafleting political gatherings in the rain and letter-writing; relentless letter-writing.

“More recently it has been very much a team effort, a sophisticated, co-ordinated partnership between the FSA, other fans and fans’ organisations, colleagues at the various football leagues and authorities, football clubs, MPs, civil servants, friendly journalists and more enlightened factions of the UK policing authorities. We’ve come a long way.

“Too many people to mention have worked tirelessly for so long to bring about today’s news. Those people know who they are and we look forward to having a well-deserved beer or two over the next few weeks and months. Who knows, we may even take in a match from a standing area.”

Pete Daykin, the co-ordinator of the FSA’s Safe Standing campaign, added:

“Today’s announcement from the SGSA is an outbreak of common sense! It brings to an end a farcical situation in which fans at every ground continue to stand in their thousands – often to the detriment of those who can’t or don’t want to stand behind them – but that clubs can’t officially recognise or tackle in a constructive, proactive way.

“It also rights a historical wrong, breaking once and for all any suggestion of a link between ordinary football fans who prefer to stand and criminals, troublemakers and hooligans. It sounds preposterous to be saying it in 2021, but this was for so long the view of many of those in charge of running the game and the country, who neither understood football nor took the time to get to know its supporters. Today is a huge day for match-going fans.”


https://thefsa.org.uk/news/32-year-safe-standing-campaign-finally-wins/

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Re: Safe standing progress

by Dirk Gently » 22 Sep 2021 13:20

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The Football Supporters’ Association (FSA) was contacted last night by the Sports Ground Safety Association (SGSA), who told us that the option for football clubs to offer licensed standing at all levels of the game in England and Wales has at last been passed into official Government policy.

The SGSA has now announced steps to invite Premier League and Championship clubs to apply to offer standing areas from 1st January 2022, bringing to an end an FSA-led Safe Standing campaign that has lasted more than three decades.

The FSA has always argued that standing could be introduced – an argument backed by the overwhelming majority of supporters. There is a tradition of fans standing at games as it increases choice, improves atmospheres and ensures supporter safety when hosted in properly managed and licensed standing areas.

Kevin Miles, chief executive of the FSA and longstanding Safe Standing campaigner, said: “We are beyond delighted to finally claim a win for the FSA’s Safe Standing campaign after extra time, penalties and more than a few replays and postponements.

“Today’s announcement is the result of prolonged and sustained campaigning by football fans – a victory for ordinary people with ordinary jobs who refused to accept the Taylor Report’s contention that standing could not be managed safely.

“It started in a pre-internet, pre-mobile phone world where running a campaign meant Sunday morning trips to social clubs in Altrincham, teleconferences, leafleting political gatherings in the rain and letter-writing; relentless letter-writing.

“More recently it has been very much a team effort, a sophisticated, co-ordinated partnership between the FSA, other fans and fans’ organisations, colleagues at the various football leagues and authorities, football clubs, MPs, civil servants, friendly journalists and more enlightened factions of the UK policing authorities. We’ve come a long way.

“Too many people to mention have worked tirelessly for so long to bring about today’s news. Those people know who they are and we look forward to having a well-deserved beer or two over the next few weeks and months. Who knows, we may even take in a match from a standing area.”

Pete Daykin, the co-ordinator of the FSA’s Safe Standing campaign, added:

“Today’s announcement from the SGSA is an outbreak of common sense! It brings to an end a farcical situation in which fans at every ground continue to stand in their thousands – often to the detriment of those who can’t or don’t want to stand behind them – but that clubs can’t officially recognise or tackle in a constructive, proactive way.

“It also rights a historical wrong, breaking once and for all any suggestion of a link between ordinary football fans who prefer to stand and criminals, troublemakers and hooligans. It sounds preposterous to be saying it in 2021, but this was for so long the view of many of those in charge of running the game and the country, who neither understood football nor took the time to get to know its supporters. Today is a huge day for match-going fans.”


https://thefsa.org.uk/news/32-year-safe-standing-campaign-finally-wins/


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Re: Safe standing progress

by PATRIQT » 22 Sep 2021 13:52

Great news.


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Re: Safe standing progress

by RG30 » 04 Jul 2022 15:42

Premier League and Championship clubs will be allowed to introduce safe standing areas from the start of the 2022-23 season.

Five clubs - Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Cardiff City - took part in a government-commissioned 'early adopters' pilot study during the second half of 2021-22.

Brentford, QPR and Wolves will be the next clubs to join them in offering licensed standing in designated seated areas for home and away fans.

Other clubs are expected to follow suit during the new season.

Wembley Stadium will also offer a small licensed standing area for fans at domestic matches later in the season.

The stadiums were selected following an application process and strict conditions have been met, including enhanced use of CCTV, improved steward training and fans being strictly limited to 'one person, one space'.

The necessary legislative amendments to the Football Spectators Act were tabled in Parliament on Monday.

"Thanks to a robust trial, thorough evidence and modern engineering, we are now ready to allow standing once again in our grounds," said Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries.

"We are not reintroducing terraces and only clubs which meet strict safety criteria will be permitted."

Rails in seated areas allowed fans to stand while their safety was independently assessed and in April an interim report by CFE Research, commissioned by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority (SGSA), said that safe standing had "a positive impact on spectator safety" and improved the matchday experience.

Then in May, Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston said he was "minded" to allow stadiums to have licensed standing areas next season.

On 2 January, Stamford Bridge became the first top-flight ground to allow licensed standing in almost 30 years when Chelsea and Liverpool met in a 2-2 Premier League draw.

Designated standing areas had not been seen at Premier League grounds since the adoption of all-seater stadiums in the early 1990s - a recommendation of the Taylor Report following the Hillsborough disaster in 1989 when 97 fans died following a crush.

Spectators at many grounds have continued to stand in seated areas, most commonly behind the goals, despite regular warnings from local authorities and police that it is dangerous.

"Based upon what I have experienced and we have learnt through the pilot programme, safe standing is set to deliver an electric atmosphere at our football stadiums," said Huddleston on Monday.

"Fans have long campaigned for its introduction and we have worked carefully with supporters' groups, including the families affected by the tragic Hillsborough disaster."

Standing areas are commonplace in Germany's Bundesliga and there are similar examples across the rest of Europe, the United States and Australia.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62029516

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Re: Safe standing progress

by St Pauli » 07 Jul 2022 14:39

It's progress but unless they bring back terraces I'm still out.

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Re: Safe standing progress

by tmesis » 09 Jul 2022 13:02

St Pauli It's progress but unless they bring back terraces I'm still out.

We might be allowed terraces next season regardless.

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