Rival Watch

[Mid Sussex Royal]

When Derby first got into trouble I had every sympathy for them, but in the months since then that as completely gone with the entire media circus creaming themselves at the prospect of fatty and his club getting out of it, it`s fcuking obscene to be supporting a club that blatantly cheated, they should be ashamed of themselves,
I hope they go to the wall.

I agree, BBC in particular. Their match reports since Christmas, from teh odd game I've seen on Sky have been so biased

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have, but like what other people have said many times, they've had ample opportunity to sell their assets to help raise funds for the club. Yes, it may have made them less competitive this season, but that shouldn't have been the priority.

Unless there would not be enough money made to compensate from the lost revenue streams from going down to League One, I can't think of another reason why they wouldn't have taken a good few million for some assets in January and then just moving forward with the money.

I do hope they find a suitable buyer for the club, but I hope it comes after they are relegated this season.

[Stranded]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have, but like what other people have said many times, they've had ample opportunity to sell their assets to help raise funds for the club. Yes, it may have made them less competitive this season, but that shouldn't have been the priority.

Unless there would not be enough money made to compensate from the lost revenue streams from going down to League One, I can't think of another reason why they wouldn't have taken a good few million for some assets in January and then just moving forward with the money.

I do hope they find a suitable buyer for the club, but I hope it comes after they are relegated this season.

I think for the admins keeping them competitive was a priority. They have 3 players under contract after the season and for any potential buyer being in the Champ is likely a must.

I can still see them being bought but starting next year in L1 with minus 15.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have, but like what other people have said many times, they've had ample opportunity to sell their assets to help raise funds for the club. Yes, it may have made them less competitive this season, but that shouldn't have been the priority.

Unless there would not be enough money made to compensate from the lost revenue streams from going down to League One, I can't think of another reason why they wouldn't have taken a good few million for some assets in January and then just moving forward with the money.

I do hope they find a suitable buyer for the club, but I hope it comes after they are relegated this season.

I think for the admins keeping them competitive was a priority. They have 3 players under contract after the season and for any potential buyer being in the Champ is likely a must.

I can still see them being bought but starting next year in L1 with minus 15.

They were docked 21 points this season though, the chances of them staying up from that were always going to be pretty slim.

I know they have got close to be fair to them about a month or so ago, but looking back in December time, ish, they were nowhere near and the administrators, buyers and even the club in general will have been preparing for life in League One. I think any buyer will have been buying the club expecting that they will be in League One next season as well.

[Stranded]

Don't disagree but in Dec/Jan, they picked up 14pts from 8 games. They were on a roll and there was a view they were almost favourite to stay up as they had momentum. So I get why they would focus on selling youth.

Since then of course they've only taken 10 from 11 games, so selling a couple of bigger assets would likely have made little difference and now they have lost a lot of youth talent making a rebuild more difficult.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Which is true but then it was about looking at if it was sustainable or not. I think what needed to be determined was that would selling assets in January be able to compensate for the loss of revenue from a drop in divisions and then how long that money would last for.

[Snowflake Royal]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have, but like what other people have said many times, they've had ample opportunity to sell their assets to help raise funds for the club. Yes, it may have made them less competitive this season, but that shouldn't have been the priority.

Unless there would not be enough money made to compensate from the lost revenue streams from going down to League One, I can't think of another reason why they wouldn't have taken a good few million for some assets in January and then just moving forward with the money.

I do hope they find a suitable buyer for the club, but I hope it comes after they are relegated this season.

I wonder whether their little flirt with survival and our total collapse has led them to make the wrong decision.

I could see them thinking that if they hold onto their assets and survive the season they become more attractive, retain revenue etc and can then sell assets.

Instead they're going down anyway and utterly fooked.

[windermereROYAL]

You lot are talking like fat boys lot are already relegated, i like to think that is true but there is a little way to go yet. if we win our game in hand then yes they probably are.

[Hound]

You lot are talking like fat boys lot are already relegated, i like to think that is true but there is a little way to go yet. if we win our game in hand then yes they probably are.

Of course they could stay up, but would say we’ve a considerably better squad, Barnsley on better form and even Peterborough may have more belief at the moment. Plus the big points gap

Have a feeling they may crumble altogether and finish bottom

[Snowflake Royal]

You lot are talking like fat boys lot are already relegated, i like to think that is true but there is a little way to go yet. if we win our game in hand then yes they probably are.

It's not mathematically done, but they are the least likely to survive currently.

They're bottom, from more games, and have worse recent form than anyone they are competing with.

They've got to win most of their games and have us lose most of ours to finish above us. And hope the other two lose most of theirs too.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have, but like what other people have said many times, they've had ample opportunity to sell their assets to help raise funds for the club. Yes, it may have made them less competitive this season, but that shouldn't have been the priority.

Unless there would not be enough money made to compensate from the lost revenue streams from going down to League One, I can't think of another reason why they wouldn't have taken a good few million for some assets in January and then just moving forward with the money.

I do hope they find a suitable buyer for the club, but I hope it comes after they are relegated this season.

I wonder whether their little flirt with survival and our total collapse has led them to make the wrong decision.

I could see them thinking that if they hold onto their assets and survive the season they become more attractive, retain revenue etc and can then sell assets.

Instead they're going down anyway and utterly fooked.

I could understand why they would believe they could stay up given where they were around January time and seemingly improving. But again, that was a gamble within itself whereas taking capital for assets sold wouldn't be as much a gamble because it's a way to bring in revenue which may have been able to see them through until, say, the end of the calendar year at worst, for example.

Given that the last 3/4 years of the clubs existence has been based on financial gambles, you'd have thought they might not have seemingly done the same now as well.

[Weymouth Royal]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have...

I feel for their fans, but I don't care for the club at all. They haven't just accidently over-spent; they've blatantly cheated, tried to cover it up, cooked and cooked the books some more. They absolutely deserve every points deduction they've had and that may be coming to them. If there was any justice behind the inconsistent nonsense P&S rules, Derby would be removed from the Football League.

[Snowflake Royal]

I don't even feel that much for the fans.

They can have a right old time blasting through non-league with a phoenix club and be back in L2 maybe L1 in about 10 years.

Fan owned. Run sustainably.

[South Coast Royal]

I don't even feel that much for the fans.

They can have a right old time blasting through non-league with a phoenix club and be back in L2 maybe L1 in about 10 years.

Fan owned. Run sustainably.

That could be the case Ian, much in the way that Rangers did in Scotland to end up as Champions.

Derby probably won't ever (at least for the foreseeable) be Premier League winners and the top side in the country again but I tend to agree with the other poster that the fans are innocent in all of this, much in the way that I feel no guilt over what our owners did.
It should be the owners to be hit hardest, not the employees and not the 30,000 or so of regular fans who support their club every week.

The fans aren't corrupt or greedy, it is the few involved in ownership with their own agenda that I feel have to be hit with consequences.

[Snowflake Royal]

Balls, they've defended the club and not taken issue with its spending.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I do think it's unfortunate that Derby have got into the situation they have...

I feel for their fans, but I don't care for the club at all. They haven't just accidently over-spent; they've blatantly cheated, tried to cover it up, cooked and cooked the books some more. They absolutely deserve every points deduction they've had and that may be coming to them. If there was any justice behind the inconsistent nonsense P&S rules, Derby would be removed from the Football League.

That's the fault of the irresponsible decision-makers at the club though. That's not necessarily down to the fans, tea lady, stewards, coaches, physio's etc. These are the people who really suffer. Yes, physio's and such will get other jobs and other professional clubs on top dollar wages but a tea lady, who supports the club for generations, might not do. That's where my sympathy lies.

[South Coast Royal]

Balls, they've defended the club and not taken issue with its spending.

My mate who I play golf with every week hasn't defended the club nor any other fans that he knows.
Theirs is a feeling of disappointment and anger at the owners and the board.

Have we defended our owners and cried about our points deduction?
No.
We serfs just get what we are given, it's the way the professional game works even if there are signs of changes ahead within the game.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think you're a few decades behind the world.

[Hound]

Didn’t follow things that closely but it must have been pretty obvious some dodgy stuff was going on when they were constantly buying players, not filing accounts and selling their stadium for an obscenely overblown sum

With us, and just scanning various message boards etc, we gambled, failed and accepted the beats. Haven’t seen a single whinge from our fans about the deduction. We did wrong and accepted the punishment we knew we were getting. And other fans seem to respect that to an extent

[Snowflake Royal]

Balls, they've defended the club and not taken issue with its spending.

My mate who I play golf with every week hasn't defended the club nor any other fans that he knows.
Theirs is a feeling of disappointment and anger at the owners and the board.

Have we defended our owners and cried about our points deduction?
No.
We serfs just get what we are given, it's the way the professional game works even if there are signs of changes ahead within the game.

Yeah, loads have defended our owners and welcomed their bullshit.

Like, literally a few weeks ago there were people defending them saying they've done a good job, saved us and its all the managers' fault.