Should BR stay?

[Hoop Blah]

Don't talk rubbish. We only lost 6 or 7 players.

Only?

They were all players that were key members of the squad though.

Hahnemann, Murty*, Rosenoir, Duberry, Bikey, Hunt, Harper, Doyle, Lita** plus the two loanee's Kitson, and to a lesser extent Little.

* He may not've playing but his character was integral to the squads performance.
** Having lost your first choice front two (inc Kitson in that) losing your 3rd choice is then pretty important.

We also lost the back up players from the squad that may well have been the ones ready to carry on the ethos of the previous team, although maybe not as good in quality, they'd been around the mentality etc.

[Royal Lady]

If only we'd kept Daniel Spence.

[Thaumagurist*]

Ian didn't specify what type of players we lost, so I have to read it as all players that we have lost. back at ya.

[russyb]

The main issue we have is the amount of goals we concede, the defence needs to be miles better, currently not mobile enough and decision making is awful sometimes this is the area that needs attention. Going forwards i think we are creating enough chances and things should change with return of injured and suspended players, plus new striker in Jan. I see no reason for BR to leave just yet as i honestly have seen improvement in recent weeks, not quite there yet but not far away.

[Ian Royal]

Ian didn't specify what type of players we lost, so I have to read it as all players that we have lost. back at ya.

I thought that most people capable of typing and therefore posting on here would understand I was talking about players from the first team squad. I apologise that I appear to have overrated your IQ by about 50 points.

Hoop Blah:
Only significant losses to our playing side:

Hahnemann, Rosenior, Duberry, Bikey, Hunt, Doyle, Harper.

Lita barely played and contributed nothing. Murty barely played and contributed nothing more than his role of club captain, which has nothing to do with the outrageously stupid statement that Rodgers' best 10 players are worse than Coppell's worst.

Kitson and Little were loanees who contributed very little. Also plenty of those players that left went out on Rodgers' watch so he takes responsibility for them going and his efforts (or lack thereof) to replace them.

You back up your statement with some comparisons of Rodgers's best 10 and Coppell's worst rather than just making some ridiculous sweeping statement.

[Thaumagurist*]

Ian didn't specify what type of players we lost, so I have to read it as all players that we have lost. back at ya.

I thought that most people capable of typing and therefore posting on here would understand I was talking about players from the first team squad. I apologise that I appear to have overrated your IQ by about 50 points.

Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill the oxf*rd out. I was only making a joking response to Royal Lady.

[Hoop Blah]

It was obviously a bit of an exageration Ian you muppet!

I don't see why you should discount Kitson from being a key player from the back end of last season. He basically played the last dozen games of the season, and if we'd managed to go up he'd be in our squad today.

Essentially my point is that we're now playing players on a regular basis that couldn't get a sniff of a regular first team place last season under Coppell. The standard of our players has dropped significantly and that is key to why Rodgers team has struggled to win points so far this season.

The first couple of months of the season was a massive learning experience, for the players, the manager and by the sounds of it plenty of the fans too.

[Focher]

Hoop Blah:
Only significant losses to our playing side:

Duberry

[Hoop Blah]

Hoop Blah:
Only significant losses to our playing side:

Duberry

He started over half our league games and kept the likes of the current two centre backs and Bikey out of the team at time. That's a pretty significant, if even only in Coppells eyes.

[Focher]

Hoop Blah:
Only significant losses to our playing side:

Duberry

He started over half our league games and kept the likes of the current two centre backs and Bikey out of the team at time. That's a pretty significant, if even only in Coppells eyes.

You fail to mention that it was when Duberry came into the team that our horrific run ensued.

[Hoop Blah]

Maybe so, but he was still first choice for long periods of last season, rightly or wrongly, and without wanting to go into another long debate about it, I don't think his presence made a hell of a lot of difference to our ability to create or score goals at the other end of the pitch.

[weybridgewanderer]

You fail to mention that it was when Duberry came into the team that our horrific run ensued.

why do you think that? without looking too hard I find

december 1st, home to coventry

"Reading: Hahnemann, Rosenior, Ingimarsson, Duberry, Armstrong, Kebe (Henry 85), Harper, Cisse (Gunnarsson 77), Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 74). Subs Not Used: Federici, Matejovsky."

december 20th, away win at brum

"Reading: Federici, Rosenior, Duberry, Ingimarsson, Armstrong, Henry (Gunnarsson 75), Cisse, Harper, Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 27). Subs Not Used: Andersen, Matejovsky, Bikey.

well before the horrific run ensued

[Focher]

You fail to mention that it was when Duberry came into the team that our horrific run ensued.

why do you think that? without looking too hard I find

december 1st, home to coventry

"Reading: Hahnemann, Rosenior, Ingimarsson, Duberry, Armstrong, Kebe (Henry 85), Harper, Cisse (Gunnarsson 77), Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 74). Subs Not Used: Federici, Matejovsky."

december 20th, away win at brum

"Reading: Federici, Rosenior, Duberry, Ingimarsson, Armstrong, Henry (Gunnarsson 75), Cisse, Harper, Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 27). Subs Not Used: Andersen, Matejovsky, Bikey.

well before the horrific run ensued

i apologise for being about a month out then

[weybridgewanderer]

You fail to mention that it was when Duberry came into the team that our horrific run ensued.

why do you think that? without looking too hard I find

december 1st, home to coventry

"Reading: Hahnemann, Rosenior, Ingimarsson, Duberry, Armstrong, Kebe (Henry 85), Harper, Cisse (Gunnarsson 77), Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 74). Subs Not Used: Federici, Matejovsky."

december 20th, away win at brum

"Reading: Federici, Rosenior, Duberry, Ingimarsson, Armstrong, Henry (Gunnarsson 75), Cisse, Harper, Stephen Hunt, Doyle, Noel Hunt (Long 27). Subs Not Used: Andersen, Matejovsky, Bikey.

well before the horrific run ensued

i apologise for being about a month out then

I think you'll find the difference in February was that Pearce replace Ingi

[Hoop Blah]

As I've said before, I actually think the bad run started long before the bad results. Our forwards hot form in Oct/Nov and probably December papered over the cracks of some pretty average performances.

If it makes Focher feel and better Duberry's inclusion may have been the catalyst for the downturn post new year, but I really doubt it. It still doesn't change the fact that he was a key player last season and is nolonger with the club.

[Focher]

As I've said before, I actually think the bad run started long before the bad results. Our forwards hot form in Oct/Nov and probably December papered over the cracks of some pretty average performances.

If it makes Focher feel and better Duberry's inclusion may have been the catalyst for the downturn post new year, but I really doubt it. It still doesn't change the fact that he was a key player last season and is nolonger with the club.

i think of a 'key' player to be a good one, Im afraid Doobs is not that. Petty i know

[SLAMMED]

I'm still undecided. But each game, my answer is sliding closer to no.

[Focher]

getting back to the point, i think the Jan transfer window will be the making of Rodgers. I can see him getting some good players in and us having a good 2nd half to the season.

[Royal Lady]

getting back to the point, i think the Jan transfer window will be the making of Rodgers. I can see him getting some good players in and us having a good 2nd half to the season.

Whatever it is you're on, can I have some?

Where's the money going to come from and who do you think will want to come here?

[Hoop Blah]

I agree Focher, Rodgers needs a good January window.

Having the new forward in on loan means we get the chance to suss out if he's good enough and fit enough before making it a permanent, and at the same time the wage budget won't have been committed long term and so there may well be room for another forward.

We should hopefully see a couple leave at the same time. Mooney sounds like he'll be off, and you never know we might get rid of one of the non playing midfielders.

There's no doubt Rodgers needs the window to be a success, and if it isn't then we're in even more trouble!