BFTG Brighton

[winchester_royal]

Was very tempted for this before they released the pricing.

£30 for a minimum 2hr trip on a Tuesday night and a half days holiday?

I don't get the love in with John, and following from comments about last night would like to see him dropped to the bench.

Or no time off work, left Basinsgtoke at 5, arrived at the park and ride 6.45, got back at 2, slept until 6.30, in work at 7.40, just got to deal with being tired! It does help it was only £22 for me though... And to be honest I only decided I was going on Monday.

But...why?

What reason would anyone have to go through all that effort/expense to watch what was always going to be a dire and meaningless game of football?

Judging people for having better things to do with their time/money than watch Reading Football Club is a little churlish.

[Will95]

Was very tempted for this before they released the pricing.

£30 for a minimum 2hr trip on a Tuesday night and a half days holiday?

I don't get the love in with John, and following from comments about last night would like to see him dropped to the bench.

Or no time off work, left Basinsgtoke at 5, arrived at the park and ride 6.45, got back at 2, slept until 6.30, in work at 7.40, just got to deal with being tired! It does help it was only £22 for me though... And to be honest I only decided I was going on Monday.

But...why?

What reason would anyone have to go through all that effort/expense to watch what was always going to be a dire and meaningless game of football?

Judging people for having better things to do with their time/money than watch Reading Football Club is a little churlish.

I wouldn't and wasn't judinging anyone for not being as stupid as I am, I was simply saying that it is easily feasible without a half day off work.

[Hoop Blah]

IF you work in Basingstoke AND finish by 5 o'clock. That will narrow it down quite considerably for Reading fans.

I know weren't having a pop at those not attending Will, and I can't get the fascination with attendances in general to be honest, just pointing out that for most Brighton on a Tuesday night will involve a bit more effort.

Anyway, back to the point about the rest of the season, these last 10 games are a great chance for players on the fringes to push their case for next season and we really should be trying to get every last bit of effort and improvement out of the squad for those games. Coppell always used to say the way you finish one season can have a big impact on the way you start the next.

I want to see McDermott get us playing with more gusto for these remaining games. We're effectively playing with little pressure now, or 2-0 football as he likes to call it, so now is the time to start building his way of playing and drilling the squad into the attitudes he wants to see when they come back.

If some of those loanees and players expecting to leave in the summer don't buy into that then let them train on their own and keep that attitude away from the rest of the squad.

[eleventh earl of mar]

Re Will95
Think it's time for some on here to take their head out of their arses if they think there's nothing to play for.
Defeat against Cardiff and a Rotherham win on Saturday would mean just a 5 point gap from the drop zone.
With 10 games still to play I suggest there's a shit load to play for!

Actually if MK Dons or Fulham lose as well as Reading the points gap would be 7 points if Rotherham win.

[genome]

Coppell always used to say the way you finish one season can have a big impact on the way you start the next.

Lost our last three games of 2004/5

[genome]

http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport ... _/?ref=rss

Strong words from the Captain.

[Top Flight]

IF you work in Basingstoke AND finish by 5 o'clock. That will narrow it down quite considerably for Reading fans.

I know weren't having a pop at those not attending Will, and I can't get the fascination with attendances in general to be honest, just pointing out that for most Brighton on a Tuesday night will involve a bit more effort.

Anyway, back to the point about the rest of the season, these last 10 games are a great chance for players on the fringes to push their case for next season and we really should be trying to get every last bit of effort and improvement out of the squad for those games. Coppell always used to say the way you finish one season can have a big impact on the way you start the next.

I want to see McDermott get us playing with more gusto for these remaining games. We're effectively playing with little pressure now, or 2-0 football as he likes to call it, so now is the time to start building his way of playing and drilling the squad into the attitudes he wants to see when they come back.

If some of those loanees and players expecting to leave in the summer don't buy into that then let them train on their own and keep that attitude away from the rest of the squad.

Absolutely. Leicester City are the perfect example of that.

Instead of letting Pardew try and get Coppell over to Crystal Palace in some capacity, we should be trying to get Coppell back at Reading in some capacity to work with McDermott, Reid, Hammond etc. Then we can really try and re-establish that Reading way which has brought so much success.

[paddy20]

Re Will95
Think it's time for some on here to take their head out of their arses if they think there's nothing to play for.
Defeat against Cardiff and a Rotherham win on Saturday would mean just a 5 point gap from the drop zone.
With 10 games still to play I suggest there's a shit load to play for!

+1 I think some on here are in danger going to sleep as the ship sinks.

[gdroyal]

Was at the game last night and can only really agree with what has already been said. Thought we were actually ok and thought we would have been deserving of a draw. However, it was so clear that every player in that team especially the midfield and forwards confidence levels are extremely low. So many times we would bring the ball forward, get the ball out to the wings in a promising position and then it is passed back to the full backs then the centre backs and momentum is lost. I think the whole team needs a rebuild and I think it is going to take at least a couple of seasons before we can challenge again. Personally I think Brian is the best man to build a spine to the team as long as the owners invest in permanent signings and let the football people (Brian, Hammond, Howe) make the decisions on signings rather than these foreign guys who we have never heard of and don't even speak English.

Finally, what a poor view from the away end. For £30 it was really hard to make out what was going on down the other end of the ground. Their park and ride system used to be really good but I left as the final whistle and still had to wait 25 mins for the bus. Probably didn't help that the ground was half empty at full time!

[gazzer, loyal royal]

Having seen the goal, it's a really piss poor bit of defending from Gunter. Why he thinks he needs to engage McShanes man and leave Wilson free is beyond me. It's those individual errors that are really costing us

[royalsroyalsroyals92]

IF you work in Basingstoke AND finish by 5 o'clock. That will narrow it down quite considerably for Reading fans.

I know weren't having a pop at those not attending Will, and I can't get the fascination with attendances in general to be honest, just pointing out that for most Brighton on a Tuesday night will involve a bit more effort.

Anyway, back to the point about the rest of the season, these last 10 games are a great chance for players on the fringes to push their case for next season and we really should be trying to get every last bit of effort and improvement out of the squad for those games. Coppell always used to say the way you finish one season can have a big impact on the way you start the next.

I want to see McDermott get us playing with more gusto for these remaining games. We're effectively playing with little pressure now, or 2-0 football as he likes to call it, so now is the time to start building his way of playing and drilling the squad into the attitudes he wants to see when they come back.

If some of those loanees and players expecting to leave in the summer don't buy into that then let them train on their own and keep that attitude away from the rest of the squad.

Absolutely. Leicester City are the perfect example of that.

Instead of letting Pardew try and get Coppell over to Crystal Palace in some capacity, we should be trying to get Coppell back at Reading in some capacity to work with McDermott, Reid, Hammond etc. Then we can really try and re-establish that Reading way which has brought so much success.

Although I do genuinely agree with getting the reading way back - I really wish there was a way we could do that without summoning the past! I do totally agree with you - It'd be great to get some of the old lot back, but the fact is a lot of them aren't working for a reason and the magic they had is probably gone, which is a shame. I was the perfect age and at the height of my football loving self during the 05/06 season, and it was perfect, but for a while the club hasn't felt the same at all!

A lot of it for me came down to a style of play that since that last 6 months with Coppell in charge, we lost a penetrating style of football where we could play with pace through the midfield and have tonnes of players in the box waiting to tuck it away. That went away, and the goals dropped an in my opinion its never felt quite the same. Even though we went up again, that still felt a lot like we were grinding out results!

Then even though I do think he did his best and was in a difficult position, it just seemed quite odd having someone like Adkins in charge of the team even though he had no affiliation with the club whatsoever. He could never quite win me round with that, and then lets not even start with 'i'm a premier league manager' Clarke. Prick.

Hopefully something's gotta give soon, but part of me feels we may need to hit rock bottom, or at least a relegation before somethings going to kick into gear!!

[Royal_jimmy]

IF you work in Basingstoke AND finish by 5 o'clock. That will narrow it down quite considerably for Reading fans.

I know weren't having a pop at those not attending Will, and I can't get the fascination with attendances in general to be honest, just pointing out that for most Brighton on a Tuesday night will involve a bit more effort.

Anyway, back to the point about the rest of the season, these last 10 games are a great chance for players on the fringes to push their case for next season and we really should be trying to get every last bit of effort and improvement out of the squad for those games. Coppell always used to say the way you finish one season can have a big impact on the way you start the next.

I want to see McDermott get us playing with more gusto for these remaining games. We're effectively playing with little pressure now, or 2-0 football as he likes to call it, so now is the time to start building his way of playing and drilling the squad into the attitudes he wants to see when they come back.

If some of those loanees and players expecting to leave in the summer don't buy into that then let them train on their own and keep that attitude away from the rest of the squad.

Absolutely. Leicester City are the perfect example of that.

Instead of letting Pardew try and get Coppell over to Crystal Palace in some capacity, we should be trying to get Coppell back at Reading in some capacity to work with McDermott, Reid, Hammond etc. Then we can really try and re-establish that Reading way which has brought so much success.

Although I do genuinely agree with getting the reading way back - I really wish there was a way we could do that without summoning the past! I do totally agree with you - It'd be great to get some of the old lot back, but the fact is a lot of them aren't working for a reason and the magic they had is probably gone, which is a shame. I was the perfect age and at the height of my football loving self during the 05/06 season, and it was perfect, but for a while the club hasn't felt the same at all!

A lot of it for me came down to a style of play that since that last 6 months with Coppell in charge, we lost a penetrating style of football where we could play with pace through the midfield and have tonnes of players in the box waiting to tuck it away. That went away, and the goals dropped an in my opinion its never felt quite the same. Even though we went up again, that still felt a lot like we were grinding out results!

Then even though I do think he did his best and was in a difficult position, it just seemed quite odd having someone like Adkins in charge of the team even though he had no affiliation with the club whatsoever. He could never quite win me round with that, and then lets not even start with 'i'm a premier league manager' Clarke. Prick.

Hopefully something's gotta give soon, but part of me feels we may need to hit rock bottom, or at least a relegation before somethings going to kick into gear!!

I agree with a lot of this. Our style of play has regressed since Coppell left. However; what does affiliation with the club have to do with anything? Coppell never played for us and he is arguably our best manager we've had. Pardew played for us for what 1 season? he was not with us long before he joined our coach and management set up. Certainly not long enough for me to think he was a great for us.

Fans should never let affiliation to a club in the past make them judge a manager.

I did not like Clarke much but I thought he was a decent tactician. He very nearly masterminded us to an FA cup final.

I think some of our fans need to give people who have not got an affiliation with the club more of a chance.

[Royal With Cheese]

When did Pardew play for us? I don't think he played a first team game. Was it for the reserves?

[Hoop Blah]

When did Pardew play for us? I don't think he played a first team game. Was it for the reserves?

He didn't really play for us, as far as I can remember anyway.

He came here from Barnet with Bullivant, as manager of the Reserves, but I think he must of registered as a player as well but I don't think he ever played.

Hardly counts as a player even if he did. I like the way he, to an extent, came through the ranks to be manager though.

[John Smith]

Was at the game last night and can only really agree with what has already been said. Thought we were actually ok and thought we would have been deserving of a draw. However, it was so clear that every player in that team especially the midfield and forwards confidence levels are extremely low. So many times we would bring the ball forward, get the ball out to the wings in a promising position and then it is passed back to the full backs then the centre backs and momentum is lost. I think the whole team needs a rebuild and I think it is going to take at least a couple of seasons before we can challenge again. Personally I think Brian is the best man to build a spine to the team as long as the owners invest in permanent signings and let the football people (Brian, Hammond, Howe) make the decisions on signings rather than these foreign guys who we have never heard of and don't even speak English.

Finally, what a poor view from the away end. For £30 it was really hard to make out what was going on down the other end of the ground. Their park and ride system used to be really good but I left as the final whistle and still had to wait 25 mins for the bus. Probably didn't help that the ground was half empty at full time!

I agree with most of this. It was like watching Arsenal - overdoing it in the final third (Vydra the guilty party) when he should have just hit the thing. When he did, keeper spilt it Hector.

I think some of our fans need to give people who have not got an affiliation with the club more of a chance.

True. I think prior to the first Prem season there weren't really any iconic legends associated with the club. You couldn't really name many players that had gone on to bigger and better things bar Shaka really.

[Hoop Blah]

True. I think prior to the first Prem season there weren't really any iconic legends associated with the club. You couldn't really name many players that had gone on to bigger and better things bar Shaka really.

You're on a wind up surely?

[Top Flight]

Absolutely. Leicester City are the perfect example of that.

Instead of letting Pardew try and get Coppell over to Crystal Palace in some capacity, we should be trying to get Coppell back at Reading in some capacity to work with McDermott, Reid, Hammond etc. Then we can really try and re-establish that Reading way which has brought so much success.

Although I do genuinely agree with getting the reading way back - I really wish there was a way we could do that without summoning the past! I do totally agree with you - It'd be great to get some of the old lot back, but the fact is a lot of them aren't working for a reason and the magic they had is probably gone, which is a shame. I was the perfect age and at the height of my football loving self during the 05/06 season, and it was perfect, but for a while the club hasn't felt the same at all!

A lot of it for me came down to a style of play that since that last 6 months with Coppell in charge, we lost a penetrating style of football where we could play with pace through the midfield and have tonnes of players in the box waiting to tuck it away. That went away, and the goals dropped an in my opinion its never felt quite the same. Even though we went up again, that still felt a lot like we were grinding out results!

Then even though I do think he did his best and was in a difficult position, it just seemed quite odd having someone like Adkins in charge of the team even though he had no affiliation with the club whatsoever. He could never quite win me round with that, and then lets not even start with 'i'm a premier league manager' Clarke. Prick.

Hopefully something's gotta give soon, but part of me feels we may need to hit rock bottom, or at least a relegation before somethings going to kick into gear!!

I agree with a lot of this. Our style of play has regressed since Coppell left. However; what does affiliation with the club have to do with anything? Coppell never played for us and he is arguably our best manager we've had. Pardew played for us for what 1 season? he was not with us long before he joined our coach and management set up. Certainly not long enough for me to think he was a great for us.

Fans should never let affiliation to a club in the past make them judge a manager.

I did not like Clarke much but I thought he was a decent tactician. He very nearly masterminded us to an FA cup final.

I think some of our fans need to give people who have not got an affiliation with the club more of a chance.

I think we as fans will give anybody who is our manager a chance. I was happy to forgive Clark for his flirtation with Fulham. I wasn't calling for his head.

Mark McGhee had no affiliation with us before he joined and was a great manager and the same with Coppell.
Pardew had some affiliation after working his way through the club and McDermott and Rodgers had a lot of affiliation. Quinn and Gooding had great affiliation with the club when given the management duties.

We've had mixed results with the affiliated and the same with the non affiliated.

Of the non affiliated McGhee and Coppell were resounding success stories and Adkins and Clark were abject failures.

We have to support who ever is the manager and give them the necessary time to do the job.

Coppell, McGhee, McDermott and Pardew who were all successful managers with us needed time and alot of it before success was bestowed upon our great club.

Let's enjoy the next few years and watch McDermott slowly put the pieces together of our next great Reading side.

[3points]

turned down a free ticket from a Birghton supporting friend as I was working in London and couldn't figure out a realistic way to gte back to Reading on public transport. However, he said we deserved a 1-1 draw and thought we played reasonably well. Surprised we are as low in the table as we are. It's just been a mightily frustrating season, where Nick Blackman's purple patch covered over a fundamentally flawed squad of individuals who don;t gel as a team

[Top Flight]

I think we were all at the height of our optimisim at half-time at Craven Cottage.

What an amazing feeling that was to be 1-0 up at half-time. We were totally in control of that game, had played Fulham off the pitch. You just could not imagine the collapse that was about to come. Unbelievable. After the game, we all thought the collapse would be isolated to just that one 10 minute period of madness. We had no idea it was the end of our season.