Dellor moaning about Vydra again!!!

[Top Flight]

Absolutely! McDermott is a great manager. He'll get us right in due course.

It's a shame that he has to work under such a cloud of negativity and pessimism. If Dellor understood anything about football then he would know that it takes several years to build a successful team. Knee jerk decision making which we have been on the receiving end of a lot in the last few years since Madejski relinquished his ownership takes the club backwards.

Coppell's success was built on 3 years of Coppell and 3 years before him of Pardew of gradual building before the great success. Shane Long took several years to become the great player that he was. Nicky Shorey needed a few years, Murty the same, Sidwell the same, Harper the same. They weren't instantly amazing. Michael Antonio has taken 6 or 7 years to reach the standard that he is currently playing at today. Dellor's lack of understanding is really sad and very unhelpful. He should support the club properly rather than encourage short-term knee jerk decisions that get us nowhere.

Vydra will develop into an outstanding player. It would be nice if he became that great player with us.

Dellor was far too vocal in calling for Clarke's dismissal earlier in the season and he is far too critical of players who need patience, understanding and support. He stirs up a bad atmosphere and feeling between the club and it's local radio that should be behind the club and he also drives bad feeling between the players and the fans by providing a pathetic platform for the most stupid, knee jerk tweets and comments that are made in the heat of the moment when everyone is frustrated.

[sandman]

It's a tough to answer if Vydra has been a flop? On one hand you look at the goal return, which for a player of his quality is low. However, in terms of team ethic and work rate he is second to none, in fact I think if Blackman had these attributes he would a be Premier League player. You don't become a bad player overnight, sometimes it just doesn't fall for you.

Ultimately if he wasn't get in positions to score you would question his desire and commitment, but this simply isn't the case. I don't see anyone moaning about the free header Cox missed.

If anyone wants to question his desire look at the game against Bristol City (I think) where he ran 50 yards made a sliding tackle and we scored from it. However saying that - based on stats, I certainly wouldn't be clambering for Reading to make his move permanent.

It's not tough to answer at all! He has been a total and utter failure.

Do you know why he had to run 50 yards and make a sliding tackle in that Bristol City game? It's because he lost the ball in the first place.

[Top Flight]

Jeez....... You are something else Sandman.

Do you not at all appreciate those values of hard work, tracking back, chasing after lost causes, winning the ball back when you have just lost it?

[sandman]

Of course, that's why I've always preferred Strikers like Forster, Kitson and Doyle over goal hangers like Cureton and Le Fondre.

Do you not appreciate that Vydra was brought here as a proven Championship striker who we wanted to score the goals to win us promotion to the Premier League? He's failed abysmally at doing that and is rightfully getting criticised.

Wish you'd stop all this namby pamby love and understanding for a player that won't be here next year. The likes of Kermogant and Rakelss need the support and patience that Brian is giving Vydra because they are the ones we are going to benefit from next season.

[P!ssed Off]

Jeez....... You are something else Sandman.

Do you not at all appreciate those values of hard work, tracking back, chasing after lost causes, winning the ball back when you have just lost it?

That's a bonus attribute.
As is being a lovely bloke.

[P!ssed Off]

As I feel a bit lazy today I'm just going to copy and paste this:-

Reading's 1-0 win at Bolton meant the Royals are mathematically assured of their place in the Championship next season.

BBC Radio Berkshire reporter Tim Dellor asked boss Brian McDermott about the poor form of striker Matej Vydra following the game, after the on-loan Watford man missed a penalty in the match.

The Czech is goalless in the Championship since 28 November but it's fair to say Dellor and McDermott see his contribution a little differently to one another.

Here's the transcript of their exchange on the subject:

Tim Dellor: "It's an interesting spin because any way you look at it Vydra has not scored for you in the Championship yet. If you look at the number of points that are won by Reading when he is on the pitch it is incredible the disparity between when he is on the pitch and off the pitch. I think quite a lot of people, including myself, are surprised you keep picking him each week."

Brian McDermott: "Well there you go. Life is full of surprises, Tim."

TD: "It is. Are you not concerned about his complete lack of form in front of goal? I mean his misses today were unbelievable."

BM: "I think you're being really quite harsh on him."

TD: "I have no doubt I'm being harsh on him but..."

BM: "No, I actually think he is working his socks off for the team and I am asking him to work his socks off. He has had opportunities and he has not scored today but there's no way in a million years I'm going to make comments about Matej Vydra that are detrimental to him. He's a great lad, he works his socks off, I see him every day in training so... I am never going to single anybody out like that because it's just wrong in my opinion."

TD: "For you because you are the coach..."

BM: "No, it's just totally wrong."

TD: "Not wrong from me though because I'm just trying..."

BM: "No Tim, you can ask whatever question you like and I have to answer it. You are entitled to ask whatever question you like but I have got so much respect for Matej Vydra."

Excellent management from McDermott there. Good to see Tim put in his place for pushing his personal agenda.

Favouring an incompetent employee because they're a 'lovely guy' is bad enough.
But announcing to the public that that is what you're doing is not my idea of good management.

[Top Flight]

Those are qualities that win matches. And Vydra has been winning us matches.

[P!ssed Off]

Those are qualities that win matches. And Vydra has been winning us matches.

You are absolutely mad.

[Victor Meldrew]

Absolutely! McDermott is a great manager. He'll get us right in due course.

It's a shame that he has to work under such a cloud of negativity and pessimism. If Dellor understood anything about football then he would know that it takes several years to build a successful team. Knee jerk decision making which we have been on the receiving end of a lot in the last few years since Madejski relinquished his ownership takes the club backwards.

Coppell's success was built on 3 years of Coppell and 3 years before him of Pardew of gradual building before the great success. Shane Long took several years to become the great player that he was. Nicky Shorey needed a few years, Murty the same, Sidwell the same, Harper the same. They weren't instantly amazing. Michael Antonio has taken 6 or 7 years to reach the standard that he is currently playing at today. Dellor's lack of understanding is really sad and very unhelpful. He should support the club properly rather than encourage short-term knee jerk decisions that get us nowhere.

Vydra will develop into an outstanding player. It would be nice if he became that great player with us.

Dellor was far too vocal in calling for Clarke's dismissal earlier in the season and he is far too critical of players who need patience, understanding and support. He stirs up a bad atmosphere and feeling between the club and it's local radio that should be behind the club and he also drives bad feeling between the players and the fans by providing a pathetic platform for the most stupid, knee jerk tweets and comments that are made in the heat of the moment when everyone is frustrated.

I think you have forgotten what Vydra has been doing for the past 2 or 3 years.
He had one great season with Watford.
He then couldn't follow that up with Watford so they let him go to West Brom.
He then fails miserably at West Brom and then goes back to Watford.
Watford then willingly take £2.5 million off us and frankly he has been a failure at Reading.

He may well turn out to be the "great" player that you expect him to be but he may not.
I was hoping that we would get the Vydra of the first Watford season but sadly that hasn't happened.
The Reading players that you quoted went on an upward spiral over time whereas Vydra has been on a downward spiral so time may not make him better as it did with those others.

As for your feeling that Radio Berks should be "behind the club"-didn't the mad man get his own mouthpiece with that other commercial radio station?
It's bad enough with the "back the boys and make some noise" nonsense without the radio station being a propaganda machine for the club.
Dellor might be a bit of a twat but at least he asks questions that the fans themselves are asking.

Down here as well as local commercial and BBC radio there is still a daily local paper in which there is always a story about the local team but in Reading there is so little that ever comes out of the club (injury news being just one example) that it is no wonder that there is little affinity any more between club and fans and that fans feel more alienated than ever from the club.
BBCRB and the presenters may be far from perfect but at least they try to keep the fans interested which, in a season like this, is a very difficult job.

[Ian Royal]

Absolutely! McDermott is a great manager. He'll get us right in due course.

It's a shame that he has to work under such a cloud of negativity and pessimism. If Dellor understood anything about football then he would know that it takes several years to build a successful team. Knee jerk decision making which we have been on the receiving end of a lot in the last few years since Madejski relinquished his ownership takes the club backwards.

Coppell's success was built on 3 years of Coppell and 3 years before him of Pardew of gradual building before the great success. Shane Long took several years to become the great player that he was. Nicky Shorey needed a few years, Murty the same, Sidwell the same, Harper the same. They weren't instantly amazing. Michael Antonio has taken 6 or 7 years to reach the standard that he is currently playing at today. Dellor's lack of understanding is really sad and very unhelpful. He should support the club properly rather than encourage short-term knee jerk decisions that get us nowhere.

Vydra will develop into an outstanding player. It would be nice if he became that great player with us.

Dellor was far too vocal in calling for Clarke's dismissal earlier in the season and he is far too critical of players who need patience, understanding and support. He stirs up a bad atmosphere and feeling between the club and it's local radio that should be behind the club and he also drives bad feeling between the players and the fans by providing a pathetic platform for the most stupid, knee jerk tweets and comments that are made in the heat of the moment when everyone is frustrated.

I think you have forgotten what Vydra has been doing for the past 2 or 3 years.
He had one great season with Watford.
He then couldn't follow that up with Watford so they let him go to West Brom.
He then fails miserably at West Brom and then goes back to Watford.
Watford then willingly take £2.5 million off us and frankly he has been a failure at Reading.

He may well turn out to be the "great" player that you expect him to be but he may not.
I was hoping that we would get the Vydra of the first Watford season but sadly that hasn't happened.
The Reading players that you quoted went on an upward spiral over time whereas Vydra has been on a downward spiral so time may not make him better as it did with those others.

As for your feeling that Radio Berks should be "behind the club"-didn't the mad man get his own mouthpiece with that other commercial radio station?
It's bad enough with the "back the boys and make some noise" nonsense without the radio station being a propaganda machine for the club.
Dellor might be a bit of a twat but at least he asks questions that the fans themselves are asking.

Down here as well as local commercial and BBC radio there is still a daily local paper in which there is always a story about the local team but in Reading there is so little that ever comes out of the club (injury news being just one example) that it is no wonder that there is little affinity any more between club and fans and that fans feel more alienated than ever from the club.
BBCRB and the presenters may be far from perfect but at least they try to keep the fans interested which, in a season like this, is a very difficult job.

He had two very good seasons at Watford, between which he had a disappointing season in the Premier League. His league form this season has been very poor goalscoring wise, he has still scored 8 goals in total though - admittedly 5 coming in 2 games.

[RoyalBlue]

Absolutely! McDermott is a great manager. He'll get us right in due course.

It's a shame that he has to work under such a cloud of negativity and pessimism. If Dellor understood anything about football then he would know that it takes several years to build a successful team. Knee jerk decision making which we have been on the receiving end of a lot in the last few years since Madejski relinquished his ownership takes the club backwards.

Coppell's success was built on 3 years of Coppell and 3 years before him of Pardew of gradual building before the great success. Shane Long took several years to become the great player that he was. Nicky Shorey needed a few years, Murty the same, Sidwell the same, Harper the same. They weren't instantly amazing. Michael Antonio has taken 6 or 7 years to reach the standard that he is currently playing at today. Dellor's lack of understanding is really sad and very unhelpful. He should support the club properly rather than encourage short-term knee jerk decisions that get us nowhere.

Vydra will develop into an outstanding player. It would be nice if he became that great player with us.

Dellor was far too vocal in calling for Clarke's dismissal earlier in the season and he is far too critical of players who need patience, understanding and support. He stirs up a bad atmosphere and feeling between the club and it's local radio that should be behind the club and he also drives bad feeling between the players and the fans by providing a pathetic platform for the most stupid, knee jerk tweets and comments that are made in the heat of the moment when everyone is frustrated.

I think you have forgotten what Vydra has been doing for the past 2 or 3 years.
He had one great season with Watford.
He then couldn't follow that up with Watford so they let him go to West Brom.
He then fails miserably at West Brom and then goes back to Watford.
Watford then willingly take £2.5 million off us and frankly he has been a failure at Reading.

He may well turn out to be the "great" player that you expect him to be but he may not.
I was hoping that we would get the Vydra of the first Watford season but sadly that hasn't happened.
The Reading players that you quoted went on an upward spiral over time whereas Vydra has been on a downward spiral so time may not make him better as it did with those others.

As for your feeling that Radio Berks should be "behind the club"-didn't the mad man get his own mouthpiece with that other commercial radio station?
It's bad enough with the "back the boys and make some noise" nonsense without the radio station being a propaganda machine for the club.
Dellor might be a bit of a twat but at least he asks questions that the fans themselves are asking.

Actually most of the time he doesn't! Saturday was a rarity. He usually talks big before the interview but then bottles it and waits for Ady to do his dirty work for him. He repeatedly ducked out of the difficult questions with Clarke and Ady had to step in. No doubt he thought he would be OK asking his mate Brian but, having had his arse kicked by him, will probably think twice before doing it again.

IMO he is abusing his position spending so much airtime leading/fueling a witch hunt against one of our players. If he wants to be critical of players' performances, how come he isn't also questioning Kermorgant's contribution to date, including some glaring misses that have cost us. Kermorgant wasn't exactly a cheap signing, nor are his wages likely to be inconsequential, either.

[Number 9]

After seeing the highlights on Football League Tonught, am I the only one who thought that Vydra's missed chances were nowhere near as bad as Dellor made out on the radio commentary?

From what I've seen of Vydra, he's obviously lacking in confidence, but has the speed of thought, touch, pace and vision of a very, very good player. Yes, he should have scored more this season, but his work rate has been as good as, or better than, the majority of the rest of the squad.

Dellor, for whatever reason, has clearly singled him out for unfair criticism or more harsh treatment than any other player.

[Ian Royal]

After seeing the highlights on Football League Tonught, am I the only one who thought that Vydra's missed chances were nowhere near as bad as Dellor made out on the radio commentary?

From what I've seen of Vydra, he's obviously lacking in confidence, but has the speed of thought, touch, pace and vision of a very, very good player. Yes, he should have scored more this season, but his work rate has been as good as, or better than, the majority of the rest of the squad.

Dellor, for whatever reason, has clearly singled him out for unfair criticism or more harsh treatment than any other player.

No, not the only one.

The toddler tantrum after the penalty miss was actually shameful.

I thought the most glaring miss was Quinn off of Amos' save with him lying on the floor.

[Maneki Neko]

As I feel a bit lazy today I'm just going to copy and paste this:-

Reading's 1-0 win at Bolton meant the Royals are mathematically assured of their place in the Championship next season.

BBC Radio Berkshire reporter Tim Dellor asked boss Brian McDermott about the poor form of striker Matej Vydra following the game, after the on-loan Watford man missed a penalty in the match.

The Czech is goalless in the Championship since 28 November but it's fair to say Dellor and McDermott see his contribution a little differently to one another.

Here's the transcript of their exchange on the subject:

Tim Dellor: "It's an interesting spin because any way you look at it Vydra has not scored for you in the Championship yet. If you look at the number of points that are won by Reading when he is on the pitch it is incredible the disparity between when he is on the pitch and off the pitch. I think quite a lot of people, including myself, are surprised you keep picking him each week."

Brian McDermott: "Well there you go. Life is full of surprises, Tim."

TD: "It is. Are you not concerned about his complete lack of form in front of goal? I mean his misses today were unbelievable."

BM: "I think you're being really quite harsh on him."

TD: "I have no doubt I'm being harsh on him but..."

BM: "No, I actually think he is working his socks off for the team and I am asking him to work his socks off. He has had opportunities and he has not scored today but there's no way in a million years I'm going to make comments about Matej Vydra that are detrimental to him. He's a great lad, he works his socks off, I see him every day in training so... I am never going to single anybody out like that because it's just wrong in my opinion."

TD: "For you because you are the coach..."

BM: "No, it's just totally wrong."

TD: "Not wrong from me though because I'm just trying..."

BM: "No Tim, you can ask whatever question you like and I have to answer it. You are entitled to ask whatever question you like but I have got so much respect for Matej Vydra."

Excellent management from McDermott there. Good to see Tim put in his place for pushing his personal agenda.

Favouring an incompetent employee because they're a 'lovely guy' is bad enough.
But announcing to the public that that is what you're doing is not my idea of good management.

The only person he favoured him over on Saturday was Cox.
Id prefer vydra to start over Cox, on the whole.

Who else was he favoured over?

John was dropped so we could go with a more narrow midfield diamond-again correct Imo
And the formation and tactics worked a treat

[Maneki Neko]

Its that kind of lazy half baked nonsense that sounds ridiculous to me.
'Brian has his favourites' and 'brian is all long ball' 'mchoofball'
Utter bollox

[Ian Royal]

Its that kind of lazy half baked nonsense that sounds ridiculous to me.
'Brian has his favourites' and 'brian is all long ball' 'mchoofball'
Utter bollox

It's a baffling criticism.

Of course a manager has favourites. Of course a manager is going to stick by players he rates, who work hard and who have produced the goods before. That's the manager's job. It's just a case of 'this isn't going well, so the alternative must be better'. Well, maybe the alternative is worse. The manager is in a pretty good position to judge it.

[Snowball136]

Vydra's UK Career

2015-16 - 02207 Minutes - 08 Goals - 03 Assists - 201 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2014-15 - 02706 Minutes - 16 Goals - 06 Assists - 124 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2013-14 - 00781 Minutes - 04 Goals - 04 Assists - 098 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2012-13 - 03015 Minutes - 22 Goals - 09 Assists - 097 Minutes per Goal or Assist

TOTAL - - 08709 Minutes - 50 Goals - 22 Assists - 121 Minutes per Goal or Assist

[P!ssed Off]

Vydra's UK Career

2015-16 - 02207 Minutes - 08 Goals - 03 Assists - 201 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2014-15 - 02706 Minutes - 16 Goals - 06 Assists - 124 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2013-14 - 00781 Minutes - 04 Goals - 04 Assists - 098 Minutes per Goal or Assist
2012-13 - 03015 Minutes - 22 Goals - 09 Assists - 097 Minutes per Goal or Assist

TOTAL - - 08709 Minutes - 50 Goals - 22 Assists - 121 Minutes per Goal or Assist

Do you support Watford?
I couldn't give an oxf*rd about his record for them.

[P!ssed Off]

Excellent management from McDermott there. Good to see Tim put in his place for pushing his personal agenda.

Favouring an incompetent employee because they're a 'lovely guy' is bad enough.
But announcing to the public that that is what you're doing is not my idea of good management.

The only person he favoured him over on Saturday was Cox.
Id prefer vydra to start over Cox, on the whole.

Who else was he favoured over?

John was dropped so we could go with a more narrow midfield diamond-again correct Imo
And the formation and tactics worked a treat

Yeah, I suppose the tactics of play 11 men who can't score against 11 men who can't score, and then bring on someone that can score at the end did work a treat.

You lot can say "It's Vydra or Cox" as many times as you like, it's blatantly not true.
How many strikers did we have on the pitch when we beat West Brom, Rotherham and Chartlon? One is the answer.

Ola John is our only goal threat at the moment. Perhaps McDermott ought to be trying to convince him to stay for next season, rather than spend all day cuddling Reading FC's biggest ever flop. However lovely he is...

[P!ssed Off]

There is no alternative to Vydra?



at games 13 to 23.
11 games and we won two:
The one game Vydra didn't start and the one we took him off at half time.

Vydra has been a passenger all season and contributed virtually nothing in the league. We would almost certainly be higher up the league if we'd played an extra defender or midfielder instead of him.
Had we given his minutes to Samuel, Cox, Rakels etc then really we couldn't have fared any worse and I suspect they might just have managed to match or better 2 goals from 21(4).