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Loader to Bundesliga

by sandman » 16 Nov 2018 13:01


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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Basildon » 16 Nov 2018 16:02

Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Hound » 16 Nov 2018 16:07

Can understand why he hasnt been picked by Clement, and can also see that Germany seem to be offering a lot more opportunities to young players at the moment. If true, Loader would be a fool not to go there

But its also time for PC to be proactive and start making space for him in the squad. Aluko (obvs) can certainly make way for him on the bench

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Pepe the Horseman » 16 Nov 2018 16:13

How long has he got left on his contract?

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by windermereROYAL » 16 Nov 2018 16:20

Daily mail? must be true then.


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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Hound » 16 Nov 2018 16:28

Pepe the Horseman How long has he got left on his contract?


to the end of next season I believe. Might be his agent talking, but would suggest where his mind is if so

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Snowflake Royal » 16 Nov 2018 20:24

Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

We're not struggling for goals though.

Bodvarsson has 7 in 7(4) = 1 goal every start. :shock:
Meite has 6 in 14(2) = 1 goal every 2.3 starts
Baldock has 4 in 12(2) = 1 goal every 3 starts
Total 17 goals from 33 starts = 1 goal every 1.9 starts from our main strikers, and two of them have played half their games as wide forwards / wingers.

Not only that, but from what I've seen, Loader doesn't offer particularly similar things to Bod and Meite.

We've no reason to turn to him at this point, maybe we could have played him out wide whilst we were short there, but not ideal? Now if we had someone of Loader's outstanding quality in midfield or defence of the Academy, there'd be serious questions about why they haven't had a chance.

Should definitely feature before the end of the season at some point though... FA Cup maybe.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by One87One » 16 Nov 2018 20:49

Loader hasn’t been happy for a while now. If he doesn’t get a chance soon then we may well lose him on the cheap; and if so it makes a mockery of our academy when we have such a talent and we don’t utilise him but instead continue with a misfiring League 2 striker (who may or may not be able to step up, but he hasn’t exactly done a lot to justify not trying Loader out).

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Sutekh » 16 Nov 2018 23:27

Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?


Doesn’t mean he’d play in their first team. Might well go and sit in their academies and get the occasional first team outing or loan arrangement.

And if Reading thought him good enough for the first team here he’d play in the first team here so they obviously don’t think he’s ready to play - yet.

Personally l’d at least give him more time on the bench but then you have to weigh that against him actually getting full matches for the U21s. Best thing for all would probably be a January loan to a Division 3/4 club but I haven’t heard of there being any interest and if there was would he get regular starts?

And if he is out of contract in the summer then surely Reading will be in negotiation with him over a new deal so all this is hopefully not much more than agents bargaining.


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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by windermereROYAL » 17 Nov 2018 07:28

You have to draw comparison with Dom Samuels a few seasons back, he was getting the same frenzied calls all over social media for a call up. in fact he did get in our side , scoring two goals, but his record at this level wasn`t great. 72 apps with 19 goals, 17 of them were at Championship level with just TWO goals. all the rest were L1 or lower.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Old Man Andrews » 18 Nov 2018 11:42

Scoring goals hasn't been our issue, hard for Clement just to shoehorn Loader in our starting line up when our attacking players are doing a good job. It was however scandalous that he didn't start our Carabao Cup games, perfect time to include him. He should 100% be in our match day squads.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by glass half full » 18 Nov 2018 19:52

This young man has played International football with distinction.

Secure a new contract for him and loan him to an enterprising lower league side. A few Managers would welcome young, fresh, talented blood.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by John Smith » 19 Nov 2018 10:22

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Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

We're not struggling for goals though.

Baldock has 4 in 12(2) = 1 goal every 3 starts

That is a crap return! He also missed two sitters in the last 10 vs. Ipswich that should have won the game. Drop him, sell McNulty and get the young lad starting up top.


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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Old Man Andrews » 19 Nov 2018 10:26

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Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

We're not struggling for goals though.

Baldock has 4 in 12(2) = 1 goal every 3 starts

That is a crap return! He also missed two sitters in the last 10 vs. Ipswich that should have won the game. Drop him, sell McNulty and get the young lad starting up top.


McNulty simply has to go in January. Ship him out on loan to a League 1 team and be done with it.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by John Smith » 19 Nov 2018 10:39

Old Man Andrews McNulty simply has to go in January. Ship him out on loan to a League 1 team and be done with it.

Without a doubt. Was destined for failure.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Hound » 19 Nov 2018 13:47

windermereROYAL You have to draw comparison with Dom Samuels a few seasons back, he was getting the same frenzied calls all over social media for a call up. in fact he did get in our side , scoring two goals, but his record at this level wasn`t great. 72 apps with 19 goals, 17 of them were at Championship level with just TWO goals. all the rest were L1 or lower.


Just because one academy lad was over rated, doesn't mean they all will be.

I can see the argument for sticking with Bod/Meite/McNulty/Baldock. in our current situation but the fact is, if we do that then Loader will be a goner to the first team that asks him if he'd like a try at a higher level.

From what I've seen thats a big risk on a very talented player. He has been head and shoulders above the other players when I watched the academy games

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Sutekh » 19 Nov 2018 15:02

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Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

We're not struggling for goals though.

Baldock has 4 in 12(2) = 1 goal every 3 starts

That is a crap return! He also missed two sitters in the last 10 vs. Ipswich that should have won the game. Drop him, sell McNulty and get the young lad starting up top.


Underwhelming signing, £5m wasn’t it? Not a particularly good return so far. But he at least offers something different though to what was at the club before and perhaps if it was a settled lineup that didn’t give away goals like sweeties at a trick or treat convention there’d be more confidence about the team overall and therefore slightly less pressure on him to get it right every time (which he won’t as otherwise he’d be in the PL not Division 2).

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Coppells Lost Coat » 19 Nov 2018 16:17

This issue can't be restricted to Loader. I cant see Nova coming back and happy to sit on the bench. Who would you dislodge out of our front line of Baldock, Meite, Bod, Barrow, McCleary? TBh for a manager it is not the worst situation to be in.

With splashing out on Baldock and McNulty there will be lots of pressure to try and make them decent signings, maybe along the lines of Aluko and hoping they come good.
McNulty has not been give a chance really, throwing him on for the last 5-10 mins and launching balls at him isn't exactly his style.
Baldock gets in the right spaces, does the right movement but cant quite piece together the important bits IMO. But that will hopefully come.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by John Smith » 19 Nov 2018 16:57

Coppells Lost Coat This issue can't be restricted to Loader. I cant see Nova coming back and happy to sit on the bench. Who would you dislodge out of our front line of Baldock, Meite, Bod, Barrow, McCleary? TBh for a manager it is not the worst situation to be in.

With splashing out on Baldock and McNulty there will be lots of pressure to try and make them decent signings, maybe along the lines of Aluko and hoping they come good.
McNulty has not been give a chance really, throwing him on for the last 5-10 mins and launching balls at him isn't exactly his style.
Baldock gets in the right spaces, does the right movement but cant quite piece together the important bits IMO. But that will hopefully come.

Baldock and Barrow are in poor form. The manager clearly doesn't fancy Barrow and if that's the case then let's get him out. He played a crucial part in keeping us up last season but it looks like he's a different player this season.

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Re: Loader to Bundesliga

by Snowflake Royal » 19 Nov 2018 17:29

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Basildon Can't help but feel we may never see this kid in the first team. You have to wonder as well, if these clubs are genuinely interested surely he must be good enough to get in to a struggling Champ team?

We're not struggling for goals though.

Baldock has 4 in 12(2) = 1 goal every 3 starts

That is a crap return! He also missed two sitters in the last 10 vs. Ipswich that should have won the game. Drop him, sell McNulty and get the young lad starting up top.

1 in 3 is the standard for a good second striker, equals 15 goals in a season. Anything below 1 in 3 is outstanding.

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