Pre-season games 2022/2023

[Hound]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

[Millsy]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

[Hound]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

They may have air conditioned stadium insides and changing rooms etc though

The players’ll be fine. I was just musing whether it’s actually worth playing it. How much will be gained cf to additional recovery needed etc

Do also have to keep in mind supporter and ground staff safety, even though it’s low numbers.

[Coppells Lost Coat]

These the same professional footballers who had water breaks during Brazil WC?
Its just a friendly. Lets not risk it or at least postpone to a later time.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

I read that Qatar are using air conditioned stadiums to help ease the heat during games and to make it more bearable for players and supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if this technology already exists in countries where the heat does make a significant difference.

This is a couple of days in one summer for us, other countries have it this hot throughout all of summer, just look at how wildfires are ripping through certain areas of more southern European countries for example.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

I read that Qatar are using air conditioned stadiums to help ease the heat during games and to make it more bearable for players and supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if this technology already exists in countries where the heat does make a significant difference.

This is a couple of days in one summer for us, other countries have it this hot throughout all of summer, just look at how wildfires are ripping through certain areas of more southern European countries for example.

Pretty sure AFC Wimbledon had air con installed last summer, so shouldn't be an issue.

[Hound]

Don’t think 30c at 8pm in the evening is typical in any European country during footy season is it? Maybe Seville

[Snowflake Royal]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

40° is too hot anywhere.

[Millsy]

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

I read that Qatar are using air conditioned stadiums to help ease the heat during games and to make it more bearable for players and supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if this technology already exists in countries where the heat does make a significant difference.

This is a couple of days in one summer for us, other countries have it this hot throughout all of summer, just look at how wildfires are ripping through certain areas of more southern European countries for example.

Pretty sure AFC Wimbledon had air con installed last summer, so shouldn't be an issue.

These multimillion £ stadiums in the UK don't have some sort of aircon in changing rooms? My workplace has, and even my badroom has. It's not exactly exotic tech although most people don't have it in their homes but thats a different discussion as I say.

As for Qatar, that's a special case they're building anew for the whole world and all its softies like us to get the bid/ pressure by softies. Stadiums across Africa/ Asia/ South America are lucky to have grass in many cases let alone airconditioned pitches!

They simply man up.

[Stranded]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

I read that Qatar are using air conditioned stadiums to help ease the heat during games and to make it more bearable for players and supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if this technology already exists in countries where the heat does make a significant difference.

This is a couple of days in one summer for us, other countries have it this hot throughout all of summer, just look at how wildfires are ripping through certain areas of more southern European countries for example.

Pretty sure AFC Wimbledon had air con installed last summer, so shouldn't be an issue.

These multimillion £ stadiums in the UK don't have some sort of aircon in changing rooms? My workplace has, and even my badroom has. It's not exactly exotic tech although most people don't have it in their homes but thats a different discussion as I say.

As for Qatar, that's a special case they're building anew for the whole world and all its softies like us to get the bid/ pressure by softies. Stadiums across Africa/ Asia/ South America are lucky to have grass in many cases let alone airconditioned pitches!

They simply man up.

I'm not talking about the changing rooms obviously, I'm talking about pitch side or seating areas.

They are used to it though in those countries anyway, they adapt. I'm pretty sure if you ask an African footballer to come and play during our winter months, they could complain and be called "soft". Surely you've heard the "they can't do it on a cold, windy night in Stoke" cliché?

A lot of floor in Italy is tiled for example, so the floors do not become as warm as they would with carpet/wood flooring. There are measures in place that we don't simply have.

[Millsy]

Aww too hot. I hope nobody is reading these forums from (insert any country other than England/scandy countries). It's just embarrassing.

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

[bcubed]

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

But not if it snows a lot...

[Snowflake Royal]

40° is too hot anywhere.

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're not soft, we're adapted to our environment, you doofus.

Do you expect us softies to just man up and run properly at altitude without acclimatisation and specific training?

[Hound]

Tbf we are great at handling damp cloudy weather with the temp hovering at about 12c

[Millsy]

We get 1 or 2 days over 40c per year here, it is absolutely fcuking horrific. Literally walking to the end of the road feels like running a marathon, and that is with a dry heat - add any humidity to it and the air feels like a wall. It is horrible and anyone trying to downgrade it to "it's just summer", can take a seat (not in the shade) and shut it.

Some countries that have those temperatures regularly have built infrastructure to cope i.e. everything is air conned or even moves underground but the key thing is, in countries where it is regularly hotter than 40c, people don't go outside unless they need to. Life shifts later in the day than it does in the UK i.e. dinner is at 10pm not between 5 and 7pm.

But I know for a fact people play football matches in very hot conditions with stadiums far far less capable than ours.

I accept we have a humid heat, which isn't as nice but we're not the only humid country.

We should just face the fact that we are relatively soft and move on. On the flip side we can deal with the cold much better.

We're not soft, we're adapted to our environment, you doofus.

Do you expect us softies to just man up and run properly at altitude without acclimatisation and specific training?

That's a world apart. Different oxygen levels. This is just a bit hot for comfort.

I weight train in my blisteringly hot home 'gym', water dripping off me constantly, but I get through it. I wouldn't dream of altitude stuff though.

[Lower West]

Tell that to the couple of thousand expecting to die from it

It’s not like we are especially soft just the country isn’t set up for it. Buildings designed to retain heat etc

I get that and is not what I'm talking about.

We're talking here about professional footballers playing on a field. What does most of the rest of the world do in worse conditions most of the time? They don't have airconditioned football fields

I read that Qatar are using air conditioned stadiums to help ease the heat during games and to make it more bearable for players and supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if this technology already exists in countries where the heat does make a significant difference.

This is a couple of days in one summer for us, other countries have it this hot throughout all of summer, just look at how wildfires are ripping through certain areas of more southern European countries for example.

In Qatar there's the added problem of sand storms.

[Millsy]

Pretty sure AFC Wimbledon had air con installed last summer, so shouldn't be an issue.

These multimillion £ stadiums in the UK don't have some sort of aircon in changing rooms? My workplace has, and even my badroom has. It's not exactly exotic tech although most people don't have it in their homes but thats a different discussion as I say.

As for Qatar, that's a special case they're building anew for the whole world and all its softies like us to get the bid/ pressure by softies. Stadiums across Africa/ Asia/ South America are lucky to have grass in many cases let alone airconditioned pitches!

They simply man up.

I'm not talking about the changing rooms obviously, I'm talking about pitch side or seating areas.

They are used to it though in those countries anyway, they adapt. I'm pretty sure if you ask an African footballer to come and play during our winter months, they could complain and be called "soft". Surely you've heard the "they can't do it on a cold, windy night in Stoke" cliché?

A lot of floor in Italy is tiled for example, so the floors do not become as warm as they would with carpet/wood flooring. There are measures in place that we don't simply have.

Adapt/man up/ whatever you want to call it. I don't see Africans refusing to play in our damp winter months. They wear gloves and man up.

Tiled floors in house etc again as I say totally irrelevant. Footy grounds around the world are just footy grounds and barely have grass let alone whatever fancy mechanism we think a handful of the richest clubs might have. They certainly don't have tiled pitches! I know people from abroad who would play with bare feet kicking potatoes around in the dust in blistering heat.

We just need to bear in mind we are incredibly privileged here. Lovely temperate climate, never too hot, never too cold. Not to mention no one has changed regimes, invaded, applied sanctions (Brexit self-inflicted of course so doesn't count) etc etc. We have it the easiest we possibly could, so when we start complaining that it's a bit too hot it's just embarrassing that's all.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

These multimillion £ stadiums in the UK don't have some sort of aircon in changing rooms? My workplace has, and even my badroom has. It's not exactly exotic tech although most people don't have it in their homes but thats a different discussion as I say.

As for Qatar, that's a special case they're building anew for the whole world and all its softies like us to get the bid/ pressure by softies. Stadiums across Africa/ Asia/ South America are lucky to have grass in many cases let alone airconditioned pitches!

They simply man up.

I'm not talking about the changing rooms obviously, I'm talking about pitch side or seating areas.

They are used to it though in those countries anyway, they adapt. I'm pretty sure if you ask an African footballer to come and play during our winter months, they could complain and be called "soft". Surely you've heard the "they can't do it on a cold, windy night in Stoke" cliché?

A lot of floor in Italy is tiled for example, so the floors do not become as warm as they would with carpet/wood flooring. There are measures in place that we don't simply have.

Adapt/man up/ whatever you want to call it. I don't see Africans refusing to play in our damp winter months. They wear gloves and man up.

Tiled floors in house etc again as I say totally irrelevant. Footy grounds around the world are just footy grounds and barely have grass let alone whatever fancy mechanism we think a handful of the richest clubs might have. They certainly don't have tiled pitches! I know people from abroad who would play with bare feet kicking potatoes around in the dust in blistering heat.

We just need to bear in mind we are incredibly privileged here. Lovely temperate climate, never too hot, never too cold. Not to mention no one has changed regimes, invaded, applied sanctions (Brexit self-inflicted of course so doesn't count) etc etc. We have it the easiest we possibly could, so when we start complaining that it's a bit too hot it's just embarrassing that's all.

No but I bet they would be complaining if there was snow on the ground on a gameday though as well, it's simply one extreme to the other, nothing different.

As has been mentioned, it's all about adaptation. You're not wrong, we are in much better shape than most other countries around the world, but it's not about being soft, it's about being uncomfortable in an environment we are not used to. It's the same when people visit places that are extremely cold/extremely warm and it is different to what they are used to, completely normal if you ask me.

[Millsy]

I'm not talking about the changing rooms obviously, I'm talking about pitch side or seating areas.

They are used to it though in those countries anyway, they adapt. I'm pretty sure if you ask an African footballer to come and play during our winter months, they could complain and be called "soft". Surely you've heard the "they can't do it on a cold, windy night in Stoke" cliché?

A lot of floor in Italy is tiled for example, so the floors do not become as warm as they would with carpet/wood flooring. There are measures in place that we don't simply have.

Adapt/man up/ whatever you want to call it. I don't see Africans refusing to play in our damp winter months. They wear gloves and man up.

Tiled floors in house etc again as I say totally irrelevant. Footy grounds around the world are just footy grounds and barely have grass let alone whatever fancy mechanism we think a handful of the richest clubs might have. They certainly don't have tiled pitches! I know people from abroad who would play with bare feet kicking potatoes around in the dust in blistering heat.

We just need to bear in mind we are incredibly privileged here. Lovely temperate climate, never too hot, never too cold. Not to mention no one has changed regimes, invaded, applied sanctions (Brexit self-inflicted of course so doesn't count) etc etc. We have it the easiest we possibly could, so when we start complaining that it's a bit too hot it's just embarrassing that's all.

No but I bet they would be complaining if there was snow on the ground on a gameday though as well, it's simply one extreme to the other, nothing different.

As has been mentioned, it's all about adaptation. You're not wrong, we are in much better shape than most other countries around the world, but it's not about being soft, it's about being uncomfortable in an environment we are not used to. It's the same when people visit places that are extremely cold/extremely warm and it is different to what they are used to, completely normal if you ask me.

I wouldn't play on snow as I'd skid I bet my wife would though. Both white but she's a nordic elf type of being. Seriously she looks like she's dying if the temp is anything over 15degC but is totally happy with crazy cold temps. Weirdo.