Who is going down?

Who is going down?

Reading
33
18%
Barnsley
55
31%
Derby
32
18%
Peterborough
59
33%
 
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Re: Who is going down?

by Snowflake Royal » 08 Mar 2022 09:44

It's an absolute nonsense.

Those accounts are for last season when Barnsley finished above us.

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Re: Who is going down?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 08 Mar 2022 09:48

Snowflake Royal It's an absolute nonsense.

Those accounts are for last season when Barnsley finished above us.


We can only assume they are saying that forecasting this seasons accounts means we would still fail the 3 year cycle of FFP.

But again, I don't know what they are practically trying to base this off because we've agreed a business plan with the EFL and I'm sure most, if not all, clubs who failed FFP regulations in recent years, would also fail the year after as well because I can't imagine it's that easy to simply cut your costs within a season without selling the vast majority of your squad.

Said it a few times but, most clubs in this division do not have sustainable P&S models. Teams with parachute payments, for example, do not have a long-term sustainable P&S model for the Championship.

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Re: Who is going down?

by Millsy » 08 Mar 2022 11:46

Let's just make sure we finish with solid gap between us and a relegation spot. More than 6 points would be lovely.

With our excellent squad should be very easy.

Dai - I bloody well hope you're tying up loose ends on a contract for our new manager?

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Re: Who is going down?

by Lower West » 08 Mar 2022 11:53

YorkshireRoyal99
Snowflake Royal It's an absolute nonsense.

Those accounts are for last season when Barnsley finished above us.


We can only assume they are saying that forecasting this seasons accounts means we would still fail the 3 year cycle of FFP.

But again, I don't know what they are practically trying to base this off because we've agreed a business plan with the EFL and I'm sure most, if not all, clubs who failed FFP regulations in recent years, would also fail the year after as well because I can't imagine it's that easy to simply cut your costs within a season without selling the vast majority of your squad.

Said it a few times but, most clubs in this division do not have sustainable P&S models. Teams with parachute payments, for example, do not have a long-term sustainable P&S model for the Championship.



RFC did appear to stall the imposition of the penalty as far as they could into the current season. :wink:

Dai does appear to work with a belligerent billionaire mindset. Though too much of a coward to meet or speak to the fans.

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Re: Who is going down?

by Stranded » 08 Mar 2022 13:53

YorkshireRoyal99
Snowflake Royal It's an absolute nonsense.

Those accounts are for last season when Barnsley finished above us.


We can only assume they are saying that forecasting this seasons accounts means we would still fail the 3 year cycle of FFP.

But again, I don't know what they are practically trying to base this off because we've agreed a business plan with the EFL and I'm sure most, if not all, clubs who failed FFP regulations in recent years, would also fail the year after as well because I can't imagine it's that easy to simply cut your costs within a season without selling the vast majority of your squad.

Said it a few times but, most clubs in this division do not have sustainable P&S models. Teams with parachute payments, for example, do not have a long-term sustainable P&S model for the Championship.


I have no idea how they would know what the forecast is yet as I don't believe it is due until the end of the month. If we lose more than 13m this year with increased turnover and a lower wage bill we deserve the other 6 points but under the agreed decision that cannot be applied until next season I believe.


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Re: Who is going down?

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 08 Mar 2022 16:14

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Snowflake Royal It's an absolute nonsense.

Those accounts are for last season when Barnsley finished above us.


We can only assume they are saying that forecasting this seasons accounts means we would still fail the 3 year cycle of FFP.

But again, I don't know what they are practically trying to base this off because we've agreed a business plan with the EFL and I'm sure most, if not all, clubs who failed FFP regulations in recent years, would also fail the year after as well because I can't imagine it's that easy to simply cut your costs within a season without selling the vast majority of your squad.

Said it a few times but, most clubs in this division do not have sustainable P&S models. Teams with parachute payments, for example, do not have a long-term sustainable P&S model for the Championship.


I have no idea how they would know what the forecast is yet as I don't believe it is due until the end of the month. If we lose more than 13m this year with increased turnover and a lower wage bill we deserve the other 6 points but under the agreed decision that cannot be applied until next season I believe.


It depends on what they know, or what they believe they know. I don't know how they would know it, but there may be some information that they can gather, or predict. They'll have looked at our sales, incomings, outgoings etc and probably predicted that we will still be over. Again, to whatever level of accuracy would be scrutinised of course, but from their perspective, it could be worth a claim.

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Re: Who is going down?

by Stranded » 09 Mar 2022 09:11

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We can only assume they are saying that forecasting this seasons accounts means we would still fail the 3 year cycle of FFP.

But again, I don't know what they are practically trying to base this off because we've agreed a business plan with the EFL and I'm sure most, if not all, clubs who failed FFP regulations in recent years, would also fail the year after as well because I can't imagine it's that easy to simply cut your costs within a season without selling the vast majority of your squad.

Said it a few times but, most clubs in this division do not have sustainable P&S models. Teams with parachute payments, for example, do not have a long-term sustainable P&S model for the Championship.


I have no idea how they would know what the forecast is yet as I don't believe it is due until the end of the month. If we lose more than 13m this year with increased turnover and a lower wage bill we deserve the other 6 points but under the agreed decision that cannot be applied until next season I believe.


It depends on what they know, or what they believe they know. I don't know how they would know it, but there may be some information that they can gather, or predict. They'll have looked at our sales, incomings, outgoings etc and probably predicted that we will still be over. Again, to whatever level of accuracy would be scrutinised of course, but from their perspective, it could be worth a claim.


Could be but I'm pretty sure that the terms of the penalty mean that we can't lose any more points this season, so at this point worst case is relegation and - 6 next year. I would hope we haven't been stupid enough to knowingly break the agreement or even how we could do that given EFL oversight.

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Re: Who is going down?

by blythspartan » 09 Mar 2022 13:23

I think we’ll go down with Derby and Posh but I obviously hope I am wrong. I can see Barnsley battling for more points than us and having a lot more grit and determination.

Apart from 1 or 2 games we always fall apart when the going gets tough and I haven’t seen anything yet to suggest that’s going to change anytime soon. Maybe the management team can instil some nastiness into the team to make us less easy to play against.

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