Rival Watch

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Stoke City battling against P&S rules. Sold their stadium for £70m, that's £33m more than we sold the Madejski for (and it's in Stoke!!!!)

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmid ... 2022_Daily

It only matters though if this is an inflated price, granted it probably is. Their ground holds significantly more than what ours does, although I'm not sure how you'd value a stadium personally.

On the face of it, it looks as if it may catch them out.

[morganb]

Their ground holds significantly more than what ours does, although I'm not sure how you'd value a stadium personally.

Apparently it's not the size of the stadium but what you do with it that counts...

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Their ground holds significantly more than what ours does, although I'm not sure how you'd value a stadium personally.

Apparently it's not the size of the stadium but what you do with it that counts...

God knows what they do with it then for it to be worth £70m.

[Snowflake Royal]

Their ground holds significantly more than what ours does, although I'm not sure how you'd value a stadium personally.

Apparently it's not the size of the stadium but what you do with it that counts...

Winning in it occasionally helps.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Barnsley are winning

Brilliant

[Zip]

The noose is tightening. We are the worst team in the division this year. Utterly hopeless.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

We deserve to go down for being so poorly run.

[Zip]

We deserve to go down for being so poorly run.

Yep. Yongge is proving to be a disaster. Appointment after appointment of managers with zero track record in the Championship.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Barnsley two up and Derby winning

[YorkshireRoyal99]

We deserve to go down for being so poorly run.

Yep. Yongge is proving to be a disaster. Appointment after appointment of managers with zero track record in the Championship.

It's not actually appointing managers from abroad that I've got an issue with, it can work, it's more that we have no clear plan to anything that we do. That's why I was keen on Pauno, he seemed like someone who would fit the profile of the club on the surface, that didn't work ultimately for reasons beyond just himself.

But that doesn't take away that every appointment has been strange, even in the case of Pauno where it seemed "ok", it was done about a week before the season starts. So if it isn't strange, it's timed strangely. Until the 50+1 rule comes in where we can actually take control of the future of the club with some investment elsewhere, we won't do anything.

[Zip]

We deserve to go down for being so poorly run.

Yep. Yongge is proving to be a disaster. Appointment after appointment of managers with zero track record in the Championship.

It's not actually appointing managers from abroad that I've got an issue with, it can work, it's more that we have no clear plan to anything that we do. That's why I was keen on Pauno, he seemed like someone who would fit the profile of the club on the surface, that didn't work ultimately for reasons beyond just himself.

But that doesn't take away that every appointment has been strange, even in the case of Pauno where it seemed "ok", it was done about a week before the season starts. So if it isn't strange, it's timed strangely. Until the 50+1 rule comes in where we can actually take control of the future of the club with some investment elsewhere, we won't do anything.

I don’t care where the manager comes from as long as they have some success at this level. Why the hell go for Ince? Who made that call?

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Ince made no sense to me. I was optimistic it could work, I don't mind his interviews in fairness, win or lose, and I thought he had a point to prove so it could have worked well with the team having a point to prove. All we've gone to prove is that we are incompetent, as are the players, as are the people at the top of the club.

I did think we needed some knowledge at this level given our situation and we are paying the price for that.

[Hound]

Derby 3-1 down

Obvs good for us but annoying theyve played Blackburn back into form

[windermereROYAL]

Derby are shit on the road, would be 8 defeats on the bounce if we didn`t fold against them.

[windermereROYAL]

Barnsley away to Sheffield united kicking off 12.30 Saturday, in theory we could be bottom 3 when our game starts.

[3points]

Stoke City battling against P&S rules. Sold their stadium for £70m, that's £33m more than we sold the Madejski for (and it's in Stoke!!!!)

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmid ... 2022_Daily

It only matters though if this is an inflated price, granted it probably is. Their ground holds significantly more than what ours does, although I'm not sure how you'd value a stadium personally.

On the face of it, it looks as if it may catch them out.

A stadium is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. I was heavily involved in the Ricoh Stadium sale to the owner of Wasps RFC. The owner of the football club thought they would pick up the stadium for a cut price deal as they thought they were “the only game in town”. But they were outmanoeuvred by Wasps’ owner, who stepped in and bought it from the council (who had bailed it out previously). The deal was about £20m plus an option to buy & develop the land around the stadium afterwards.

Wasps then used the stadium to underpin a refinancing through a retail bond, worth nearly £50m, which then drove SISU (the owner of CCFC) apoplectic who took the council to court for selling the stadium at an undervalue. I understand it may be refinanced again, but for significantly less than £50m.

Stadia are not usually assets that can be multifunctional- the Ricoh was a strange example as Wasps wanted to relocate from London. But that was driven by the fact they thought they could make money by later developing the surrounding land (which I don’t think has ever happened). You see in sometimes in the US when a sports franchise moves between cities and then the remaining stadium becomes defunct and often gets demolished as there really is no alternative use. With the SCL what is the site worth without the stadium on it? This question is hard to answer given the surrounding land has already been sold off to the Thais so to maximise value the Thais would also need to sell their land too

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Barnsley away to Sheffield united kicking off 12.30 Saturday, in theory we could be bottom 3 when our game starts.

Well yes, quite

[Snowflake Royal]

The noose is tightening. We are the worst team in the division this year. Utterly hopeless.

This is objectively not even close to true.


Edit: this year.. I guess that may be true, though not sure. But seasons aren’t played over two and a half months.

[Silver Fox]

Barnsley away to Sheffield united kicking off 12.30 Saturday, in theory we could be bottom 3 when our game starts.

Or we could be 2 points clear with a game in hand

[tidus_mi2]

Barnsley away to Sheffield united kicking off 12.30 Saturday, in theory we could be bottom 3 when our game starts.

Or we could be 2 points clear with a game in hand

Probably the more likely scenario considering Sheffield United's home form vs Barnsley's away form