Back from the forest game

[winchester_royal]

TBH I didn't think there was a huge amount wrong with the performance. However there is 1 crucial area where we are failing, and that is out on the wings, Shunt's delivery at the moment, both from set plays and open play was crap, whilst Kebe looks demotivated.

Oh how nice it was when Tabb came on and we saw a winger who could both beat players and cross. Tabb, BK and Karacan to start on Tuesday please SSC.

[PEARCEY]

Agreed. LoL at Poohs Pure.

did you go today?[/quote]


Yes. Why?

Oh and I dont comment on these specific threads unless I go to the game.
By the way its not for you to dictate who should comment on these threads either.

[poohs pure]

Agreed. LoL at Poohs Pure.

did you go today?

Yes. Why?

Oh and I dont comment on these specific threads unless I go to the game.
By the way its not for you to dictate who should comment on these threads either.[/quote]

didnt notice you today

[PEARCEY]

TBH I didn't think there was a huge amount wrong with the performance. However there is 1 crucial area where we are failing, and that is out on the wings, Shunt's delivery at the moment, both from set plays and open play was crap, whilst Kebe looks demotivated.

Oh how nice it was when Tabb came on and we saw a winger who could both beat players and cross. Tabb, BK and Karacan to start on Tuesday please SSC.

Nailed on about the wingplay. Kebe and Rosenior are not linking as well as they were earlier on in the season.
You have to give Forest credit. In the second half they coped very comfortably and even in the last 10 minutes of sustained aerial bombardment won the crucial headers

[CMRoyal]

Really good first half, the best for quite a while. Defence was solid, Rosey getting forward well; Gunnar was having a blinder, Marek pinging the ball hither and indeed thither, nearly always to feet or into space for people to run into; SHunt was buzzing, not quite at his best but looking good; and Doyler and NHunt were battling away up front. Kebe was poor, though, lacking in confidence and should have done much better very early on when left on his own in the box. A goal then would have settled us and Forest's lack of confidence early on would have meant that we would have destroyed them. But we were timid in the final third, players over-elaborating and scared to take chances. Gunnar had a header just over, there might have been a hand ball or even foul for a penalty. The only plus for Forest was their big number 5, a rock who got in the way of everything.

Then came the second half and with it a lack of energy, increased nervousness, less accuracy in the passing, and what became an inevitable sucker punch. All of a sudden Matejovsky looked lightweight, SHunt was back up the blind alleys, NHunt and Doyle forgot how to release the ball on time, Gunnar was left to shore everything up and Kebe was completely and utterly bereft of confidence. Lita, Tabb and Cisse came on for Stretch, Kebe and Bryn to absolutely negligible effect.

We really shouldn't be losing 1-0 at home to a team like that but the team's lost all confidence, and the longer we go without scoring in matches the more we look like almost committing suicide defensively. Like some have been saying for a few weeks, it's just like 04-05 and 07-08 all over again. We need a spawny early goal on Tuesday to arrest the slide. Can't believe the luck we're getting with scores elsewhere.

Marks:-

Fed - 7 (not sure, but could he have done better on the goal?)
Rosy - 7 (a bit of an improvement on recent performances)
Doobs - 7 (solid enough)
Pearce - 7 (should have closed down the scorer, but apart from that very good)
Stretch - 7 (Mr Consistency)
Kebe - 5 (confidence completely shot)
Matejovsky - 7 (excellent in the first half, ineffective in the second)
Gunnar - 8 (barely put a foot wrong)
S Hunt - 7 (starting to get back into form, but deadball delivery poor)
N Hunt - 6 (battled away to no great effect)
Doyle - 6 (OK, but wasn't releasing the ball quickly enough, maybe due to a lack of confidence in his team-mates)

[PEARCEY]

Agreed. LoL at Poohs Pure.

did you go today?

Yes. Why?

Oh and I dont comment on these specific threads unless I go to the game.
By the way its not for you to dictate who should comment on these threads either.

didnt notice you today[/quote]


LoL....Like you know what I look like.
PS Didn't notice you either.
Now give up pal. It was a piss poor today. We all know that and changes have to be made. This hit it and hope style of play isn't good enough.

[winchester_royal]

TBH I didn't think there was a huge amount wrong with the performance. However there is 1 crucial area where we are failing, and that is out on the wings, Shunt's delivery at the moment, both from set plays and open play was crap, whilst Kebe looks demotivated.

Oh how nice it was when Tabb came on and we saw a winger who could both beat players and cross. Tabb, BK and Karacan to start on Tuesday please SSC.

Nailed on about the wingplay. Kebe and Rosenior are not linking as well as they were earlier on in the season.
You have to give Forest credit. In the second half they coped very comfortably and even in the last 10 minutes of sustained aerial bombardment won the crucial headers

Well 'aerial bombarment' doesn't work unless you have a striker bigger than 5'9. Particuarly when you have defenders as big as strong as the ones Forest had out today.

[poohs pure]

LoL....Like you know what I look like.
PS Didn't notice you either.
Now give up pal. It was a piss poor today. We all know that and changes have to be made. This hit it and hope style of play isn't good enough.[/quote]

tall bloke, curly teeth, t with snowball on it?

[Dirk Gently]

TBH I didn't think there was a huge amount wrong with the performance. However there is 1 crucial area where we are failing, and that is out on the wings, Shunt's delivery at the moment, both from set plays and open play was crap, whilst Kebe looks demotivated.

See my comment from page 1 :

Certainly it is a lot to do with tactics. other teams put 5 in the middle, and as soon as the ball goes out to either SHunt or Kebe the spare man in midfield joins the full-back in shutting them out of the game.

That's why we're so ineffective and that's why SHunt and Kebe are getting so much abuse.

But how do we counter it? All we could do is put 5 in midfield ourselves and play through the middle, but I'm not sure we have the players for that.

[papereyes]

How does that influence SHunt's delivery from set pieces?

[PEARCEY]

Really good first half, the best for quite a while. Defence was solid, Rosey getting forward well; Gunnar was having a blinder, Marek pinging the ball hither and indeed thither, nearly always to feet or into space for people to run into; SHunt was buzzing, not quite at his best but looking good; and Doyler and NHunt were battling away up front. Kebe was poor, though, lacking in confidence and should have done much better very early on when left on his own in the box. A goal then would have settled us and Forest's lack of confidence early on would have meant that we would have destroyed them. But we were timid in the final third, players over-elaborating and scared to take chances. Gunnar had a header just over, there might have been a hand ball or even foul for a penalty. The only plus for Forest was their big number 5, a rock who got in the way of everything.

Then came the second half and with it a lack of energy, increased nervousness, less accuracy in the passing, and what became an inevitable sucker punch. All of a sudden Matejovsky looked lightweight, SHunt was back up the blind alleys, NHunt and Doyle forgot how to release the ball on time, Gunnar was left to shore everything up and Kebe was completely and utterly bereft of confidence. Lita, Tabb and Cisse came on for Stretch, Kebe and Bryn to absolutely negligible effect.

We really shouldn't be losing 1-0 at home to a team like that but the team's lost all confidence, and the longer we go without scoring in matches the more we look like almost committing suicide defensively. Like some have been saying for a few weeks, it's just like 04-05 and 07-08 all over again. We need a spawny early goal on Tuesday to arrest the slide. Can't believe the luck we're getting with scores elsewhere.

Marks:-

Fed - 7 (not sure, but could he have done better on the goal?)
Rosy - 7 (a bit of an improvement on recent performances)
Doobs - 7 (solid enough)
Pearce - 7 (should have closed down the scorer, but apart from that very good)
Stretch - 7 (Mr Consistency)
Kebe - 5 (confidence completely shot)
Matejovsky - 7 (excellent in the first half, ineffective in the second)
Gunnar - 8 (barely put a foot wrong)
S Hunt - 7 (starting to get back into form, but deadball delivery poor)
N Hunt - 6 (battled away to no great effect)
Doyle - 6 (OK, but wasn't releasing the ball quickly enough, maybe due to a lack of confidence in his team-mates)

Very generous marks particularly for Gunnar. Fair play he showed some neat touhe but he was drifting out of the game in the second half. Surely he is someone who should come on to shore things up in the second half and no start matches.

I would also question Fed on that goal as the shot wasn't struck with much power. Agree that the Forest player should have been closed down by Pearce who otherwise played well. Pearce can certainly head a ball.
Thought Feds could also have done a Cardiff and gone into the penalty box in the last 5 minutes although he nearly got caught out in limbo on the half way line.

[winchester_royal]

TBH I didn't think there was a huge amount wrong with the performance. However there is 1 crucial area where we are failing, and that is out on the wings, Shunt's delivery at the moment, both from set plays and open play was crap, whilst Kebe looks demotivated.

See my comment from page 1 :

Certainly it is a lot to do with tactics. other teams put 5 in the middle, and as soon as the ball goes out to either SHunt or Kebe the spare man in midfield joins the full-back in shutting them out of the game.

That's why we're so ineffective and that's why SHunt and Kebe are getting so much abuse.

But how do we counter it? All we could do is put 5 in midfield ourselves and play through the middle, but I'm not sure we have the players for that.

Well you say that, but both got in a number of good positions today and fecked it up. Kebe never looks up before crossing, so it would need a huge slice of luck for one of his crosses to actually arive at a RFC player, whilst the is something very up with SHunt's crossing. Tabb showed what can happen with a bit of class, he only got one chance to put a cross in, but it was an excellent cross, and caused the Forest defence more problems, than the other two wingers had caused them all day.

[PEARCEY]

LoL....Like you know what I look like.
PS Didn't notice you either.
Now give up pal. It was a piss poor today. We all know that and changes have to be made. This hit it and hope style of play isn't good enough.

tall bloke, curly teeth, t with snowball on it?[/quote]

Umm not quite. Small chap with 6 year old son in the North stand. B17.Row G. Seats 135 and 136 but thanks for your concern though.

[Southbank Old Boy]

The tactics issue there is a bit of a smokescreen for players cocking up when in good positions

Maybe thats because they just arnt good enough, maybe its a bit of a confidence issue, maybe the pitch is making it difficult for them

At the end of the day we just dont pass the ball well enough when it matters and we dont have the players to win the battle in the middle of the park. Since Sidwell left Coppell has failed to replace him and that means the rest of the team are out of kilter when the going gets tough

[LUX]

RTG infiltrator here.

just got back too, first home game of the season
Kept a low profile in the Upper West.

Good first half indeed, but Kebe had a nightmare and it was kindness to take him off.

I don't remember any chances for us at all in the second half.

See you next season in the Premiership.

[Woodcote Royal]

We could have done with Subbing Bryn at half time. I thought he was great in the frist half, but the guy just doesnt have the legs for more than about 60mins

Agreed- subbed about 20 minutes too late when we'd already lost the initiative and momentum of the first half.

Woodcote is going to be highly creative to pin this one on Lita. He'll probably still try, though.

Just as before, I blame Coppell.

[North Somerset Royal]

RTG infiltrator here.

just got back too, first home game of the season
Kept a low profile in the Upper West.

Good first half indeed, but Kebe had a nightmare and it was kindness to take him off.

I don't remember any chances for us at all in the second half.

See you next season in the Premiership.

Only someone who had not been to the previous 5 games could possibly remain a RTG. In fact I thought our first half performance today was the best since Watford. However once again when things started to go wrong in the second half our management team were too slow to react. Worryingly according to SC on BBCRB he only pulled Kebe off because of an injury. If SC could not see that one change that was crying out to be made was Tabb for Kebe than he must be an RTG too!

[SteveRoyal]

Maybe we should try Harding and Tabb on the wings from the off?

[Man Friday]

Why the fcuk was our goal disallowed?

I blame Kebe - how the fcuk did he miss the chance? It would have completely changed the game.

The backs were superb. As good as the wingers were dreadful. Thought Fed was slow to get down ala Carling Cup Vs Man U.

Bring Henry back.

I really can't see us scoring ever again.

I'm even more pised of than last week.

I really hope Forest go down - time-wasting cheats.

Good fcuking night!

[The 17 Bus]

. Worryingly according to SC on BBCRB he only pulled Kebe off because of an injury.

do you actually believe that??