by Brogue » 30 Aug 2021 17:38
by SCIAG » 30 Aug 2021 17:42
BrogueSCIAGBrogue
Agreed, Cooper and dickie were better than Holmes at the same age.
Gonna take a big slice of "doubt" with that. Dickie would probably have made the grade if he'd been given a chance but he barely played any football for the club at any level for those last two years, unless you were watching him at Lincoln then I'm not sure how you'd be able to judge.
Cooper was a calamity at 21, clearly had talent but made one bad mistake every game. Even today he's pretty error prone.
Holmes to me looks significantly better than Cooper. Could understand unfavourable comparisons to Dom Hyam or Tom McIntyre, but not to Cooper. He made 30 starts for us last season and never looked out of place.
This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when teddy Howe left the club
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We’re going to lose Yiadom for at least a month next season (and let’s face it, he hasn’t exactly demanded selection even when fit this season). We have a young full back here who already looks comfortable at this level. Should we use him as cover for Yiadom, keep Gunter in our “prison” on much more money, or gamble on a new player unfamiliar with the club?
It’s a fairly trivial decision, Teddy Howe probably isn’t going to play for England, but it’s still an utterly bizarre decision and no amount of innuendo will change that.
by Snowflake Royal » 30 Aug 2021 17:43
NamelessSCIAGBrogue
Agreed, Cooper and dickie were better than Holmes at the same age.
Gonna take a big slice of "doubt" with that. Dickie would probably have made the grade if he'd been given a chance but he barely played any football for the club at any level for those last two years, unless you were watching him at Lincoln then I'm not sure how you'd be able to judge.
Cooper was a calamity at 21, clearly had talent but made one bad mistake every game. Even today he's pretty error prone.
Holmes to me looks significantly better than Cooper. Could understand unfavourable comparisons to Dom Hyam or Tom McIntyre, but not to Cooper. He made 30 starts for us last season and never looked out of place.
Holmes is a much better footballer than Cooper, perhaps because he's a fairly late convert to defence. Not sure what about Cooper would make him be considered better than Holmes at the same age. Holmes is versatile, comfortable on the ball, not prone to major errors and not much shorter than Cooper. Not got into his stride in terms of goals though
by Snowflake Royal » 30 Aug 2021 17:44
SCIAGBrogueSCIAG Gonna take a big slice of "doubt" with that. Dickie would probably have made the grade if he'd been given a chance but he barely played any football for the club at any level for those last two years, unless you were watching him at Lincoln then I'm not sure how you'd be able to judge.
Cooper was a calamity at 21, clearly had talent but made one bad mistake every game. Even today he's pretty error prone.
Holmes to me looks significantly better than Cooper. Could understand unfavourable comparisons to Dom Hyam or Tom McIntyre, but not to Cooper. He made 30 starts for us last season and never looked out of place.
This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when teddy Howe left the club
This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when we finished seventh
Strange that you think this constitutes "shitting the bed":[trimmed some dunks on WoodleyRoyal that aren't relevant]
We’re going to lose Yiadom for at least a month next season (and let’s face it, he hasn’t exactly demanded selection even when fit this season). We have a young full back here who already looks comfortable at this level. Should we use him as cover for Yiadom, keep Gunter in our “prison” on much more money, or gamble on a new player unfamiliar with the club?
It’s a fairly trivial decision, Teddy Howe probably isn’t going to play for England, but it’s still an utterly bizarre decision and no amount of innuendo will change that.
Hmm, I was right about Yiadom and we had to play a centre back at right back for much of the season. "Trivial but bizarre" is hardly throwing your toys out of the pram.
This forum business seems a bit too difficult for you. Perhaps TikTok would be more your speed?
by Sutekh » 30 Aug 2021 17:47
by Brogue » 30 Aug 2021 17:53
Snowflake RoyalSCIAGBrogue
This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when teddy Howe left the club
This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when we finished seventh
Strange that you think this constitutes "shitting the bed":[trimmed some dunks on WoodleyRoyal that aren't relevant]
We’re going to lose Yiadom for at least a month next season (and let’s face it, he hasn’t exactly demanded selection even when fit this season). We have a young full back here who already looks comfortable at this level. Should we use him as cover for Yiadom, keep Gunter in our “prison” on much more money, or gamble on a new player unfamiliar with the club?
It’s a fairly trivial decision, Teddy Howe probably isn’t going to play for England, but it’s still an utterly bizarre decision and no amount of innuendo will change that.
Hmm, I was right about Yiadom and we had to play a centre back at right back for much of the season. "Trivial but bizarre" is hardly throwing your toys out of the pram.
This forum business seems a bit too difficult for you. Perhaps TikTok would be more your speed?
Zing.
by Simon's Church » 30 Aug 2021 18:42
by genome » 30 Aug 2021 18:44
by Brogue » 30 Aug 2021 18:53
genome Remember when we were shite in 2011/12 and then we signed Gorkss
We're gonna win the league
by windermereROYAL » 30 Aug 2021 19:06
by Mid Sussex Royal » 30 Aug 2021 19:12
Broguegenome Remember when we were shite in 2011/12 and then we signed Gorkss
We're gonna win the league
It’s either going to go the way of gorkss or Martin keown
by Uke » 30 Aug 2021 19:18
He’s on the wane but he could easily do a job. Solid defender. Complete lack of pace & can’t pass for toffee but one of biggest reasons we stayed up originally under Pulis & in subsequent seasons. Might get you 5-6 goals/season, too. He goes with every Palace fan’s good wishes. Top professional, he’ll be great for the dressing room.
by SCIAG » 30 Aug 2021 19:23
BrogueSnowflake RoyalSCIAG This coming from the person who absolutely shit the bed when we finished seventh
Strange that you think this constitutes "shitting the bed":
Hmm, I was right about Yiadom and we had to play a centre back at right back for much of the season. "Trivial but bizarre" is hardly throwing your toys out of the pram.
This forum business seems a bit too difficult for you. Perhaps TikTok would be more your speed?
Zing.
I didn’t shit the bed because we finished 7th. I shit the bed because we were oxf*rd terrible for the second half of the season when things could have been very different if we had a decent manager at the helm. SCIAG has positioned himself as some sort of resident youth team oracle and seems to have this authoritarian view on everything academy related. Howe isn’t the first player he shit the bed over that we let go. He’s one of these posters who think academy players should stay with us forever and we should never ever let people go. I was simply agreeing that the jury is still out on Holmes making it, and used two players that were imo better than Holmes at the same age. But of course SCIAG thinks his opinion is superior to others on here
by Brogue » 30 Aug 2021 19:30
SCIAGBrogueSnowflake Royal
Zing.
I didn’t shit the bed because we finished 7th. I shit the bed because we were oxf*rd terrible for the second half of the season when things could have been very different if we had a decent manager at the helm. SCIAG has positioned himself as some sort of resident youth team oracle and seems to have this authoritarian view on everything academy related. Howe isn’t the first player he shit the bed over that we let go. He’s one of these posters who think academy players should stay with us forever and we should never ever let people go. I was simply agreeing that the jury is still out on Holmes making it, and used two players that were imo better than Holmes at the same age. But of course SCIAG thinks his opinion is superior to others on here
Everyone thinks their opinion is superior to others, otherwise they wouldn’t have them. Sorry if disagreement is so upsetting to you - again, might want to stay away from discussion boards!
If you watched Rob Dickie play when he was 21 and thought he was better than you think Holmes is now then by all means. But I don’t think you did. He only played one game for our U23s that season. Presumably you would already have said if you saw him play when he was on loan. Yeah, I think comparing Holmes to a player you never saw play is stupid. It would be like if I said I thought Morrison was better than Daniel Passarella.
It’s not hard to find examples of me saying that a player should be let go or doesn’t look up to it. Cooper is one such example: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=137458&p=4508353#p4508353
Went looking for what I said about Dickie leaving, and it turns out it wasn’t much. Did find this, which is a long way from how you’re portraying me:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=134724&p=4409122#p4409122
I’ve got no idea who you are (WoodleyRoyal?) but if you want to try throwing insults at people then get your facts straight first.
by CountryRoyal » 30 Aug 2021 19:38
genome Remember when we were shite in 2011/12 and then we signed Gorkss
We're gonna win the league
by linkenholtroyal » 30 Aug 2021 20:19
CountryRoyalgenome Remember when we were shite in 2011/12 and then we signed Gorkss
We're gonna win the league
I loved that team, so many technically average players who gave their absolute all every game and performed well as a TEAM. How this lot could do with a Leigertwood.
by Snowflake Royal » 30 Aug 2021 20:25
CountryRoyalgenome Remember when we were shite in 2011/12 and then we signed Gorkss
We're gonna win the league
I loved that team, so many technically average players who gave their absolute all every game and performed well as a TEAM. How this lot could do with a Leigertwood.
by SouthDownsRoyal » 30 Aug 2021 21:13
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