CONFRIMATION of the CONFIMRED

[windermereROYAL]

What are you guys on? we`ve got people at the club trying their hardest to keep it afloat with next to nothing coming in from the owner, it`s a minor miracle we`ve survived this long.

[WestYorksRoyal]

What are you guys on? we`ve got people at the club trying their hardest to keep it afloat with next to nothing coming in from the owner, it`s a minor miracle we`ve survived this long.

This. The amount of shit that gets spouted about staff at the club and Howe when they're going everything to keep us alive.

[Uke]

What are you guys on? we`ve got people at the club trying their hardest to keep it afloat with next to nothing coming in from the owner, it`s a minor miracle we`ve survived this long.

This. The amount of shit that gets spouted about staff at the club and Howe when they should have never let us get to this state in the first place.

[Snowflake Royal]

What are you guys on? we`ve got people at the club trying their hardest to keep it afloat with next to nothing coming in from the owner, it`s a minor miracle we`ve survived this long.

This. The amount of shit that gets spouted about staff at the club and Howe when they should have never let us get to this state in the first place.

Yes. Let's remember who was CEO when we sold to Dai, and who stayed on under him for a while. Admittedly the suggestion is he warned Dai what would happen and was ignored so walked.

[WestYorksRoyal]

What are you guys on? we`ve got people at the club trying their hardest to keep it afloat with next to nothing coming in from the owner, it`s a minor miracle we`ve survived this long.

This. The amount of shit that gets spouted about staff at the club and Howe when they should have never let us get to this state in the first place.

Yes. Let's remember who was CEO when we sold to Dai, and who stayed on under him for a while. Admittedly the suggestion is he warned Dai what would happen and was ignored so walked.

The Thais sold to Dai. It was not his decision. And as for his role under him, if an organisation you care about turns toxic, you can either run and disassociated yourself or stay and try to make a difference.

Dai has forced people at this club into countless dilemmas, such as who to take priority in paying. Maybe they haven't got every decision right, but to criticise them for trying to stick it out and make difference while Dai burns the house down is very unfair.

[Snowflake Royal]

This. The amount of shit that gets spouted about staff at the club and Howe when they should have never let us get to this state in the first place.

Yes. Let's remember who was CEO when we sold to Dai, and who stayed on under him for a while. Admittedly the suggestion is he warned Dai what would happen and was ignored so walked.

The Thais sold to Dai. It was not his decision. And as for his role under him, if an organisation you care about turns toxic, you can either run and disassociated yourself or stay and try to make a difference.

Dai has forced people at this club into countless dilemmas, such as who to take priority in paying. Maybe they haven't got every decision right, but to criticise them for trying to stick it out and make difference while Dai burns the house down is very unfair.

We can also remember he was involved in the sale to Zingarevich and the absolute shambles that was throwing money at Burns to buy rubbish from Scotland for excessive amounts whilst Madejski was busy dodging tax, if you like.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Yes. Let's remember who was CEO when we sold to Dai, and who stayed on under him for a while. Admittedly the suggestion is he warned Dai what would happen and was ignored so walked.

The Thais sold to Dai. It was not his decision. And as for his role under him, if an organisation you care about turns toxic, you can either run and disassociated yourself or stay and try to make a difference.

Dai has forced people at this club into countless dilemmas, such as who to take priority in paying. Maybe they haven't got every decision right, but to criticise them for trying to stick it out and make difference while Dai burns the house down is very unfair.

We can also remember he was involved in the sale to Zingarevich and the absolute shambles that was throwing money at Burns to buy rubbish from Scotland for excessive amounts whilst Madejski was busy dodging tax, if you like.

You mean the part where he was the CEO for the most successful era in our history? Nobody gets all signings right to digging up a few from the late 90s is ridiculous.

The sale to AZ was a fatal error. Catastrophic. But it was done with good intentions, they were tricked. It was somebody with a connection to the area and apparently buckets of cash. And SJM with Howe's help even rescued us once when it went wrong.

And yeh, I don't agree with SJM's tax dodging. But it doesn't change the fact he was a good owner for this club.

[Clyde1998]

All the players will become free agents, most of them won`t have too many problems finding new clubs, and quite frankly they will be happy to be released from this shit show.
Just wonder what will happen to the stadium, it will still be there for quite a while and a reminder of what used to be.

In terms of contracts, I believe we've got the following players contracted for next season:

1. GK - Bouzanis
2. GK - Boyce-Clarke
3. GK - Button
4. RB - Yiadom
5. CB - Bindon
6. CB - Dean
7. CB - Mbengue
8. CM - Savage
9. CM - Wing
10. AM - Elliott
11. AM - Knibbs
12. ST - Smith

Of those we appear to have optional contract extension clauses for (players on professional contracts):

1. GK - Andresson
2. GK - Mawer
3. GK - Norcott
4. GK - Pereira
5. GK - Rowley
6. RB - Abrefa
7. RB - Paul
8. LB - Clarke, John
9. CB - Holzman
10. CB - Kanu
11. CB - Stickland
12. CM - Hammond-Chambers-Borgnis
13. CM - Purcell
14. CM - Senga
15. AM - Giscombe
16. AM - Maudner
17. AM - Wellens
18. WF - Camara
19. WF - Clark, Billie
20. WF - Okine-Peters
21. WF - Tuma
22. ST - Clarke, Jahmari

[Snowflake Royal]

The Thais sold to Dai. It was not his decision. And as for his role under him, if an organisation you care about turns toxic, you can either run and disassociated yourself or stay and try to make a difference.

Dai has forced people at this club into countless dilemmas, such as who to take priority in paying. Maybe they haven't got every decision right, but to criticise them for trying to stick it out and make difference while Dai burns the house down is very unfair.

We can also remember he was involved in the sale to Zingarevich and the absolute shambles that was throwing money at Burns to buy rubbish from Scotland for excessive amounts whilst Madejski was busy dodging tax, if you like.

You mean the part where he was the CEO for the most successful era in our history? Nobody gets all signings right to digging up a few from the late 90s is ridiculous.

The sale to AZ was a fatal error. Catastrophic. But it was done with good intentions, they were tricked. It was somebody with a connection to the area and apparently buckets of cash. And SJM with Howe's help even rescued us once when it went wrong.

And yeh, I don't agree with SJM's tax dodging. But it doesn't change the fact he was a good owner for this club.

The only point I've made is that Howe isn't some sort of faultless paragon of virtue.

[WestYorksRoyal]

We can also remember he was involved in the sale to Zingarevich and the absolute shambles that was throwing money at Burns to buy rubbish from Scotland for excessive amounts whilst Madejski was busy dodging tax, if you like.

You mean the part where he was the CEO for the most successful era in our history? Nobody gets all signings right to digging up a few from the late 90s is ridiculous.

The sale to AZ was a fatal error. Catastrophic. But it was done with good intentions, they were tricked. It was somebody with a connection to the area and apparently buckets of cash. And SJM with Howe's help even rescued us once when it went wrong.

And yeh, I don't agree with SJM's tax dodging. But it doesn't change the fact he was a good owner for this club.

The only point I've made is that Howe isn't some sort of faultless paragon of virtue.

Can meet in the middle there. But I do think he's acting with the club's best interests in trying circumstances.

[Snowflake Royal]

You mean the part where he was the CEO for the most successful era in our history? Nobody gets all signings right to digging up a few from the late 90s is ridiculous.

The sale to AZ was a fatal error. Catastrophic. But it was done with good intentions, they were tricked. It was somebody with a connection to the area and apparently buckets of cash. And SJM with Howe's help even rescued us once when it went wrong.

And yeh, I don't agree with SJM's tax dodging. But it doesn't change the fact he was a good owner for this club.

The only point I've made is that Howe isn't some sort of faultless paragon of virtue.

Can meet in the middle there. But I do think he's acting with the club's best interests in trying circumstances.

I'm sure he's trying. But I also don't trust him to be completely honest and transparent. For good reason probably.

[Sutekh]

Nigel's apparently been having problems persuading buyers recently....

[SouthDownsRoyal]

We usually get an update from STAR at the start of the week, be interesting to see what Howe says as he seems to have spun them a load of nonsense to date.

And will continue to do so

[SouthDownsRoyal]

I don’t believe Dai has ever had any intention of selling us. He’s been going through the motions and basically there’s nothing we can do about it as he doesn’t give a oxf*rd.

He can just let this happen and he’s so far removed from the club he doesn’t care about all of the protests etc. We’re going the same way as his other clubs and the only thing we can control is either to die silently or kicking and screaming.

I agree but why doesn’t he not just sell up and forget about reading fc forever why just hold on to it putting some good money after bad for nothing?

[Hound]

I don’t believe Dai has ever had any intention of selling us. He’s been going through the motions and basically there’s nothing we can do about it as he doesn’t give a oxf*rd.

He can just let this happen and he’s so far removed from the club he doesn’t care about all of the protests etc. We’re going the same way as his other clubs and the only thing we can control is either to die silently or kicking and screaming.

I agree but why doesn’t he not just sell up and forget about reading fc forever why just hold on to it putting some good money after bad for nothing?

Think that’s the main problem in all of this. No one really knows what his intentions are and why he’s behaving as he is. It’s impossible to be optimistic with that being the case

[SouthDownsRoyal]

I don’t believe Dai has ever had any intention of selling us. He’s been going through the motions and basically there’s nothing we can do about it as he doesn’t give a oxf*rd.

He can just let this happen and he’s so far removed from the club he doesn’t care about all of the protests etc. We’re going the same way as his other clubs and the only thing we can control is either to die silently or kicking and screaming.

I agree but why doesn’t he not just sell up and forget about reading fc forever why just hold on to it putting some good money after bad for nothing?

Think that’s the main problem in all of this. No one really knows what his intentions are and why he’s behaving as he is. It’s impossible to be optimistic with that being the case

I agree finding it hard to be optimistic

If I owned a football club, had put a lot of money into it and it hadn’t worked out and my team were a basket case and I was putting (minimal) money in to keep it just about ticking along, being fined personally (I know he won’t pay) and getting loads of negative press etc I’d just sell the thing for a few million and move on and get rid of it

But why he doesn’t is beyond me and as you say gives me no hope it’s almost as if he’s decided oxf*rd this oxf*rd the club which in my head makes no sense but I’m not Dai

I may be wrong and I hope I am but I get the feeling he has no interest or desire to sell the club and all the words from Howe and Bowen are either because they for some reason believe him or they are just towing the line

Either way I can’t (sadly) see a positive outcome

[Lower West]

I agree but why doesn’t he not just sell up and forget about reading fc forever why just hold on to it putting some good money after bad for nothing?

Think that’s the main problem in all of this. No one really knows what his intentions are and why he’s behaving as he is. It’s impossible to be optimistic with that being the case

I agree finding it hard to be optimistic

If I owned a football club, had put a lot of money into it and it hadn’t worked out and my team were a basket case and I was putting (minimal) money in to keep it just about ticking along, being fined personally (I know he won’t pay) and getting loads of negative press etc I’d just sell the thing for a few million and move on and get rid of it

But why he doesn’t is beyond me and as you say gives me no hope it’s almost as if he’s decided oxf*rd this oxf*rd the club which in my head makes no sense but I’m not Dai

I may be wrong and I hope I am but I get the feeling he has no interest or desire to sell the club and all the words from Howe and Bowen are either because they for some reason believe him or they are just towing the line

Either way I can’t (sadly) see a positive outcome

The longer the saga drags on the worse the situation is becoming. Nor do I think Dai is in total control of the situation either. I'd suggest that his personal assets in China have been frozen. Any funding for a while has come from the sale of overseas assets. Sad to think that the years of hard work under Sir John are unraveling in front of our eyes.

[Hound]

I think my fear is that he has been advised he’ll get more money by selling the training ground and stadium for more if there was no club attached - the club side obviously being likely to lose money over time. So he’ll happily let the club die and sell off what’s left

[From Despair To Where?]

Neither of which are worth anything like the same value without a functioning club.

[Hound]

Neither of which are worth anything like the same value without a functioning club.

That would certainly be the obvious assumption. Dai is hardly known for accepting or taking good advice

As stated many times, the logical thing to have done would have been to have sold asap when he got bored. But it didn’t happen and shows no real signs of happening anytime soon