Clarke to sunderland?

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Nameless » 04 Oct 2015 12:55

Would be interested to hear how a managerial change window would work.
I don't think it would be practical , possible or necessarily in any one's interests.
Making a club hang on to a failing manager for months would be crazy. You could argue clubs should only be able to appoint managers not already under contract, but then that is effectively the situation now and the bigger clubs always find ways round it.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Ian Royal » 04 Oct 2015 15:55

Nameless Would be interested to hear how a managerial change window would work.
I don't think it would be practical , possible or necessarily in any one's interests.
Making a club hang on to a failing manager for months would be crazy. You could argue clubs should only be able to appoint managers not already under contract, but then that is effectively the situation now and the bigger clubs always find ways round it.

Same as with players who are underperforming but can't go anywhere.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Royal Ginger » 04 Oct 2015 17:19

Surely only people who have never been to Sunderland would consider living and working there?

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Jack Celliers » 04 Oct 2015 21:18

JIM This topic is as bad as Pulis recommending PARDEW for ENGLAND manager,


Anybody but Hodgson, really.

Hopefully Rodgers will get a go once the Euros embarrassment is out of the way, but Pardew wouldn't be a bad second choice.

Back on topic. I'd be surprised if Steve Clarke was really the man Sunderland wanted.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by 2.8 lita injection » 04 Oct 2015 21:26

Jack Celliers
JIM This topic is as bad as Pulis recommending PARDEW for ENGLAND manager,


Anybody but Hodgson, really.

Hopefully Rodgers will get a go once the Euros embarrassment is out of the way, but Pardew wouldn't be a bad second choice.

Back on topic. I'd be surprised if Steve Clarke was really the man Sunderland wanted.



Name me a better english manager than rodgers or parjudas ?


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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Platypuss » 04 Oct 2015 21:27

Seeing as Rodgers isn't even English, just about anyone.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Nameless » 04 Oct 2015 21:27

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Nameless Would be interested to hear how a managerial change window would work.
I don't think it would be practical , possible or necessarily in any one's interests.
Making a club hang on to a failing manager for months would be crazy. You could argue clubs should only be able to appoint managers not already under contract, but then that is effectively the situation now and the bigger clubs always find ways round it.

Same as with players who are underperforming but can't go anywhere.


You appreciate there is a vast difference between carrying an underperforming player in a squad of 30 and being unable to get rid of a discredited, failing, unpopular manager ?
I was just interested in the idea and how it might work. Are you suggesting managers could only be hired and fired in the summer and January ? I can see some attractions, just doubt it would be possible or legal to enforce.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by bobby m's syrup » 05 Oct 2015 12:58

N o idea how accurate this alleged shortlist
is, but perhaps of interest.
http://www.blackcatchat.info/viewtopic. ... 72c7e772d1

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by tidus_mi2 » 05 Oct 2015 13:01

I'm not surprised Clarke isn't mentioned, haven't heard him mentioned once except for Fordham and I didn't even read the article because oxf*rd subscribing to the Sun.


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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by melonhead » 05 Oct 2015 15:38

Snowball
percy_freeman Is there a section for complete and utter bo***cks.....


I think that's called "Anything Else"


fcuk u

snowballs posts more like

eh? eh?!

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by melonhead » 05 Oct 2015 15:38

Nameless Terrible time for anyone to go to Sunderland. Stuck with a bunch of under performing players for 3 months by which time they will probably be well adrift.
You'd be surprised if a manager who has just been allowed to assemble his 'dream team' and is likely to continue getting backing from ambitious owners would be interested in a jump to a team in huge decline, but stranger things happen.
I'd file under 'this is highly unlikely and is a baseless rumour'


I agree generally


but lol at these players being anywhere near clarkes "dream" team

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by CountryRoyal » 05 Oct 2015 16:32

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Nameless Terrible time for anyone to go to Sunderland. Stuck with a bunch of under performing players for 3 months by which time they will probably be well adrift.
You'd be surprised if a manager who has just been allowed to assemble his 'dream team' and is likely to continue getting backing from ambitious owners would be interested in a jump to a team in huge decline, but stranger things happen.
I'd file under 'this is highly unlikely and is a baseless rumour'


I agree generally


but lol at these players being anywhere near clarkes "dream" team


Maybe not his ultimate dream team, but given his actual job I'd say he's more than chuffed with the squad he's assembled. In a recent interview he gave a little smile when it the competition for players and quality of depth was mentioned.

We have a crazy good squad for this division and I think he knows it.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Ian Royal » 05 Oct 2015 18:17

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Nameless Would be interested to hear how a managerial change window would work.
I don't think it would be practical , possible or necessarily in any one's interests.
Making a club hang on to a failing manager for months would be crazy. You could argue clubs should only be able to appoint managers not already under contract, but then that is effectively the situation now and the bigger clubs always find ways round it.

Same as with players who are underperforming but can't go anywhere.


You appreciate there is a vast difference between carrying an underperforming player in a squad of 30 and being unable to get rid of a discredited, failing, unpopular manager ?
I was just interested in the idea and how it might work. Are you suggesting managers could only be hired and fired in the summer and January ? I can see some attractions, just doubt it would be possible or legal to enforce.


i'm not sure i'd go with vast difference and think probably less than half the manager's who get sacked have actually been discredited.

I was thinking ~ 1 November - 31 December and 1 March - 31 March.

I'll concede it's probably a terrible idea just spat out, but anything to try and stop the ludicrous manager roundabout we have with most clubs now.


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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Libertine » 06 Oct 2015 00:15

Someday Clarke will leave...but it will be someplace much farther up the food chain than Sunderland. And part of that process will be getting Reading to the PL to stay. And if at that point he jumps to a CL caliber team it would be understandable.

Right now the best career move imo would be staying here, and continuing to rebuild his reputation after his ill-fated WBA stint, instead being in any way associated with the slow motion wreck known as Sunderland AFC.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Coppelled_Streets » 06 Oct 2015 09:59

Libertine Right now the best career move imo would be staying here, and continuing to rebuild his reputation after his ill-fated WBA stint, instead being in any way associated with the slow motion wreck known as Sunderland AFC.


This! Along with Newcastle, it's a disaster he doesn't need on his CV.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by melonhead » 06 Oct 2015 11:11

Jack Celliers
JIM This topic is as bad as Pulis recommending PARDEW for ENGLAND manager,


Anybody but Hodgson, really.

Hopefully Rodgers will get a go once the Euros embarrassment is out of the way, but Pardew wouldn't be a bad second choice.

Back on topic. I'd be surprised if Steve Clarke was really the man Sunderland wanted.


Rodgers shouldn't be getting anywhere near the England job.
id rather have pards

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by melonhead » 06 Oct 2015 11:12

tidus_mi2 I'm not surprised Clarke isn't mentioned, haven't heard him mentioned once except for Fordham and I didn't even read the article because oxf*rd subscribing to the Sun.


mentioned on talksport this morning
alan brazil laughed at the idea of leaving reading for them

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Woodley-RFC » 06 Oct 2015 15:30

melonhead
tidus_mi2 I'm not surprised Clarke isn't mentioned, haven't heard him mentioned once except for Fordham and I didn't even read the article because oxf*rd subscribing to the Sun.


mentioned on talksport this morning
alan brazil laughed at the idea of leaving reading for them

Clarke won't leave reading. my friend told me he and his wife, love it in Berkshire 8)

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Ian Royal » 06 Oct 2015 20:36

Libertine Someday Clarke will leave...but it will be someplace much farther up the food chain than Sunderland. And part of that process will be getting Reading to the PL to stay. And if at that point he jumps to a CL caliber team it would be understandable.

Right now the best career move imo would be staying here, and continuing to rebuild his reputation after his ill-fated WBA stint, instead being in any way associated with the slow motion wreck known as Sunderland AFC.

Yeah, but we think about that for every club that might be interested in our manager. Leicester and West Ham previously spring to mind. One in the same division not then doing any better and the other just in the division above and as likely to be relegated as Sunderland currently are.

We're often right, but it won't necessarily stop a manager going.

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Re: Clarke to sunderland?

by Ginger Ninjas » 07 Oct 2015 14:55

Clarke to Chelsea if/when Mourinho goes?!

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