Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Stranded » 29 Apr 2019 08:30

CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


We are likely to be shopping in the bargain basement this summer, so if there are players worth having at a cost we can afford then we should go for them.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Denver Royal » 29 Apr 2019 15:06

linkenholtroyal In my opinion
Players worth looking at:
Bolton
Mark Beevers- also another cb option very strong old school no messing cb. Out of contract too, I believe

Rotherham
Ajayi. Has been on fantastic form between him and Vaulks almost single handedly trying to keep them up. Another cb who could do a job. Bit of a rough diamond though.
Vaulks
Almost the pick of the bunch. DCM and utility back line player. Whoever gets him is getting a player with a big future ahead of him.

Yep, Beevers, 29, is out of contract.

Ajayi, 25, has one year left on his.
Vaulks, 25, also has one year left (after surprisingly signing one year extension just a few weeks back).
I'd be ok with both players, we may have a need at CB and DM, and they both have goals in them.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Jagermesiter1871 » 29 Apr 2019 16:20

CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by NewCorkSeth » 29 Apr 2019 18:44

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CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Pog was a free who scored 24 league goals for the club making him something like our 8th highest championship scorer. Its not his fault we paid him so much.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by linkenholtroyal » 29 Apr 2019 19:09

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CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.


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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by NewCorkSeth » 29 Apr 2019 19:14

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CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.

Liam Moore?

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by CountryRoyal » 29 Apr 2019 20:45

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CountryRoyal Whilst not saying you can’t get good players from relegated sides (Yiadom), they’re relegated for a reason and more often than not it’s because the players aren’t good enough. I’d quite like it if shipped a bit higher.


Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.


Why is everyone so extreme? I'm not talking about big money signings, just "a bit higher", premier league relegated players, top 6 squad players, just anyone better than oxf*rd Ipswich.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Hound » 29 Apr 2019 21:31

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linkenholtroyal In my opinion
Players worth looking at:
Bolton
Mark Beevers- also another cb option very strong old school no messing cb. Out of contract too, I believe

Rotherham
Ajayi. Has been on fantastic form between him and Vaulks almost single handedly trying to keep them up. Another cb who could do a job. Bit of a rough diamond though.
Vaulks
Almost the pick of the bunch. DCM and utility back line player. Whoever gets him is getting a player with a big future ahead of him.

Yep, Beevers, 29, is out of contract.

Ajayi, 25, has one year left on his.
Vaulks, 25, also has one year left (after surprisingly signing one year extension just a few weeks back).
I'd be ok with both players, we may have a need at CB and DM, and they both have goals in them.


I believe Rotherham had the option of a 1 year extension on Vaulks which they triggered. Don’t think Vaulks actually signed a ‘new’ contract as such

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by NewCorkSeth » 30 Apr 2019 08:11

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Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.


Why is everyone so extreme? I'm not talking about big money signings, just "a bit higher", premier league relegated players, top 6 squad players, just anyone better than oxf*rd Ipswich.

TBF the chance of us signing top 6 players or recently relegated players are just as extreme.


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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Basildon » 30 Apr 2019 09:11

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Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.

Liam Moore?

Wasn't a record signing was he?

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by NewCorkSeth » 30 Apr 2019 09:13

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linkenholtroyal Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.

Liam Moore?

Wasn't a record signing was he?

Was he not? Who came after Emerse Fae?

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Basildon » 30 Apr 2019 09:21

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NewCorkSeth Liam Moore?

Wasn't a record signing was he?

Was he not? Who came after Emerse Fae?

Not sure, was Halford before or after Fae? But anyway I always thought Moore was around the £1m mark?

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by NewCorkSeth » 30 Apr 2019 09:24

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Basildon Wasn't a record signing was he?

Was he not? Who came after Emerse Fae?

Not sure, was Halford before or after Fae? But anyway I always thought Moore was around the £1m mark?

Halford was before Fae but I though Fae was our record signing for a while?

Maybe you're right and it was Ilori who cosg us more. I cant remember..


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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Snowball » 30 Apr 2019 09:44

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Yeh thats worked well for us in the past - Aluko, Pog etc.

Struggling to think who was the last record signing that didn’t flop.


Why is everyone so extreme? I'm not talking about big money signings, just "a bit higher", premier league relegated players, top 6 squad players, just anyone better than oxf*rd Ipswich.




Reading could easily have been relegated but for last minute goals at Ipswich and v Wigan.

Other Champ clubs would fancy Moore, Swift, Rhino, Mannone, Yiadom, Meite, McNulty, Barrow and any of our loanee, plus Bod, Kelly, Gunter, Jaakola, Blacket, Richards, GMac, Baldock....

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Snowball » 30 Apr 2019 09:48

and I forgot Loader and the other promising Academy players

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Hound » 30 Apr 2019 09:49

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NewCorkSeth Was he not? Who came after Emerse Fae?

Not sure, was Halford before or after Fae? But anyway I always thought Moore was around the £1m mark?

Halford was before Fae but I though Fae was our record signing for a while?

Maybe you're right and it was Ilori who cosg us more. I cant remember..


yes was Ilori about 3.75m I believe. Moore was between 1 and 1.5m from the reports

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by Magic Hat » 30 Apr 2019 11:18

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Basildon Not sure, was Halford before or after Fae? But anyway I always thought Moore was around the £1m mark?

Halford was before Fae but I though Fae was our record signing for a while?

Maybe you're right and it was Ilori who cosg us more. I cant remember..


yes was Ilori about 3.75m I believe. Moore was between 1 and 1.5m from the reports


I think Gunter adn Mariappa were both rumored to be around £3m between those?

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by muirinho » 30 Apr 2019 11:42

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NewCorkSeth Halford was before Fae but I though Fae was our record signing for a while?

Maybe you're right and it was Ilori who cosg us more. I cant remember..


yes was Ilori about 3.75m I believe. Moore was between 1 and 1.5m from the reports


I think Gunter adn Mariappa were both rumored to be around £3m between those?


About £2m each I think. But some of that may have been dependent on us staying up, which we didn't do.

I know there are many who don't like Gunts - but in terms of transfer cost per game played it's pretty low. And we made a profit on Mapps when we sold him on. Neither were record signings though.

Whether a player is an expensive failure isn't just about transfer fees of course. You'd think overall cost compared to return would be a better marker. Like Pog for instance - undeniably expensive, regardless of whether we had to pay a fee for him. I wonder how much Drenthe was on - now he definitely was a flop!

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by John Smith » 30 Apr 2019 15:17

Snowball Other Champ clubs would fancy McNulty, Kelly, Gunter, Jaakola, Blackett, Richards

No they wouldn't but please if you know any get on the phone and let them know.

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Re: Speculation - Players From The Relegated Trio

by URZZZZ » 30 Apr 2019 15:33

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Snowball Other Champ clubs would fancy McNulty, Kelly, Gunter, Jaakola, Blackett, Richards

No they wouldn't but please if you know any get on the phone and let them know.


Harsh on Blackett. Gunter probably would as well, other four I don't see

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