Are we now a selling club?

[West Stand Man]

This morning we are a selling club, soon we may be a buying club, and then we'll sell again. Its called business.

[loyalroyal4life]

i doubt there is a 70% sell on clause for cox and no one can say the club were not right to sell doyle for that price

[Dirk Gently]

I think there's only 1 club at the moment who aren't a selling club - and that's Newcastle. They'd love to be - but their players are on such good deals none of are likley to agree to be sold.

Apart from them, every club sells - it's the way football works.

All it takes is for a offer to be recieved that is seen by a player's club to be worth more than they think the player is worth. Hardly rocket science.

[West Stand Man]

no one can say the club were not right to sell doyle for that price

Well they can, but they'd be wrong.

[bigmike]

Its a great price just a shame that the money is not goign to be invested in buying a replacement

[Franchise FC]

Its a great price just a shame that the money is not goign to be invested in buying a replacement

Tell me I'm stupid but if we were to invest the money in a replacement, why wouldn't we simply have held onto the one we had (notwithstanding the release clause in his contract). I assume we'll spend less than 20% of the money in replacements, but that doesn't mean that the team as a whole will be any less sucessful, just that we need to unearth a couple (AGAIN !!)

[bigmike]

Its a great price just a shame that the money is not goign to be invested in buying a replacement

Tell me I'm stupid but if we were to invest the money in a replacement, why wouldn't we simply have held onto the one we had (notwithstanding the release clause in his contract). I assume we'll spend less than 20% of the money in replacements, but that doesn't mean that the team as a whole will be any less sucessful, just that we need to unearth a couple (AGAIN !!)

I guess i am just a little peeved with the lack of investment recently..

Lack of investment in new players is one of the major factors in reading being relegated. IMO its not just one player we need to take in to strengthen the team after 2 full seasons we still have not replaced Sidwell.

[rg6royal]

Just cus we sell a player doesn't mean we are a selling club. Doyle is a Premiership player and I think everyone knows that.

[Sun Tzu]

Lack of investment in new players is one of the major factors in reading being relegated. IMO its not just one player we need to take in to strengthen the team after 2 full seasons we still have not replaced Sidwell.

Didn't we break our club transfer record to replace Sidwell ?

We've spent a fair amount of money on players, probably more than enough to have survived.

Sadly the players we spent money on were unable to perform to the required level.

The investement was made on the wrong players and I strongly suspect we could have spent LESS money in the last 2 seasons and had a stronger squad.

[Terminal Boardom]

Clubs buy / recruit players

Clubs sell / release players

It is what happens

Reading FC are no different to any other club and will be no different to any other club in this regard.

Kevin Doyle' departure is no different to Andy Johnson's move from Palace to Everton. Both played one season in the CCC after relegation from the Premiership.

I really don't understand all the hand wringing and head shaking going on. To expect a top class player like KD to stay with us for the entirety of his career is either naive or shortsighted.

I fully expect us to unearth aother gem in time and no doubt he will be snaffled by another club. Things like this happen.

[Berry]

I was wrong by 30% apologies.

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Several clubs want him, minimum £2.5 million, let them have a bidding war. We're going to lose 40% anyway and we'll need as much as we can get to replace him with a player of any kind of decent standard.

You don't get much of a player for £1million any more. Especially one that's in form and can score upwards of 20 goals. And thats what Swindon need to get out of League 1.

[Terminal Boardom]

I was wrong by 30% apologies.

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Several clubs want him, minimum £2.5 million, let them have a bidding war. We're going to lose 40% anyway and we'll need as much as we can get to replace him with a player of any kind of decent standard.

You don't get much of a player for £1million any more. Especially one that's in form and can score upwards of 20 goals. And thats what Swindon need to get out of League 1.

More like what the inbreds need just to stay in league 1. Without Cox's goals last season, they would have been relegated.

[PEARCEY]

Lack of investment in new players is one of the major factors in reading being relegated. IMO its not just one player we need to take in to strengthen the team after 2 full seasons we still have not replaced Sidwell.

Didn't we break our club transfer record to replace Sidwell ?

We've spent a fair amount of money on players, probably more than enough to have survived.

Sadly the players we spent money on were unable to perform to the required level.

The investement was made on the wrong players and I strongly suspect we could have spent LESS money in the last 2 seasons and had a stronger squad.

I suspect we spent less on new players in our two years in the Premiership than any other team in the Premiership during those years or since. Even Coppell admitted to the failure to properly strengthen in summer 2007. Surely you cannot deny that?

[Ian Royal]

failing to strengthern properly is not being denied, seeing as that is covered by our buying badly.

Our first season is not really that relevant as we didn't NEED to strengthern much then as shown by 8th.

so really you are looking at the bad, or certainly not good spending of roughly £6m. Increased by the poor spend on Halford the January before. Albeit offset by his sale. I guess the £6m is also offset by Seol going out. So roughly £5m net in one season. I think you could probably find clubs who'd done similar or lower net sales quite easily.

Oh and so you know how I arrived at that figure.
Bikey - ~£1m
Fae - ~£2.5m
Rosenior - ~£1m
Matejovksy - ~£1m
Kebe - ~£500k

Oh, and Pearcey that time covers a massive one year extra... huuuuuuuuuge time span.

[PEARCEY]

failing to strengthern properly is not being denied, seeing as that is covered by our buying badly.

Our first season is not really that relevant as we didn't NEED to strengthern much then as shown by 8th.

so really you are looking at the bad, or certainly not good spending of roughly £6m. Increased by the poor spend on Halford the January before. Albeit offset by his sale. I guess the £6m is also offset by Seol going out. So roughly £5m net in one season. I think you could probably find clubs who'd done similar or lower net sales quite easily.

Oh and so you know how I arrived at that figure.
Bikey - ~£1m
Fae - ~£2.5m
Rosenior - ~£1m
Matejovksy - ~£1m
Kebe - ~£500k

Oh, and Pearcey that time covers a massive one year extra... huuuuuuuuuge time span.

....and Wolves have just spent more than that on one player!

[Southbank Old Boy]

failing to strengthern properly is not being denied, seeing as that is covered by our buying badly.

Our first season is not really that relevant as we didn't NEED to strengthern much then as shown by 8th.

Disagree that we didnt need to strengthen

We needed to start bringing in and bedding in those players to keep the promotion squad on thier toes and replace them - we knew Sidwell was leaving, anyone with half a brain knew Little was living on borrowed time, and we were lucky that for 18 months Sonko and Ivar hardly missed a game

Not covering for the gaps that where appearing was a mistake, and one that was compounded by are lack of investment

The signings we did make were gambles taken on the relative cheap. Fae and Cisse to replace Sidwell might have been fine IF we had bought them in the summer before and bedded them into the squad. As it was we werent prepared to spend enough money to get a immediate replacement for Sidwell once waiting for him to leave

We basically did the same with Shorey when he left, but unfortunately we were in the league below and so replacing him was less of a task, and it looks like we are doing the same with Hunt now

[PEARCEY]

failing to strengthern properly is not being denied, seeing as that is covered by our buying badly.

Our first season is not really that relevant as we didn't NEED to strengthern much then as shown by 8th.

Disagree that we didnt need to strengthen

We needed to start bringing in and bedding in those players to keep the promotion squad on thier toes and replace them - we knew Sidwell was leaving, anyone with half a brain knew Little was living on borrowed time, and we were lucky that for 18 months Sonko and Ivar hardly missed a game

Not covering for the gaps that where appearing was a mistake, and one that was compounded by are lack of investment

The signings we did make were gambles taken on the relative cheap. Fae and Cisse to replace Sidwell might have been fine IF we had bought them in the summer before and bedded them into the squad. As it was we werent prepared to spend enough money to get a immediate replacement for Sidwell once waiting for him to leave

We basically did the same with Shorey when he left, but unfortunately we were in the league below and so replacing him was less of a task, and it looks like we are doing the same with Hunt now

Agreed. I'm surprised this is still being argued over as Coppell openly admitted he failed to strengthen during summer 2007. That was the crucial time when the clubs stock was higher than its ever been and may ever be.

[Ian Royal]

No one is arguing that we didn't fail to strengthen though FFS!

Amount spent does not account for that. The failure is in how, where and on who it was spent.

Not signing a proper right winger was a massive mistake and failure to strengthen.
Signing Fae was a mistake and failed to strengthen us, likewise Cisse, though he's proving useful at a lower level. Not using the resources we had well enough was a big mistake.

Not correcting the mistakes of the summer in January was a big mistake. Not strengthening upfront in January was a mistake.

None of that really bears a great deal of relation to how much we did, or were willing to, spend. We've proved we could get Premier quality players for low prices, as have other clubs.

[Focher]

the only reason we have sold is because we have not been successful enough in the last 2 seasons. Its a fact of football if the club your at isn't at a high level you lose your best players, it really is as simple as that. We have never been a selling club, it just makes sense in cashing in on players that don't want to be at a club that isn't good enough for them.

[Skin]

I was wrong by 30% apologies.

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Several clubs want him, minimum £2.5 million, let them have a bidding war. We're going to lose 40% anyway and we'll need as much as we can get to replace him with a player of any kind of decent standard.

You don't get much of a player for £1million any more. Especially one that's in form and can score upwards of 20 goals. And thats what Swindon need to get out of League 1.

More like what the inbreds need just to stay in league 1. Without Cox's goals last season, they would have been relegated.

sign him back. he won me a grand last season as joint top scorer. i ilke him.