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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by linkenholtroyal » 27 May 2021 17:22

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Pretty disrespectful to Bayern that he's focused on thanking his former club and not even mentioned his new club.

He has made a separate statement about joinig Bayern (see Pepe's post above).

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Hendo » 27 May 2021 17:31

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by andrew1957 » 27 May 2021 18:40

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Orion1871 You don't get given the number 3 shirt at a club like that if you are going to play for their second team.


I agree. German teams have a good record of giving younger players a chance and so it will not surprise me if he start the season first choice (hence being given 3). Then it is up to him whether or not he can keep the shirt.

As for him leaving on a free, last season I was harsh on Loader for doing the same. However, we now know how crazy our wage bill got with Gourlay and the owners allowing stupidly high wages for the likes of Baldock and Aluko and so over the last couple of years the club has been unbale to offer our own home grown talent decent wages and long term contracts. And so it is hard to be critical of the likes of Richards and Nevers for looking elsewhere. I would so much rather we had never signed all these "experienced" players but instead paid decent wages and offered our young quality players long term contracts.

Frankly the squad situation for next season looks dire and the only hope is that some Academy players like Bristow can step up and that we can obtain 5 top PL/European loan players to bolster our incredibly thin squad. Otherwise a relegation fight looks more than likely - even if we don't get a points deduction.


Can't see him displacing Davies unless they convert him back to a winger but Richards will play a number of games for them as a back up.


You might be right but Davies is only 20 and Richards 23. If Richards has just signed to be a bench player, then in the long run I think he might well regret wasting his career. Does a 23 year old at the peak of his career really just want to be a sub for a 20 year old - even if it is at a bigger club.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Jagermesiter1871 » 27 May 2021 21:22

:lol: You lot moaning about this.

Incredible move for him even if sits on the bench at debatably the best team in the world vs playing in the championship (also sometimes on the bench). Personally think he will be given a chance and with far better players around him he could be brilliant. Technically he seems superb so see no reason why he wouldn't. Fair play to him and hope he tears it up.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Snowflake Royal » 28 May 2021 00:30

Even if he doesn't play he'll earn a boatload and learn a huge amount working with some of the best players and coaches in the world.

Good luck to the chap. Can't begrudge a player the chance to move from a Championship club to easily one of the 10 biggest clubs in the world.


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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by yuomi » 28 May 2021 09:00

Absolutely don't begrudge Richards anything. He's earned one hell of an opportunity and I hope he makes the most of it. Without Olise around to do modelling shoots for instagram with his form might not dip in the second half of the season too... :D

Seriously though, wish him the best but can't help (still) being more than a bit peeved that the club have let this happen on a free, again. You can't force young talent to extend, but this is the second time in two seasons we've lost a £5m+ (and that'd be with one year on his contract) player to a top-tier European team. If you look at what Brum got for Bellingham it really grates.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Norfolk Royal » 28 May 2021 09:06

If I was Richards I would have turned down Bayern as next season there is a chance I could be named player of the year for Reading in a fans internet poll.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Zip » 28 May 2021 09:14

yuomi Absolutely don't begrudge Richards anything. He's earned one hell of an opportunity and I hope he makes the most of it. Without Olise around to do modelling shoots for instagram with his form might not dip in the second half of the season too... :D

Seriously though, wish him the best but can't help (still) being more than a bit peeved that the club have let this happen on a free, again. You can't force young talent to extend, but this is the second time in two seasons we've lost a £5m+ (and that'd be with one year on his contract) player to a top-tier European team. If you look at what Brum got for Bellingham it really grates.


It’s a difficult one with Richards because no one could foresee Bayern coming in for him a year ago. At that stage he hadn’t nailed down the left back position. That only happened in 2020/21.
Perhaps we should have at least extended his contract a year ago to avoid losing him on a free.

It’s fair to say our overall transfer dealings since 2017 have been pretty woeful.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by tidus_mi2 » 28 May 2021 10:08

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yuomi Absolutely don't begrudge Richards anything. He's earned one hell of an opportunity and I hope he makes the most of it. Without Olise around to do modelling shoots for instagram with his form might not dip in the second half of the season too... :D

Seriously though, wish him the best but can't help (still) being more than a bit peeved that the club have let this happen on a free, again. You can't force young talent to extend, but this is the second time in two seasons we've lost a £5m+ (and that'd be with one year on his contract) player to a top-tier European team. If you look at what Brum got for Bellingham it really grates.


It’s a difficult one with Richards because no one could foresee Bayern coming in for him a year ago. At that stage he hadn’t nailed down the left back position. That only happened in 2020/21.
Perhaps we should have at least extended his contract a year ago to avoid losing him on a free.

It’s fair to say our overall transfer dealings since 2017 have been pretty woeful.

Thing is the club knew his contract was expiring so I would at least hope they had the sense to put a contract offer on the table before January at which point Bayern would have been free to talk to him.


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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Hound » 28 May 2021 10:18

its difficult to know exactly what happened with Richards and his contract. There were certainly suggests a new contract wasnt discussed until it was basically too late - he was playing very well with 6 months or so left on it. But you never quite know. In retrospect we should have clearly tried to extend this time last year, but he was behind a semi crocked Obita and Blackett for most of last season - not a great sign for how good he would end up being. We've also wasted plenty of money on extending young players recently - Smith, East, Watson come to mind, so I can see why there was some reluctance

Loader was certainly offered new contracts but his heart wasnt at Reading. think we can all agree he should have been sold to Wolves when we had the chance

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Hound » 28 May 2021 10:21

Zip It’s fair to say our overall transfer dealings since 2017 have been pretty woeful.


not sure on that really. They were clearly bloody awful (bar Yiadom) in the Gourlay era, but generally pretty strong since. Made a 7th place champ finish without spending a lot and picked up some good players along the way - Ejaria, Joao, Laurent, Morro were all good to very good signings. Rafael done a good job overall, Puscas a bit hit and miss but ok.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Zip » 28 May 2021 10:25

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Zip It’s fair to say our overall transfer dealings since 2017 have been pretty woeful.


not sure on that really. They were clearly bloody awful (bar Yiadom) in the Gourlay era, but generally pretty strong since. Made a 7th place champ finish without spending a lot and picked up some good players along the way - Ejaria, Joao, Laurent, Morro were all good to very good signings. Rafael done a good job overall, Puscas a bit hit and miss but ok.


Overall 2019 was decent with some of the signings you mentioned plus the loanees in January 2019. However 2017 was appalling and 2018 pretty poor.

Re Loader we could have ended up giving him a generous deal to stay but I’m not convinced he would have been worth it. He is still only 20 so time is on his side but to date he has not come close to living up to his early promise.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by morganb » 28 May 2021 11:03

"So, Bayern Munich - what was it that attracted you to free agent Omar Richards?"

Do we think that if Richards wasn't available on a free that Bayern would still have come in for him? Do you think his agent was touting him around clubs or Bayern noticed him on some spreadsheet of top performers?


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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by URZZZZ » 28 May 2021 11:12

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Zip It’s fair to say our overall transfer dealings since 2017 have been pretty woeful.


not sure on that really. They were clearly bloody awful (bar Yiadom) in the Gourlay era, but generally pretty strong since. Made a 7th place champ finish without spending a lot and picked up some good players along the way - Ejaria, Joao, Laurent, Morro were all good to very good signings. Rafael done a good job overall, Puscas a bit hit and miss but ok.


Overall 2019 was decent with some of the signings you mentioned plus the loanees in January 2019. However 2017 was appalling and 2018 pretty poor.

Re Loader we could have ended up giving him a generous deal to stay but I’m not convinced he would have been worth it. He is still only 20 so time is on his side but to date he has not come close to living up to his early promise.


Think we’ll struggle to have a worse transfer dealing period than 2017. If you include Jan 2017 signings, we signed the following:

Ilori
Popa
Oxford
Grabban
Mutch
Mannone
Edwards
Bodvarsson
Bacuna
Clement
Aluko
Barrow

Aside from Barrow, who had two good 2 month periods in both seasons and perhaps Bodvarsson/Grabban at a push - none of those signings really worked out

Was strange as we’d made some decent signings in the summer of 2016 for frees/low transfers so the need to go out and spend millions wasn’t really required

Loader was just a bit of a nothing player, offered very little, strange as he’d started to show life at the end of his first season here

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Snowflake Royal » 28 May 2021 11:53

Ilori - the right sort of signing and not as bad as people like to make out, but not exactly a clear success
Popa - utter waste of time and money, seemingly a bad attitude too
Oxford - rather pointless, but we've done ok with loanee PL defenders so ok cover
Grabban - mindless signing, woefully out of form and not played where actually suited
Mutch - oh look, it's a name we recognise from the PL must be good. Part of an appalling transfer strategy to recruit based on name and reputation.
Mannone - absolutely woeful signing. Average keeper, not in any sort of form at a huge cost. See above
Edwards - again, not as bad as people like to make out, but one of the reputation crowd
Bodvarsson - distinctly average, but did a job. The sort of striker you sign as back up or to fill a gap until your first/second/third choice is available. Shame we didn't have a plan to do that.
Bacuna - did ok, but attitude stank and hugely overpriced. Another big money failure from the policy of signing names on a downward spiral who weren't great on big money
Clement - reasonable punt should probably have got more chances
Aluko - the absolute epitome of our transfer policy at the time. Sign players with no idea how to use them, because of their name, towards the end of their career when they're in decline, pay massively over the odds and watch them be dog shit
Barrow - partial success, but another poorly scouted player bought on potential with no thought to attitude or application.

There's only really one huge flop in there, with the main issue with a lot of the rest cost vs value. But there's also at best only a few partial successes.

We've had worse signings than a lot of them, but we've very rarely had such a long list of signings with no one who excelled.

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by Hound » 28 May 2021 12:22

Actually made a bit of a profit on Bacuna which certainly improves that signing a bit

But yes a pretty dreadful set of signings that

Clement’s weren’t great either - what was it - Yiadom - yes very good, Meyler, Baldock. Anyone else? Last two prob cost a pretty big whack as well

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by URZZZZ » 28 May 2021 12:23

Snowflake Royal Ilori - the right sort of signing and not as bad as people like to make out, but not exactly a clear success
Popa - utter waste of time and money, seemingly a bad attitude too
Oxford - rather pointless, but we've done ok with loanee PL defenders so ok cover
Grabban - mindless signing, woefully out of form and not played where actually suited
Mutch - oh look, it's a name we recognise from the PL must be good. Part of an appalling transfer strategy to recruit based on name and reputation.
Mannone - absolutely woeful signing. Average keeper, not in any sort of form at a huge cost. See above
Edwards - again, not as bad as people like to make out, but one of the reputation crowd
Bodvarsson - distinctly average, but did a job. The sort of striker you sign as back up or to fill a gap until your first/second/third choice is available. Shame we didn't have a plan to do that.
Bacuna - did ok, but attitude stank and hugely overpriced. Another big money failure from the policy of signing names on a downward spiral who weren't great on big money
Clement - reasonable punt should probably have got more chances
Aluko - the absolute epitome of our transfer policy at the time. Sign players with no idea how to use them, because of their name, towards the end of their career when they're in decline, pay massively over the odds and watch them be dog shit
Barrow - partial success, but another poorly scouted player bought on potential with no thought to attitude or application.

There's only really one huge flop in there, with the main issue with a lot of the rest cost vs value. But there's also at best only a few partial successes.

We've had worse signings than a lot of them, but we've very rarely had such a long list of signings with no one who excelled.


Pretty much agree with all those player assessments aside from Ilori

Although (as I'm assuming your huge flop is Aluko) - would add Popa to that list, wasn't it reported he was the second highest wage at the club behind Mannone?

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Snowflake Royal » 28 May 2021 12:26

I have an exceptionally low opinion of the owners and Gourlay. But I simply can't believe Popa was on more than Moore and our second biggest earner.

No one can be that thick.

If Popa was on big money, he's definitely a second awful signing, and far worse than even Aluko.

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by URZZZZ » 28 May 2021 12:30

Hound Actually made a bit of a profit on Bacuna which certainly improves that signing a bit

But yes a pretty dreadful set of signings that

Clement’s weren’t great either - what was it - Yiadom - yes very good, Meyler, Baldock. Anyone else? Last two prob cost a pretty big whack as well


Walker - pointless, wasn't awful and couldn't have been on high wages but just an unnecessary waste
Yiadom - decent signing, especially on a free
O'Shea - weird one - again, he wasn't awful on the pitch but wasn't needed - unless it was just a pathway to get him into coaching the next season
Meyler - could see the intention here actually - just didn't work
Eza - signed when it was clear Meyler wasn't up to it, looked fairly decent but then got injured
Sims - again, pointless, offered nothing
Baldock - read Meyler although offered more than he did
McNulty - bit of a gamble, didn't pay off - never really given the opportunities

Recruitment was, as you say, not great under Clement - although you could at least see the intention behind some of them, a bit of steel and experience added to the team in Meyler, Baldock and Yiadom. Negated to an extent by the signings of Walker and Sims - but most of these were either on a free or on lower wages (other than Baldock)

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Re: Rumour - Richards to Everton

by Basildon » 28 May 2021 12:43

Hound Actually made a bit of a profit on Bacuna which certainly improves that signing a bit

But yes a pretty dreadful set of signings that

Clement’s weren’t great either - what was it - Yiadom - yes very good, Meyler, Baldock. Anyone else? Last two prob cost a pretty big whack as well

McNulty came under Clement too. Not on huge wages I'd imagine but still not a great signing.

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