Post QPR: Should Rodgers remain?

[Royal Lady]

A fitness issue for the best part of 10 games??

[loyalroyal4life]

I can see Mad making a SOS call to SSC to become manager until end of season

[WestCoast Life]

He's not quite a dead man walking but he needs something to happen for him sooner rather than later.

I'm all for giving people time, consistency, and i'm also more accepting than most that he started the job with one hand tied behind his back - we sold off most of our team at the end of last season (a team which didn't win a home game from Jan onwards). Even the performances earlier in the season weren't that bad, and I thought we just needed a bit of luck to get up into mid-table.

What I don't like is 1) the way he's started to blame the players - that's a bit out of line I think, and a sign that he's obviously trying to deflect attention away from himself to save his job, 2) the beatings are getting worse and we're becoming an increasingly poorer side rather than better and 3) his selection policy is perplexing. No Marek at all? Hunt (who's surely our best striker?) getting scraps of starts here and there.

Overall, i'd keep him but have a look again in a month's time.

I agree with the sentiment, but a months time could be too late (unless you want League 1 football next season). Personally I think Monday night will be his last stand. He has to win that game now, and I don't mean a flukey win, we need to see progress on the pitch.

[Royal Lady]

If he won't get rid of Rodgers, he needs to beg and plead with SC to come in and help him out.

[Royal_Belly]

A fitness issue for the best part of 10 games??

Well I wouldn't have dropped Ivar or O'Dea when Ivar has the experience that was needed in the back 4 and O'Dea who is clearly too good to be a Reading player!! But it looks like the defence are having a bit of a wobble now and It's all about fighting for your place... and now he has to prove that he's ready for it! Fingers crossed he his - he's not doing himself any harm by having a couple of goals against his name either!

[Royal_Belly]

You lot seriously need to let go of this whole SSC is our saviour bollocks!! He left for a reason - because he felt that he had taken this club as far as he could - he's not coming back!!

We've still got another 6 months left of the season!!

[Vision]

He's not quite a dead man walking but he needs something to happen for him sooner rather than later.

I'm all for giving people time, consistency, and i'm also more accepting than most that he started the job with one hand tied behind his back - we sold off most of our team at the end of last season (a team which didn't win a home game from Jan onwards). Even the performances earlier in the season weren't that bad, and I thought we just needed a bit of luck to get up into mid-table.

What I don't like is 1) the way he's started to blame the players - that's a bit out of line I think, and a sign that he's obviously trying to deflect attention away from himself to save his job, 2) the beatings are getting worse and we're becoming an increasingly poorer side rather than better and 3) his selection policy is perplexing. No Marek at all? Hunt (who's surely our best striker?) getting scraps of starts here and there.

Overall, i'd keep him but have a look again in a month's time.

I agree with the sentiment, but a months time could be too late (unless you want League 1 football next season). Personally I think Monday night will be his last stand. He has to win that game now, and I don't mean a flukey win, we need to see progress on the pitch.

I think Mags is spot on.

I find it quite puzzling though that a lot of those who are demanding his head now are saying it because they think it will take another manager 30 games to stop us being relegated even though we're not in the bottom 3 now despite how badly we've played.

If Rodgers is the sole reason we're in this mess then surely any manager worth his salt should be able to turn it around in half a season. If not then theres a bit more than the incompetence of the manager at play.

If the rebuilding job isn't as easy as that then why is Rodgers being judged after 13 games whilst someone who the fans would consider far superior have to come in now or we'll be relegated.?

Not having a pop I'm just curious to know the logic?

[Ups and Downs]

Word from behind the scenes is that the club is in a complete shambles; the board think Rodgers is far too leniant on the players and Madejski is losing the plot. The financial statement the released a few weeks back was never supposed to see the light of day because it simply wasn't accurate and it's JM's fault it was sent out. Apparently the directors are furious about it, so says my mole.

[Maguire]

If he won't get rid of Rodgers, he needs to beg and plead with SC to come in and help him out.

SC to come in and help him win a home game?

Oh...

[rhroyal]

Are you on drugs????

Look at the history of our club. Very rarely has a manager been given so much money to spend on transfers, yet he went and spent it on SHIT players. He WASTED the money.

Cummings, Howard, Rasiak - three reasons to sack the manager.
Mills - possibly another reason to sack him.

He wasn't given three million to strenghten the squad, he had what, £15million's worth of players taken off him then given 3million to build on the rubble of the squad.

I've explained this many times. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE COULD HAVE KEPT DOYLE, HUNT AND BIKEY IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THERE IS NO WAY LITA WOULD HAVE SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT. MURTY, DOOBS AND MARCUS WERE ALL OVER THE HILL FOR US.

Madejski sold off the silver because he had to - there's no way you can keep Doyle playing in the Championship for two seasons when somebody makes a £6.5mill bid. Similar with Bikey's bid too. We all wanted Hunt out, he wasn't interested in us any more.

As it was we had a squad for Rodgers to take over with the likes of Tabb, Matejovsky, Ivar, Rosenior, Harper, Nunt and Long, all players who would have a role with most squads in this division. Kebe would get into at least half the teams in this league just because he is devastating on his day. I would add Armstrong but he's never been fit. He then had some of our most promising academy players in a long time, such as Karacan and The Sig. He also had Davies who looked very good in pre-season and against Nottm Forest but was then dropped without explanation. In goal he had Federici who many on here wanted in the team last season and Hamer who is a very promising keeper. He then had Alex Pearce, a very promising centre back with Championship experience and HRK and Henry as two hyped up youngsters who were yet to produce the goods.

I should then add that Rodgers worked with these players when they were younger and should have been the ideal man to bring the best out of them. On top of all this he had pre-season to assess his squad and see where he wanted to strengthen it. He was also managing Reading, a club perceived as being well run and well placed at this level. There are only 4 or 5 Championship clubs who we'd have lost out to in the transfer market back in June and July. He promptly spent over £3mill and made two loan signings from bigger clubs, possibly on higher wages than some clubs at this level can afford. It was his choice to offload two of our more experienced pros too. I haven't even mentioned the Tommy Smith shambles.

I tell you now, give Sean O'Driscoll, Ian Holloway, Gary Johnson or indeed a lot of other championship managers this squad and resources, not to mention pre-season to mark their squad, and they will be rubbing their hands together with glee. It was a time of transition for this club and not many of us were expecting a promotion push. The reality is though that a competent manager appointed when Rodgers was would not have had much trouble guiding us to mid table.

That's why I get annoyed when people blame Madejski. It was Coppell who chose to spend in 07/08 whilst we're on the topic, and the club made a real attempt at winning promotion back last season. This club is being well run at the top, it is the manager who is the problem.

[Schards#2]

If he won't get rid of Rodgers, he needs to beg and plead with SC to come in and help him out.

SC to come in and help him win a home game?

Oh...

Our current home record 0-3-3

Our home record at this stage last season 6-0-0

[Maguire]

Are you on drugs????

Look at the history of our club. Very rarely has a manager been given so much money to spend on transfers, yet he went and spent it on SHIT players. He WASTED the money.

Cummings, Howard, Rasiak - three reasons to sack the manager.
Mills - possibly another reason to sack him.

He wasn't given three million to strenghten the squad, he had what, £15million's worth of players taken off him then given 3million to build on the rubble of the squad.

I've explained this many times. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE COULD HAVE KEPT DOYLE, HUNT AND BIKEY IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THERE IS NO WAY LITA WOULD HAVE SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT. MURTY, DOOBS AND MARCUS WERE ALL OVER THE HILL FOR US.

Madejski sold off the silver because he had to - there's no way you can keep Doyle playing in the Championship for two seasons when somebody makes a £6.5mill bid. Similar with Bikey's bid too. We all wanted Hunt out, he wasn't interested in us any more.

I don't need you to explain anything to me - nothing you say in CAPITALS is contrary to anything I said in my post.

[rhroyal]

You lot seriously need to let go of this whole SSC is our saviour bollocks!! He left for a reason - because he felt that he had taken this club as far as he could - he's not coming back!!

We've still got another 6 months left of the season!!

Coppell's team had taken the club as far as it could. Coppell needed a break from football, maybe he was experienced from fatigue or something. The truth is that if he feels he wants to take the task on again we could do so much worse. He will be forced to start a new era and part with the 05/06 nostalgia and hopefully he'll feel refreshed, passionate and up for the task again after these past few months. He also understands the club and will be able to inspire confidence with the players simply with his presence after his past record here. I say bring him back.

[Vision]

SC to come in and help him win a home game?

Oh...

Our current home record 0-3-3

Our home record at this stage last season 6-0-0

Coppell's last 6 home games..

0-2-4

[tee peg]

If he won't get rid of Rodgers, he needs to beg and plead with SC to come in and help him out.

SC to come in and help him win a home game?

Oh...

I had a chat with S C at the skittles evening and asked him why he wasnt playing the youngsters.Not good enough was the reply.
Rodgers has a squad that will do ok in league 1, where many of them have been out on loan.You can change the manager but
you will still be left with a squad that are trying to punch above their weight.

[Maguire]

If he won't get rid of Rodgers, he needs to beg and plead with SC to come in and help him out.

SC to come in and help him win a home game?

Oh...

Our current home record 0-3-3

Our home record at this stage last season 6-0-0

More pertinently, what was it like say, from Feb 1st onwards?

I'll give you a clue, it starts 0-something.

[Schards#2]

Obviously, it's a misleading and selective statistic, however, it makes the pointy that Coppell has a track record that includes considerable success. Rodgers doesn't and, I would bet, never will after this episode.

[Tredder]

Curbishley.

[Dave Gale]

Our home record at this stage last season 6-0-0

I know you're using this stat to back up how he might do a better job but reading that record brings it all back how well we did early doors, to then just miss out and not make it by a point or whatever it was. The initial foundation was so big, that it was a monumental mess up of the next 6 months or so. I'd only just supressed that from my memory. Adds another layer to my depression!!

[Schards#2]

Our home record at this stage last season 6-0-0

I know you're using this stat to back up how he might do a better job but reading that record brings it all back how well we did early doors, to then just miss out and not make it by a point or whatever it was. The initial foundation was so big, that it was a monumental mess up of the next 6 months or so. I'd only just supressed that from my memory. Adds another layer to my depression!!

It belongs to a distant era when going to games seemed worthwhile rather than an obligation. Though TBF it must be nigh on two years since I was last looking forward to going to games though.