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by Woodcote Royal » 28 Dec 2006 04:08

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Why not leap to Sonko or Hunt's defence as they were named as scapegoats in the posts above that went to great lengths to defend Shorey?


When you've read all the other threads where I praise Sonko for just about competing with the best striker in Europe at the moment or where I named Ivar as my player of the month or raved about Hunty playing out of his skin (and long may it continue) then come back to me. :x

Don't accuse me of leaping to one player's defence ahead of anyone elses. I'll gripe and grumble as much as anyone else, but it must all be in context. Sure so-and-so mislaid a pass, but what a tackle to make up for it...and so on.


I'm responding to this thread in which you and others continue to be selective in who you defend and, as ever, some of the Shorey worship borders on the pathetic.

Back on planet earth, he hasn't been at his best over Christmas, which is all that the starter of this thread has suggested..............................and this makes him a plank :?

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by Royalee » 28 Dec 2006 04:16

Woodcote Royal If only all our players got the same breaks as Nicky Shorey, who no one is allowed to criticize.

Why not leap to Sonko or Hunt's defence as they were named as scapegoats in the posts above that went to great lengths to defend Shorey?


You really should drop your vendetta,

It's funny how much more effective Shorey was when we attacked with Hunt out of the team yesterday...

Obviously better than Convey at this level.

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by Woodcote Royal » 28 Dec 2006 04:27

My only vendetta is against the pathetic favouritsm that surrounds one or 2 players.

Shorey didn't have a good game yesterday in defence or attack and this time his fan club can't blame Stephen Hunt.

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by International Royal » 28 Dec 2006 11:03

Woodcote Royal My only vendetta is against the pathetic favouritsm that surrounds one or 2 players.

Shorey didn't have a good game yesterday in defence or attack and this time his fan club can't blame Stephen Hunt.


Woody - you are so predictable, come on change the record. The reason why the likes of Shorey, Convey, Little, Murty, Doyle and others have their "fan clubs / pathetic favouritism" as you put it is because they have built up a lot of goodwill over a protracted period of time. That has been based on a lot of good performances for the club. Sure they will have dips, they are human, but they are consistent over the longer period.

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by zac naloen » 28 Dec 2006 11:05

Woody - you are so predictable, come on change the record. The reason why the likes of Shorey, Convey, Little, Murty, Doyle and others have their "fan clubs / pathetic favouritism" as you put it is because they have built up a lot of goodwill over a protracted period of time. That has been based on a lot of good performances for the club. Sure they will have dips, they are human, but they are consistent over the longer period.


Exactly it, and the reason some players get more stick than others is because they are inconsistent all the time or just plain consistently poor.


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by PREMIERSHIP_ROYAL » 28 Dec 2006 11:27

lay off shorey he's easily one of the most important players in the team

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by lozz2601 » 28 Dec 2006 14:00

If he is playing badly/slightly off he is as liable for critisicm as any of the other players, regardless of how important they are.

Unless you are joking/being sarcastic in which case :oops:

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by RG30 » 28 Dec 2006 14:10

Shorey's good but I expect Scotty Golbourne will be much better when he's the same age Shorey is (24,25,26?).

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by lozz2601 » 28 Dec 2006 14:19

He's pretty young.


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by Row Z Royal » 28 Dec 2006 18:58

RG30 Shorey's good but I expect Scotty Golbourne will be much better when he's the same age Shorey is (24,25,26?).


Scott Golbourne is the future - I've seen it!

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by E. Andrew » 28 Dec 2006 22:39

RoyalBlue I do think that in recent games his delivery from deadball situations has been well below his normal high standard.


though he still remains one of the best on the squad at putting a shot on target with a free kick IMO

he's doing well enough

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by Coppell's Right Footed 11 » 28 Dec 2006 22:43

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Royalwaster Even though I generally think he's been playing really well for us this season especially going forward, it is a bit troubling how many goals have involved him being caught out of position:

Rubbish. When Shorey goes forward (or Murty) the hair stands up on the back of my neck, our midfield move forward in anticipation of an accurate cross, and that’s when we look (and are) most dangerous. And if you look off ball you will find that someone else always covers.

Blackburn - OK as a result of a terrible cross-field pass
Match report on this site blames Oster.

Chelsea's second
Match report on this site blames Sonko.

Several Arsenal goals - most came down the left
Match report on this site blames no one in particular but says we badly missed Murty because most of the attacks (and goals) came down our right side.

Everton's first
Match report on this site blames no defender but rather bemoans the ineffectiveness of our strikers.

Any others?
You tell us!

I guess it is the price of his constant desire to go forward - did anyone see the statistic in the Observer of most crosses? He was up there in about 8th place with most of the others around him being wingers.
We rarely advance or attack down the middle, where do you think our goal chances come from?

But it has been a concern of mine recently, how many goals have come down his side. Has anyone else noticed this?
No! Rather it has been of concern that we are the highest team in the prem with a minus goal difference. Goal scoring chances are harder to come by in the prem, yet we have had lots. It’s our finishing touch that is our main weakness at the moment.



A few other recent quotes from THE WASTER

I'll go for my usual pessimism

There was a rumour that they were watching Kevin Doyle ... but Coppell said he was rubbish so I doubt we're going to sign him!

I guess I get the prize for most pessimistic supporter on here

yesterday, it is worth noting that all three goals from open play were down our left!

No improvement needed when it comes to result - I'd take a hard fought 1:0 against Chelsea any time.

I was sure all last season we'd blow it and hey we didn't! Similarly, the number of times in a game I've predicted that the other team will score and we go and nick one can't be a coincidence.


Tired of picking out Marcus?

I'll get your coat.


So your counter argument to his is to suggest that match reports designed by other fans state shorey was at fault for none? Just because another fan says so? Do one you mug.

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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Dec 2006 02:07

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Woodcote Royal My only vendetta is against the pathetic favouritsm that surrounds one or 2 players.

Shorey didn't have a good game yesterday in defence or attack and this time his fan club can't blame Stephen Hunt.


Woody - you are so predictable, come on change the record. The reason why the likes of Shorey, Convey, Little, Murty, Doyle and others have their "fan clubs / pathetic favouritism" as you put it is because they have built up a lot of goodwill over a protracted period of time. That has been based on a lot of good performances for the club. Sure they will have dips, they are human, but they are consistent over the longer period.



I'm responding to the broken record owned by Shorey's fan club that's getting YET another airing because someone's had the temerity to suggest that he's not been at his best of late..............how fcuking sad are you lot :?

Nothing on HNA? is more predictable than you leaping to Shorey's defence the minute someone suggests that he's less than perfect.

Sonko, Hahnemann and Kitson, deserve the same adulation as the chosen few that you mention, yet they've had just as much stick from the muppets who inhabit the asylum...............I can't wait for the day when someone suggests little Nicky might be a tad "lazy" :roll:


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by International Royal » 29 Dec 2006 07:12

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Woodcote Royal My only vendetta is against the pathetic favouritsm that surrounds one or 2 players.

Shorey didn't have a good game yesterday in defence or attack and this time his fan club can't blame Stephen Hunt.


Woody - you are so predictable, come on change the record. The reason why the likes of Shorey, Convey, Little, Murty, Doyle and others have their "fan clubs / pathetic favouritism" as you put it is because they have built up a lot of goodwill over a protracted period of time. That has been based on a lot of good performances for the club. Sure they will have dips, they are human, but they are consistent over the longer period.





I'm responding to the broken record owned by Shorey's fan club that's getting YET another airing because someone's had the temerity to suggest that he's not been at his best of late..............how fcuking sad are you lot :?

Nothing on HNA? is more predictable than you leaping to Shorey's defence the minute someone suggests that he's less than perfect.

Sonko, Hahnemann and Kitson, deserve the same adulation as the chosen few that you mention, yet they've had just as much stick from the muppets who inhabit the asylum...............I can't wait for the day when someone suggests little Nicky might be a tad "lazy" :roll:


Mate - there's only person who should be in the asylum..............

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by ayjaydee » 29 Dec 2006 08:06

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Woodcote Royal My only vendetta is against the pathetic favouritsm that surrounds one or 2 players.

Shorey didn't have a good game yesterday in defence or attack and this time his fan club can't blame Stephen Hunt.


Woody - you are so predictable, come on change the record. The reason why the likes of Shorey, Convey, Little, Murty, Doyle and others have their "fan clubs / pathetic favouritism" as you put it is because they have built up a lot of goodwill over a protracted period of time. That has been based on a lot of good performances for the club. Sure they will have dips, they are human, but they are consistent over the longer period.





I'm responding to the broken record owned by Shorey's fan club that's getting YET another airing because someone's had the temerity to suggest that he's not been at his best of late..............how fcuking sad are you lot :?

Nothing on HNA? is more predictable than you leaping to Shorey's defence the minute someone suggests that he's less than perfect.

Sonko, Hahnemann and Kitson, deserve the same adulation as the chosen few that you mention, yet they've had just as much stick from the muppets who inhabit the asylum...............I can't wait for the day when someone suggests little Nicky might be a tad "lazy" :roll:


Mate - there's only person who should be in the asylum..............


And that is the person who for a long while asserted that a certain A Hughes was a better left back than Shorey. Oh, and thought that Glen Little was too slow to be a good Championship player.

WR, your anti Shorey stance is even more pathetically laughable than your perceived "Shorey groupies".

As has already been stated the reason people are less likely to criticise players like Shorey is that they achieve consistently high standards so the odd lapse is seen as forgiveable.

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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Dec 2006 13:55

I don't have anti-Shorey stance, find an anti Shorey thread I've started.

Like most of his team mates, he's having a very good season but those above who suggest that he'se been blameless for just about every goal conceded down our left (many of the same posters being quick to blame Hunt instead) continue to display a pathetic level of heroe worship towards our left back............................. the biggest surprise of all is that it's taken you so long to make your contribution.

Andy Hughes played his best football for RFC as a stand in full back and I wish he'd still been around to cover for Murty this seasion.

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by Alan Partridge » 29 Dec 2006 14:03

Woodcote Royal I don't have anti-Shorey stance, find an anti Shorey thread I've started.

Like most of his team mates, he's having a very good season but those above who suggest that he'se been blameless for just about every goal conceded down our left (many of the same posters being quick to blame Hunt instead) continue to display a pathetic level of heroe worship towards our left back............................. the biggest surprise of all is that it's taken you so long to make your contribution.

Andy Hughes played his best football for RFC as a stand in full back and I wish he'd still been around to cover for Murty this seasion.


If Andy Hughes was still here we'd still be in the Championship.

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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Dec 2006 14:09

From what I've seen when Murty has been out injured, we'd be playing in next season's Championship for sure had he missed most of this campaign..........................I'd take Hughes over all deputies I've seen so far.

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by Alan Partridge » 29 Dec 2006 14:10

Woodcote Royal From what I've seen when Murty has been out injured we'd be playing in next season's Championship for sure had he missed most of this campaign..........................I'd take Hughes over all deputies I've seen so far.


What about Chris Makin? A by far better full back than all of them including Hughes.

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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Dec 2006 14:12

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Woodcote Royal From what I've seen when Murty has been out injured we'd be playing in next season's Championship for sure had he missed most of this campaign..........................I'd take Hughes over all deputies I've seen so far.


What about Chris Makin? A by far better full back than all of them including Hughes.


Sorry, I meant this season's stand ins......Makin leaving has cost us, I agree.

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