The Snowball stat thread

[Wimb]

It's quite similar to the way we got second place in 1994-95 to be honest. That season we won a lot of games 1-0 or 2-1 and had a fantastic away record as well which helped. We scored just 58 goals in 46 games that season but thanks to a fantastic defence (2nd best in the league according to statto) we managed to get into the play-offs.

None of our strikers were prolific, think Lovell and Nogan just nudged into double figures and Quinny chipped in with a few as well.

Also never realised what a low points total was needed to win the Division that year, just 82 won it for Boro while we had 79.

Tbf Nogan didn't join us until halfway or so through that season. He took a little while to settle in if I recall correctly but once he did then the Lovell/Nogan partnership was pretty prolific from there on in.

Some vague parallels between that and Hunt/Roberts?

Good point, it was my first season watching the side as an 8 year old so don't have the best of memories but didn't we switch to a 3-5-2 from a 4-4-2 for the run in when Nogan & Lovell really started scoring?

Having just dug out the Tranmere Semi-Final programme the stats were like this for our goalscorers (inc cups & play-offs semi-finals)

S Lovell Games 31 (+5) Goals 14 (1 in cups & 2 in PO)
L Nogan Games 19 (+2) Goals 11 (1 in PO)
J Quinn Games 36 (+4) Goals 9 (4 in cups)
S Taylor Games 35 (+14) Goals 9 (1 in cups)
M Gilkes Games 41 (+3) Goals 8

So for our main three strikers to grab just 26 league goals and still finish second was quite some achievement really!

Add in the fact that Nogan & Lovell got 14 of their 21 league goals in the last 9 matches of that season and you wonder how the hell did we get anywhere near the top six with a main strike trio scoring 12 goals in our first 37 league games?!

[JC]

Bringing it Back to Football


Either we have the most heroic squad in history
or McDermott is an absolute genius

We are third, right? Third in the table with a GiH on top?

We have only been in front for 350 minutes this season out of 2,970 (not including extra time)

That is the second-lowest in this league.

That is totally remarkable.


Minutes in the Lead

1,158 West Ham 39%

944 Southmptn
821 Barnsley
814 Burnley
762 Cardiff
711 Leicester
687 Midd'sbro
669 Ipswich
651 Brighton
649 Derby Co
632 C Palace
625 Birminghm
621 Leeds Utd
612 Watford
605 Hull City
580 Peterboro
537 Blackpool
476 Millwall
439 Bristol C
376 Portsm'th
374 Coventry
362 Doncaster
350 Reading 11.8% of the time <<<<<<<<<<<<
326 Forest

Brilliant stat though it is I fear it is wrong!

I have the following

26 Leicester(A)
38 Doncaster(H)
0 Bristol City(A)
0 Burnley(H)
9 Southampton(H)
15 Birmingham(H)
0 Ipswich(A)
10 Peterborough(H)
24 West Ham(H)
88 Leeds(A)
73 Brighton(H)
26 Ipswich(H)
5 Watford(A)
32 Bristol City(H)
65 Coventry(H)
29 Derby(A)
79 Burnley(H)
73 Middlesbrough(A)
14 Millwall(A)

Those showing a zero is where we took the lead in added time as I cannot be bothered to look them up

In total that gives 606 minutes. I reckon your stats only go up to Bristol City at home

[Wimb]

606 minutes and we've just signed Jason Roberts.... coincidence?

I THINK NOT

[Snowball]

Thanks JC,


Frankly, dunno.

I took the stats from a website that Ian Royal recommended. Doesn't give details of "when to"

[Snowball]

Thanks JC, Frankly, dunno.

I took the stats from a website that Ian Royal recommended. Doesn't give details of "when to"

Just been back. They have no "markers" for that stat but just checked the main page
and they are, as you said, only up to game 28. You just can't get the stat, these days.

[Ian Royal]

Thanks JC,


Frankly, dunno.

I took the stats from a website that Ian Royal recommended. Doesn't give details of "when to"

It was very useful for penalties scored and missed. Although there were some suspicious data sets. It was better than anything else in terms of info it was trying to provide.

[Snowball]

Thanks JC,


Frankly, dunno.

I took the stats from a website that Ian Royal recommended. Doesn't give details of "when to"

It was very useful for penalties scored and missed. Although there were some suspicious data sets. It was better than anything else in terms of info it was trying to provide.

Yup. At least my stats always have a date marker or "up to Game X"

So that 77% pen-success for this season was 5 games out of date?

[Snowball]

Just back there again and thought this interesting

Just five games ago we were 8th and Birmingham in 4th had a game in hand on us.


THEN
53 Points P28 +15 West Ham United
51 Points P28 +20 Southampton
50 Points P28 +15 Cardiff City
46 Points P27 +19 Birmingham City
46 Points P28 +03 Middlesbrough
46 Points P28 +03 Hull City
45 Points P28 +10 Blackpool
45 Points P28 +08 Reading

NOW
P34 65 Points Southampton
P33 64 Points West Ham
P33 60 Points Reading

P34 56 Points Blackpool
P33 56 Points Middlesbrough
P33 55 Points Birmingham
P34 54 Points Brighton
P33 53 Points Cardiff
P32 52 Points Hull

12 points gained on Cardiff (cup run, anyone?)
09 Points gained on Hull (they have a GiH)
06 Points gained on Birmingham
05 Points gained on Boro
04 Points gained on West Ham, Blackpool
01 Points gained on Southampton (shame)

[JC]

Just back there again and thought this interesting

Just five games ago we were 8th and Birmingham in 4th had a game in hand on us.


THEN
53 Points P28 +15 West Ham United
51 Points P28 +20 Southampton
50 Points P28 +15 Cardiff City
46 Points P27 +19 Birmingham City
46 Points P28 +03 Middlesbrough
46 Points P28 +03 Hull City
45 Points P28 +10 Blackpool
45 Points P28 +08 Reading

NOW
P34 65 Points Southampton
P33 64 Points West Ham
P33 60 Points Reading

P34 56 Points Blackpool
P33 56 Points Middlesbrough
P33 55 Points Birmingham
P34 54 Points Brighton
P33 53 Points Cardiff
P32 52 Points Hull

12 points gained on Cardiff (cup run, anyone?)
09 Points gained on Hull (they have a GiH)
06 Points gained on Birmingham
05 Points gained on Boro
04 Points gained on West Ham, Blackpool
01 Points gained on Southampton (shame)

But if you go back 8 games, which is what form tables are often based on, then Saints had 47 pts from 25 games and we had 39 points from 25 games. So in that period we have made up 3 points on Saints and it would be 6 if we won the game in hand

[Bandini]

I would like this thread to be called Snowball's Useless and Meaningless Statistics

Not a big fan of the acronym, bearing in mind your odd approach to mathematics.

Call me boringly literal if you will, but there's a lot to be said for the existing subject title.

BiBtF

I like your minutes in the lead stat (whether it's right or wrong).

[Snowball]

But if you go back 8 games, which is what form tables are often based on, then Saints had 47 pts from 25 games and we had 39 points from 25 games. So in that period we have made up 3 points on Saints and it would be 6 if we won the game in hand

Oh, I'm sure. This was just a random spot.

I was just thinking how, not in their wildest bad dreams
could Cardiff fans have expected such a change in fortunes


here's another random stat.


After 6 games we were on 4 points, 12 behind Brighton's 16.

Now we are six above them, having gained 18 points in 27 games.

[Snowball]

I like your minutes in the lead stat (whether it's right or wrong).

Not my stats, B... just filched from elsewhere

It was accurate for its date, but not up to date.

[Bandini]

I like your minutes in the lead stat (whether it's right or wrong).

Not my stats, B... just felched from elsewhere

It was accurate for its date, but not up to date.

Noted.

[Royal With Cheese]

Am thoroughly enjoying the breakout of sanity in this thread and associated stats.

Reward chart stickers for all!

[Ian Royal]

There's only so much anyone can take (myself included). PS once again, apologies Snowy. Truce?


Although don't read that as I'll be agreeing with everything you post. I still have every intention of treating you like everyone else and telling you when I think you're wrong.

[Snowball]

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Update after MILLWALL



0,514 Minutes 06 Major Contributions one every 086 Minutes 3 Goals 3 Assists Roberts
1,579 Minutes 12 Major Contributions one every 132 Minutes 7 Goals 5 Assists ALF

1,895 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 172 Minutes 3 Goals 8 Assists KEBE
1,920 Minutes 10 Major Contributions one every 192 Minutes 5 Goals 5 Assists HUNT

1,447 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 207 Minutes 3 Goals 3 Assists HRK
1,525 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 219 Minutes 1 Goals 6 Assists HARTE
1,496 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 214 Minutes 6 Goals 1 Assists CHURCH
2,375 Minutes 10 Major Contributions one every 238 Minutes 4 Goals 6 Assists McAnuff

0,405 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 405 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists Connolly
3,070 Minutes 04 Major Contributions one every 768 Minutes 3 Goals 1 Assists PEARCE
0,745 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 745 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists GRIFFIN
2,386 Minutes 03 Major Contributions one every 795 Minutes 1 Goals 2 Assists KARACAN
0,925 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 925 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists TABB


1,198 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 1,198 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists MILLS
2,698 Minutes 02 Major Contributions one every 1,349 Minutes 1 Goals 1 Assists L-WOOD
1,964 Minutes 00 Major Contributions one every 1,964 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists CUMMINGS

0,022 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 022 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists CYWKA

[Snowball]

There's only so much anyone can take (myself included). PS once again, apologies Snowy. Truce?


Although don't read that as I'll be agreeing with everything you post. I still have every intention of treating you like everyone else and telling you when I think you're wrong.

No Probs, Ian.

I am trying to declutter the actual stats thread... so won't be answering much here.

but then there's always PMs...

[Snowball]

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Update after PORTSMOUTH



0,604 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 086 Minutes 3 Goals 4 Assists Roberts
1,599 Minutes 12 Major Contributions one every 134 Minutes 7 Goals 5 Assists ALF

1,895 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 172 Minutes 3 Goals 8 Assists KEBE
2,020 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 182 Minutes 6 Goals 5 Assists HUNT

1,496 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 214 Minutes 6 Goals 1 Assists CHURCH
1,517 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 227 Minutes 3 Goals 3 Assists HRK
1,615 Minutes 07 Major Contributions one every 231 Minutes 1 Goals 6 Assists HARTE
2,465 Minutes 10 Major Contributions one every 247 Minutes 4 Goals 6 Assists McAnuff

0,405 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 405 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists Connolly
3,160 Minutes 04 Major Contributions one every 790 Minutes 3 Goals 1 Assists PEARCE
0,745 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 745 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists GRIFFIN
2,476 Minutes 03 Major Contributions one every 828 Minutes 1 Goals 2 Assists KARACAN
0,925 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 925 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists TABB


1,198 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 1,198 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists MILLS
2,788 Minutes 02 Major Contributions one every 1,394 Minutes 1 Goals 1 Assists L-WOOD
2,054 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 2,054 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists CUMMINGS

0,023 Minutes 01 Major Contributions one every 023 Minutes 0 Goals 1 Assists CYWKA

[Maguire]

2,020 Minutes 11 Major Contributions one every 182 Minutes 56Goals 5 Assists HUNT

I wish he'd scored 56 goals

[Snowball]

Table Since September 17th

1 28 18-5-05 15 Clean Sheets - 05 FTS - 39-20 +19 59 Points - 2.11 ppg Reading

2 27 15-6-06 12 Clean Sheets - 06 FTS - 38-25 +13 51 Points - 1.89 ppg West Ham
3 29 14-9-06 11 Clean Sheets - 06 FTS - 48-25 +23 51 Points - 1.76 ppg Southampton


4 28 13-9-06 06 Clean Sheets - 10 FTS - 45-25 +20 48 Points - 1.71 ppg Birmingham
5 27 12-8-07 13 Clean Sheets - 09 FTS - 28-20 +08 44 Points - 1.63 ppg Hull
6 28 12-9-07 11 Clean Sheets - 10 FTS - 31-30 +01 45 Points - 1.61 ppg Middlesbrough
7 27 11-9-07 08 Clean Sheets - 05 FTS - 41-35 +06 42 Points - 1.56 ppg Cardiff
8 29 12-9-08 06 Clean Sheets - 05 FTS - 50-41 +09 45 Points - 1.55 ppg Blackpool
9 29 12-7-10 08 Clean Sheets - 07 FTS - 41-38 +03 43 Points - 1.48 ppg Leeds United