Are we now a selling club?

[zummerset]

We will have to meet up sometime Berry if the Royals venture down here

[Berry]

We will have to meet up sometime Berry if the Royals venture down here

Ar that we will!! Share a Cider or two! Am I being too stereotypical? LOL

[Plymouth_Royal]

Hey Berry, the moon is made of cheese and there is a London double decker bus on the dark side of it.

[Plymouth_Royal]

Berry i have never known in the history of football that a team would accept a 70% sell on clause as part of a purchase. Swindon aren't great but they're no idiots, unlike yourself of course.

[Terminal Boardom]

Hey Berry, the moon is made of cheese and there is a London double decker bus on the dark side of it.

Dont be a bellend, I couldnt really care 2 Fcks to be honest, I thought i might share in a bit of banter before I went out, but quickly Ive realised how so many people on here are so twisted up and bent on putting people down, see you again in aprox 2 years, I will post again and test to see if its changed. Why dont you go down to the M4, wait for an accident and tell the emergency services that "You dont do it like that" Bye from the man on the moon...........

That IS banter you knob! And thanks for the tip. I think I will pop down to J6. Then again, I may just avail myself to Wexham Park and point out where they are all going wrong...

[Berry]

Hey Berry, the moon is made of cheese and there is a London double decker bus on the dark side of it.

Dont be a bellend, I couldnt really care 2 Fcks to be honest, I thought i might share in a bit of banter before I went out, but quickly Ive realised how so many people on here are so twisted up and bent on putting people down, see you again in aprox 2 years, I will post again and test to see if its changed. Why dont you go down to the M4, wait for an accident and tell the emergency services that "You dont do it like that" Bye from the man on the moon...........

That IS banter you knob! And thanks for the tip. I think I will pop down to J6. Then again, I may just avail myself to Wexham Park and point out where they are all going wrong...

You can take your Biatch Plymouth down with you, his tongue needs feeding

[Terminal Boardom]

You can take your Biatch Plymouth down with you, his tongue needs feeding

But PR DOES have a point. Even an old mangelwurzel like yourself should be able to recognise that...

[Ian Royal]

Selling club = club who develops players to sell.
For me there is a difference between that and us.

Crew, for example could definitely be considered a selling club. Consistently bringing youngsters through the ranks and selling them once they get experience and start proving their quality.

Reading on the other hand are merely buying and selling players. It is obvious that any relegated club which doesn't get promoted is going to go through a period of selling players for high prices and probably bringing in slightly lesser players for smaller fees.

That's just a case of obvious economics and has nothing to do with the whole nature and culture of the club. How we can be described as a selling club when we've only sold 4 of our better players in the last 5 years is beyond me.

I'd say we're pretty far from it to be honest. If we had been a selling club Sidwell would have gone when we got promoted, Doyle & SHunt would have gone last season or in January, probably with several of Harper, Hahnemann, Matejovsky and Bikey too.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Selling club not a giving away for pittence club IR

I get your point about the developing talent to sell vs selling players we bought in, but I dont see that as any difference when it comes to being a selling club, thats just a personal take on the definition though

If we werent a selling club we probably wouldnt have got rid of Hughes when a decent offer came in. We did our utmost to keep the Shoreys, Hunts and Doyles but at the end of the day they have a price tag (not a static one of course) that at some point the club will accept

[Sun Tzu]

We're no different to any club (and I mean ANY)

No players stay for ever, some come in cheap and leave expensive, some the reverse.

We had a batch of top players we got for next to nothing and the inevitable has happened and they have moved on (in many cases after staying here a lot longer than they would have done if we had been a 'selling' club. We kept Doyle a couple of years longer than we probably shoul dhave done, and probably lost money as a result. Same with Shorey, same with Hunt.

[Ian Royal]

Selling club not a giving away for pittence club IR

I get your point about the developing talent to sell vs selling players we bought in, but I dont see that as any difference when it comes to being a selling club, thats just a personal take on the definition though

If we werent a selling club we probably wouldnt have got rid of Hughes when a decent offer came in. We did our utmost to keep the Shoreys, Hunts and Doyles but at the end of the day they have a price tag (not a static one of course) that at some point the club will accept

Well if we're a selling club so are about 85 of the other football league clubs so it's a moot point.

So we don't hold onto all players until their contracts run out. How many players have we sold in recent times? Shorey, Doyle, Kitson, Sonko, Hughes, Halford, Seol, Fae... Two total flops, four following relegation and two we didn't want anymore.

And who said anything about selling for a pittance? I'm not talking about firesales. IIRC Crew have got some pretty tasty transfer fees for some of their players.

Selling clubs are those that sell players they want to keep as standard, not just after a relegation.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Exactly Ian, we are all selling clubs really

Hardly any club can hold onto their players really. Just look at United and Ronaldo

You dont think we wanted to keep Shorey or Sidwell?

As I think it was Dirk said earlier, its only now that we have players others want that we see us selling

I dont think we have really turned down any serious bids (not a pittence as per our valuations) in the last few years. If we did then you could say we arent as much of a selling club as we actually are

[Ian Royal]

If we're all selling clubs the definition has no meaning and is utterly worthless.

Or we're not a selling club and anyone who says we are is wrong.

We didn't sell Sidwell. For Shorey see the point about relegation.

Teams were interested in the likes of Sidwell for years before he left and we DIDN'T sell. Teams have been interested in Doyle, Shorey, SHunt etc and we didn't sell until we had to because of relegation issues.

[Forbury Lion]

Sadly there are only about 5 clubs in England these days who aren't selling clubs.

Man Utd isn't one of them.

[Southbank Old Boy]

If we're all selling clubs the definition has no meaning and is utterly worthless.

Or we're not a selling club and anyone who says we are is wrong.

We didn't sell Sidwell. For Shorey see the point about relegation.

Teams were interested in the likes of Sidwell for years before he left and we DIDN'T sell. Teams have been interested in Doyle, Shorey, SHunt etc and we didn't sell until we had to because of relegation issues.

We certainly didnt keep Sidwell though. From what I can remember I dont think we had any offers in for him because everyone knew he wanted to go on a free at the end of the season to keep all the money for himself

If that wasnt the case and we had an offer in then I reckon we probably wouldve taken the cash

I think the definition is a little bit of a grey area, and sure there a probably degrees of being a selling a club but the test of it is whether the club turns down serious offers for players

from what we know I dont think we have really turned down any serious offers over the last 5 years. If we did I would agree we arent as much of a selling club as perhaps some others

It reminds me of the '"I know my place" sketch with ronnie corbett and john clease though. It only has any impact when someone higher up wants your players

[Ian Royal]

Maybe our reputation as a non selling club puts off speculative bids. Or we head them off before they become more than enquiries.

I don't think we're going to agree you're wrong, so I'll stop.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Maybe our reputation as a non selling club puts off speculative bids. Or we head them off before they become more than enquiries.

I don't think we're going to agree you're wrong, so I'll stop.

fair enough, although its not just me that seems to be wrong but everyone else apart from you

[rhroyal]

Any club with Premiership players in the Championship will be a selling club. In reality every club is when they get good players. Not even Man Utd can keep all their best.

[Ian Royal]

Maybe our reputation as a non selling club puts off speculative bids. Or we head them off before they become more than enquiries.

I don't think we're going to agree you're wrong, so I'll stop.

fair enough, although its not just me that seems to be wrong but everyone else apart from you

Sadly the world is full of ignorance.

[Franchise FC]

Sadly there are only about 5 clubs in England these days who aren't selling clubs.

I seriously doubt there are five - even Man Utd are a selling club