All the players we 'missed out' on...

[ankeny]

Matt Taylor

[cmonurz]

One thing to say.... Andy Reid £5m .

I rest my case.

Glad to see we haven't been dragged into taking players purely because sections of our fanbase demand it. There is no messiah. We were good enough in August, and we are still good enough now.

Not RTG, just realism.

Fair enough. In reality, Sunderland are above us with a game in hand.

[Arch]

One thing to say.... Andy Reid £5m .

I rest my case.

Glad to see we haven't been dragged into taking players purely because sections of our fanbase demand it. There is no messiah. We were good enough in August, and we are still good enough now.

Not RTG, just realism.

Fair enough. In reality, Sunderland are above us with a game in hand.

No thanks to Andy REid, though.

[Platypuss]

We were good enough in August, and we are still good enough now.

Not RTG, just realism.

That only works if the other teams don't get better.

[Arch]

We were good enough in August, and we are still good enough now.

Not RTG, just realism.

That only works if the other teams don't get better.

What I don't get is if all this buying and buying makes teams better, why do so many people think the standard of the PL is declining?

[Platypuss]

Bolton seem to have improved recently.

[Uke]

It'll be clear who makes a contribution from their performances, otherwise they're just makeweights and a burden on the salary.

To paraphrase a "well known manager", the ultimate test will be the table at the end of the season...

Also let's not turn this thread into another slag our squad off - please! Theere are a million and one other threads for that.

So you don't believe in having a squad to cover for players being unavailable or out of form then?

I'm not slagging anyone off thanks, just offering an opinion on the subject of the thread.

No commet Uke?

I guess then, that you live in a nice little world were everything goes to plan and you don't have to have a plan B incase A falls apart around you...

Not "no comment" - I just haven't been online for a day or two.

I am concerned that our squad doesn't have a plan B given its size, but that's not the point of this thread is it?



Apart from Bolton who else should we track in this thread?

[cmonurz]

Well Palacios and King played their part in Wigan's decent home victory yesterday over West Ham. And Rade Prica scored on his debut in Sunderland's important win over Birmingham.

We'll see if Fulham's new signings can make an impact today, and I guess Alves will make his Middlesbrough debut at Newcastle.

[Uke]

No Alves, and he may not even play a part all season if the legal people get their way!

[Platypuss]

Fulham put themselves just 3 points behind us. And yes, their GD is better.

[Skin]

From Platypus' thread we have all these players who have gone to our rivals to play a major part in securing their survival.

So why don't we track just how marvellous they are and how many actually make first team regulars and have a real effect?

Perhaps that will see whether the RTGs are right or the GTGs (Grey tinted glasses). The losers buy a virtual pint for the winners at the NHA virtual bar.

Here's the list... Any more to add?



Fulham -
IN: Brede Hangeland, Leon Andreasen, Eddie Johnson, Jari Litmanen, Erik Nevland. Toni Kallio, Erik Hagen, Paul Stalteri

Boro -
IN: Afonso Alves

Birmingham -
IN: David Murphy, James McFadden, Mauro Zarate

Sunderland -
IN: Jonny Evans, Jean-Yves Mvoto, Phil Bardesley, Rade Prica, Andy Reid

Wigan -
IN: Wilson Palacios, Maynor Figueroa, Erik Edman, Marlon King.

Bolton -
IN: Gretar Steinsson, Tamir Cohen, Matt Taylor , Gary Cahill, Grzegorz Rasiak.

Derby -
IN: Hossam Ghaly, Danny Mills, Laurent Robert, Robbie Savage, Emanuel Villa, Mile Sterjovski, Roy Carroll, Alan Stubbs

Reading -
OUT: John Halls, Alex Pearce, James Henry, Simon Cox.

I f uckin wonder. Lets see.

Fulham - just BEAT Villa

Boro - DREW with Newcastle, away.

Birmingham - LOST (see Sunderland)

Sunderland - BEAT Birmingham

Wigan - BEAT West Ham

Bolton - BEAT Reading

Derby - DREW with Man City




FULHAM ARE 3 POINTS BEHIND US.


Reading FC - WHAT A JOKE.


do it in the cheap....? f uck off. anyone that thought it would be any different ... WAKE UP, no ambition = relegation.

[Uke]

OK, so one game in we are looking bad, but this thread is not about the one game is it?

Neither is the season.

[Uke]

OK, so one game in we are looking bad, but this thread is not about the one game is it?

No, but you might want to take a look at how many league games we have lost in a row.. let me give you a clue... it's not just one game

You really are having trouble grasping the whole point of this thread to parrot what you've said a million times on other threads....

Go back one page...

Quite a few there I personally wouldn't have minded! whether all of them would have fit in here is different but solely as players a few of them would have been more than decent.

Past performance is no guarantee of future performance (as with shares) that's why we should watch from now on.

Basically a line is now drawn in the sand (turf?) from which we see how well we have done.

[Platypuss]

Why draw it on the first of Feb - did (for instance) Prica not contribute to Sunderland's cause in midweek? What about Fulham's draw at Bolton?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

OK, so one game in we are looking bad, but this thread is not about the one game is it?

No, but you might want to take a look at how many league games we have lost in a row.. let me give you a clue... it's not just one game

I take it after our 5 match unbeaten run that preceeded thse results that you were saying it meant we were unbeatable.

The huge worry about yesterday wasn't that it was a 6th loss in a row, but just the manner of the defeat. We looked like we didn't believe we'd score. Same team (virtually) two games earlier and everyone is saying that if we keep playing like that we'll stay up easily. Now people are saying that if we keep play like that then we'll go down easily. Both statements are true, but the reality will most likely be somewhere in between.

[Uke]

Why draw it on the first of Feb - did (for instance) Prica not contribute to Sunderland's cause in midweek? What about Fulham's draw at Bolton?

Because that was the end of the "Window of Opportunity" so from the time everythjing was effectively nailed down.

Also you have to draw it at some point.

[Uke]

No, it seems YOU are the one who is missing the point.
Just to clear it up for you:

Fulham put themselves just 3 points behind us. And yes, their GD is better.

Fulham play Middlesbrough next week, while we are away at Everton.
Who do you think are more likely to get three points, us or Fulham?
I predict that we will then be behind Fulham on the league table, which puts us in which position?
THAT'S RIGHT, 18TH POSITION!
Unless Birmingham manage a draw away at West Ham, then we would in fact be 19th.

And guess what? Part of the reason is that FULHAM went out and SIGNED PLAYERS they NEEDED in the transfer window, while we DID NOTHING (missed out), which is what the thread is all about.

Please tell me the point of the thread I started

That is your view and the one you repeat everywhere you can. The whole board knows it by now.

This is not a prediction thread its how we have missed out (note the past tense) - until it actually happens we cannot miss out, we might miss out. We may well have missed out, but only next week will it be a reality. This thread should remain about reality only.

Oh, and yes I share your concerns too, but "Que sera, sera" is all that we can do now, so its not worth getting angry and shouty about. Observe and discuss.

[The whole year inn]

Neil Lennon

[howser]

I'll wait to see Kebe before I make a view on him but the main thing about the list of who our rivals brought in and the response from the club would be:- Too Old or Too expensive (nothing over £2.5m for poor hard up Reading).............................just where has all that Prem + TV money gone ???????????

At least we will or should have loads to spend for the champioship next season with all the buys in the summer, or hang on maybe we ""will go with what we have got left, and "do our buisiness in the January window" l mmmm well now where have I heard that one before ???????

[Platypuss]

Why draw it on the first of Feb - did (for instance) Prica not contribute to Sunderland's cause in midweek? What about Fulham's draw at Bolton?

Because that was the end of the "Window of Opportunity" so from the time everythjing was effectively nailed down.

Also you have to draw it at some point.

Why not 1st Jan then, when the window opened? As I said, otherwise how are you going to deal with Prica's (and the like's) input?