The Snowball stat thread

[cmonurz]

Mods as this thread has totally degenerated, and Snowball is now using it to make some kind of pseudo-arrogant point, can it be deleted?

01 cmonurz, btw.

[Snowball]

04 Floyd...
04 Ian Royal...
01 Wycombe Royal...
01 Bel Monte
01 Cmonurz

[Snowball]

Let's Bring this Back to Football


Is nobody impressed that we have only been in front for a total of 350 minutes all season
yet we have won 18 games?

Nobody find that stat amazing?

Only Forest are worse, by a single minute, and West Ham have been in front 3 times as much

[Platypuss]

So basically you want your own thread that no one else can post on and that only contains stats? That isn't what a discussion forum is for.

No. Not at all. The two threads could be pinned right next to each other

One thread has the main, regular stats, the adjacent thread discusses them.

Just like right now There's the Tilehurst End (separate blog) and discussion here OF that blog


The difference would be that those trying to FIND the stats could do so.

Right now they have to wade through a sea of vitriol to find any stats

The TIlehurst End is a seperate website/blog which has a topic pinned on the team board (only one topic, not two). So in that case why don't you go and create your own stats website where you can put a load of stats, articles, etc which you can moderate your self and have a topic pinned on the team board (if Graham allows it)that discusses what is on there.

No one is stopping you doing that. What you won't get is two topics on here.

Alternatively, we could have a whole "Snowball''s Stats" area which he could moderate himself. That might be a goer, actually...

[Wimb]

Let's Bring this Back to Football


Is nobody impressed that we have only been in front for a total of 350 minutes all season
yet we have won 18 games?

Nobody find that stat amazing?

Only Forest are worse, by a single minute, and West Ham have been in front 3 times as much

That is fairly interesting, though not that surprising given our well documented lack of goals in the first half (at least until Roberts arrived..) We've also won god knows how many points with late winners

In saying that the stat is testament to the fact you can't rule this side out at any stage of the game.

[Spirit of Elm Park]

Since I am actually trying to steer the thread back to FOOTBALL

I don't consider a ticker-tape indicating off-topic posts,
trolls etc (otherwise without comment) being off-topic.

No "abuse" from me, just a count.

And I have explained myself once, which is enough.

Not getting back to football then.

Not joining in, but seriously guys, I don't know any of you but you really do appear to be a bunch of complete jockeys. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Get a life.(or a room)

[Forbury Lion]

04 Floyd...
02 Ian Royal...
01 Wycombe Royal...

Can you keep it football related and stop going off topic?

[Snowball]

Let's Bring this Back to Football


Is nobody impressed that we have only been in front for a total of 350 minutes all season
yet we have won 18 games?

Nobody find that stat amazing?

Only Forest are worse, by a single minute, and West Ham have been in front 3 times as much

That is fairly interesting, though not that surprising given our well documented lack of goals in the first half (at least until Roberts arrived..) We've also won god knows how many points with late winners

In saying that the stat is testament to the fact you can't rule this side out at any stage of the game.

Of course. I also think it shows McDermott's battle-plan.

What I'm amazed at, frankly, given that we have no player "scoring for fun"
is that we haven't had too many 0-0 draws.

Given how we play, I'd've expected more 0-0s. 0-0's in the next 13 (except perhaps at WHU and Saints) will probably be disastrous

[cmonurz]

Since I am actually trying to steer the thread back to FOOTBALL

I don't consider a ticker-tape indicating off-topic posts,
trolls etc (otherwise without comment) being off-topic.

No "abuse" from me, just a count.

And I have explained myself once, which is enough.

Not getting back to football then.

Not joining in, but seriously guys, I don't know any of you but you really do appear to be a bunch of complete jockeys. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Get a life.(or a room)

Who you calling short?

[Maguire]

I don't know any of you but you really do appear to be a bunch of complete jockeys

Good (and accurate) use of jockeys.

[cmonurz]

Can I have an 02 cmonurz please, I have a thing about odd numbers.

[Snowball]

Bringing it Back to Football


[b]Average Time of First Goal Conceded[/b]

Bit worrying.

We average scoring on the hour mark, conceding on 54 minutes

Shouldn't we be paying half the rate to get in?


61 Hull City
61 West Ham
59 Southmptn
58 Brighton
56 Cardiff
56 Burnley
54 Reading <<<<<<<<
53 Birminghm
53 Blackpool
52 Coventry
52 C Palace
51 Bristol C
50 Leicester
50 Watford
49 Derby Co
48 Ipswich
48 Millwall
48 Portsm'th
46 Barnsley
46 Midd'sbro
44 Not.Forest
44 Leeds Utd
38 Peterboro
38 Doncaster

[Wycombe Royal]

No. Not at all. The two threads could be pinned right next to each other

One thread has the main, regular stats, the adjacent thread discusses them.

Just like right now There's the Tilehurst End (separate blog) and discussion here OF that blog


The difference would be that those trying to FIND the stats could do so.

Right now they have to wade through a sea of vitriol to find any stats

The TIlehurst End is a seperate website/blog which has a topic pinned on the team board (only one topic, not two). So in that case why don't you go and create your own stats website where you can put a load of stats, articles, etc which you can moderate your self and have a topic pinned on the team board (if Graham allows it)that discusses what is on there.

No one is stopping you doing that. What you won't get is two topics on here.

Alternatively, we could have a whole "Snowball''s Stats" area which he could moderate himself. That might be a goer, actually...

Get rid of the BBC Berks forum and give Snowball one - could be a good idea.

[Wimb]

Let's Bring this Back to Football


Is nobody impressed that we have only been in front for a total of 350 minutes all season
yet we have won 18 games?

Nobody find that stat amazing?

Only Forest are worse, by a single minute, and West Ham have been in front 3 times as much

That is fairly interesting, though not that surprising given our well documented lack of goals in the first half (at least until Roberts arrived..) We've also won god knows how many points with late winners

In saying that the stat is testament to the fact you can't rule this side out at any stage of the game.

Of course. I also think it shows McDermott's battle-plan.

What I'm amazed at, frankly, given that we have no player "scoring for fun"
is that we haven't had too many 0-0 draws.

Given how we play, I'd've expected more 0-0s. 0-0's in the next 13 (except perhaps at WHU and Saints) will probably be disastrous

It's quite similar to the way we got second place in 1994-95 to be honest. That season we won a lot of games 1-0 or 2-1 and had a fantastic away record as well which helped. We scored just 58 goals in 46 games that season but thanks to a fantastic defence (2nd best in the league according to statto) we managed to get into the play-offs.

None of our strikers were prolific, think Lovell and Nogan just nudged into double figures and Quinny chipped in with a few as well.

Also never realised what a low points total was needed to win the Division that year, just 82 won it for Boro while we had 79.

[Ian Royal]

We're a bit like 02/03 this year as well. (Hope I've got my years right) we only drew 4 games iirc. Bot beat something like 17 and yet still finished 4th because we won such a lot.

We're only 7 wins off the number from that season and have two extra draws. 7 wins from 13 games seems pretty reasonable given our current form. That would put us on 81 points. It's not a huge leap to see us making 85 - 90, which I think will see us go up.

Of course surely sooner or later our form will take a turn for the worse. Look at what happened last year. 8 wins on the bounce and then 1 in the remaining 4 when it really got down to the crunch.

[Vision]

It's quite similar to the way we got second place in 1994-95 to be honest. That season we won a lot of games 1-0 or 2-1 and had a fantastic away record as well which helped. We scored just 58 goals in 46 games that season but thanks to a fantastic defence (2nd best in the league according to statto) we managed to get into the play-offs.

None of our strikers were prolific, think Lovell and Nogan just nudged into double figures and Quinny chipped in with a few as well.

Also never realised what a low points total was needed to win the Division that year, just 82 won it for Boro while we had 79.

Tbf Nogan didn't join us until halfway or so through that season. He took a little while to settle in if I recall correctly but once he did then the Lovell/Nogan partnership was pretty prolific from there on in.

Some vague parallels between that and Hunt/Roberts?

[Snowball]

It's quite similar to the way we got second place in 1994-95 to be honest. That season we won a lot of games 1-0 or 2-1 and had a fantastic away record as well which helped. We scored just 58 goals in 46 games that season but thanks to a fantastic defence (2nd best in the league according to statto) we managed to get into the play-offs.

None of our strikers were prolific, think Lovell and Nogan just nudged into double figures and Quinny chipped in with a few as well.

Also never realised what a low points total was needed to win the Division that year, just 82 won it for Boro while we had 79.

Before my time, but I get your point

(and I appreciate the football post)

Problem for me is, while watching a game, I keep waiting for things to go wrong.

I hardly ever think (in play) "Oh, no worries, we have a good defence..."

The PO final was horrible for me BEFORE we shipped the goals.


I guess I'd prefer lots of 3-2 wins, and yet I used to watch Leeds win 1-0, draw 0-0 away
and back then that felt like the norm

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Either we have the most heroic squad in history or McDermott is an absolute genius

We have only been in front for 350 minutes this season out of 2,970 (not including extra time)

That is the second-lowest in this league.

That is totally remarkable.

Or, in reference to your first point, we have a squad that defends first and foremost and then looks to try and nick a winner late on. It's not been often this season that we've dropped points having been in front (I can only think of the Saints (h) game) which would bear testimony to that fact.

The other point to bear in mind re the 350 minutes part is that 88 of those were at Elland road - which makes it even more impressive IMO.

[Snowball]

Or, in reference to your first point, we have a squad that defends first and foremost and then looks to try and nick a winner late on. It's not been often this season that we've dropped points having been in front (I can only think of the Saints (h) game) which would bear testimony to that fact.

Exactly. Which also means our set-up makes whoever is up front in the first half
look a lot worse than he might be in an open-playing side. Think "Church".

It is most clearly a way of playing which for 45-60 minutes
means the strikers are feeding on scraps but wearing down the enemy.

the stat is remarkable

The other point to bear in mind re the 350 minutes part is that 88 of those were at Elland road - which makes it even more impressive IMO.

Jeez, very good point... 262 minutes for 17 wins, meaning we were ahead only an average of 15 minutes per game.

That is TIGHT

[cmonurz]

The stat emphasises the fine margins involved in what have been, through most of the season, ‘ok’ performances. We have been grinding out results brilliantly.

I noticed today that Birmingham have the same goals for and against as West Ham, yet are 9 points worse off. And Palace have lost as many games as Reading this season, yet lie 13th in the table. It’s very close, and a slight change in fortune could put an entirely different perspective on our season.