I think Reading may be relegated this season.

[strap]

If Rodgers was not sacked, we would be comfortable now. Still a pathetic decision to sack him.

How very true ... comfortably in the bottom 3.

[rhroyal]

Every possibility that we could go down again, the last relegation from the Premiership, as has already been said, was avoidable, investment in players (Sidwell replacement) would have seen us safe, likewise this season it is avoidable, but the club are doing very little to alay these fears, ambitionless, passionless from the top down, the words "Our Financial Situation" keep appearing , how the hell do we have a financial situation ? loads of dosh from the Premier league 2 x parachute payments and we have long been known as low payers, in relation to cubs of a similar size an support.

And for god sake get a manager with a track record, and not some mumbo jumbo scout, otherwise known as the "cheap option"!

The way this football club has been managed, I really don't care what happens now.

You obviously do. So do I, much as I wish I didn't. That's the problem.

[Elm Park Old Boy]

Aren't half a dozen teams going to go into administration, thus giving us a ten point advantage? Come on, there's got to be some benefit from having already cut the cloth that others have left all baggy and untailored.

[Royalee]

Location: I'm not backing Brian

So, to sum it up:
-you still think Rodgers is great No, he just wasn't given enough time to prove either way
-you blame Tim Dellor for getting Rodgers sacked To a degree - what he says sways the views of those who don't get to games (like you) and turned people against Rodgers. Of course there will have been other reasons too though.
-you invent all sorts of lame excuses to justify that Rodgers is still your hero, you weren't wrong in your judgement, and you blame Madejski I'd be considerably richer than I am if I'd invented the system for measuring time you imbecile. I was proven neither right nor wrong in my judgement and yes I do blame Madejski for acting rashly and for failing to see that he's probably been poorly advised
-and your new theme is "I'm not backing Brian" Yes, as in 'I don't think he'll be a success'

Maybe you should just move on, and get behind the team?I have - I went to Bristol and Plymouth to cheer the team on. Have you got behind the team lately? Did you get behind the team under Rodgers?

[Thaumagurist*]

Aren't half a dozen teams going to go into administration, thus giving us a ten point advantage? Come on, there's got to be some benefit from having already cut the cloth that others have left all baggy and untailored.

1) Who are they?
2) Why hasn't this been more widely reported?
3) When do you think this will happen?

[RoyalBlue]

For once Spacey is quite right!

And what a sad reflection of the sorry state of affairs that the club currently is in.

Bad enough when we were hoping that other club's results would go against them and save our skin, now we are hoping for them to go into administration to save us!!

[Ian Royal]

Aren't half a dozen teams going to go into administration, thus giving us a ten point advantage? Come on, there's got to be some benefit from having already cut the cloth that others have left all baggy and untailored.

1) Who are they?
2) Why hasn't this been more widely reported?
3) When do you think this will happen?

Watford, Palace and Cardiff have all been quite widely reported as in financial trouble at one point or another, not sure what the current state is on Watford, but the other two certainly look like quite possible candidates.

That's half the teams needed for the half dozen.

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

Location: I'm not backing Brian

So, to sum it up:
-you still think Rodgers is great
-you blame Tim Dellor for getting Rodgers sacked
-you invent all sorts of lame excuses to justify that Rodgers is still your hero, you weren't wrong in your judgement, and you blame Madejski
-and your new theme is "I'm not backing Brian"

Maybe you should just move on, and get behind the team?

Ideal attacks!!

[RoyalBlue]

Aren't half a dozen teams going to go into administration, thus giving us a ten point advantage? Come on, there's got to be some benefit from having already cut the cloth that others have left all baggy and untailored.

1) Who are they?
2) Why hasn't this been more widely reported?
3) When do you think this will happen?

Watford, Palace and Cardiff have all been quite widely reported as in financial trouble at one point or another, not sure what the current state is on Watford, but the other two certainly look like quite possible candidates.

That's half the teams needed for the half dozen.

Watford are relatively financially secure and always were. The threats of administration were the consequences of a power struggle on the board and brinkmanship by both parties concerned.

The Chairman of the other two clubs are 'characters' to say the very least. Both work the media well and are politically astute. I wouldn't rely too much on their 'troubles' leading to administration and saving the skin of our ever so financially prudent chairman. It is the quality of the managers, team and results on the pitch that will tell at the end of the day. I would suggest we are losing out big time on all three fronts at present!

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

Location: I'm not backing Brian

So, to sum it up:
-you still think Rodgers is great No, he just wasn't given enough time to prove either way
-you blame Tim Dellor for getting Rodgers sacked To a degree - what he says sways the views of those who don't get to games (like you) and turned people against Rodgers. Of course there will have been other reasons too though.
-you invent all sorts of lame excuses to justify that Rodgers is still your hero, you weren't wrong in your judgement, and you blame Madejski I'd be considerably richer than I am if I'd invented the system for measuring time you imbecile. I was proven neither right nor wrong in my judgement and yes I do blame Madejski for acting rashly and for failing to see that he's probably been poorly advised
-and your new theme is "I'm not backing Brian" Yes, as in 'I don't think he'll be a success'

Maybe you should just move on, and get behind the team?I have - I went to Bristol and Plymouth to cheer the team on. Have you got behind the team lately? Did you get behind the team under Rodgers?

Royalee defends by sticking to his guns. The judges were inclined to call this round a draw, but they were swayed by the reference to Ideal's non-attending.

Result: Ideal:1 Royalee:2


Royalee will meet Ian Royal in Round two.

[Sun Tzu]

The problem with this is that it won't even help us much if they do have ten points deducted.
Cardiff are on 38 points
Crystal Palace 34 points
Watford 32 points
We are on 23 points

You must do maths differently in Scandanavia.....

[Pseud O'Nym]

The problem with this is that it won't even help us much if they do have ten points deducted.
Cardiff are on 38 points
Crystal Palace 34 points
Watford 32 points
We are on 23 points

You must do maths differently in Scandanavia.....

Errr.. do you have a problem reading the league table? I was merely stating the points as they are now. Any fool will be able to tell that. Or did you perhaps not bother looking at it before posting?

32-10 < 23 HTH.

[Pseud O'Nym]

You do understnad that only the one team would be behind us? And that they have in fact picked up more points per game, and will likely continue to do so? So it wouldn't help much, as I said, unless something CHANGES for us.

Yes I understnad and, TBH, it aint going to happen as far as Watford are concerned - Ashcroft has enough problems with non-dom tax status threatening his political career without adding a bust football club to them, he also enough dosh to bail them out without blinking - but as you choose to post in such rude and abrasive style I just thought I'd join in.

As far as something changing for us, Rodgers has gone and we're getting in at least one new striker and a right back, though whether that'll do the trick I don't know, but nor do you.

[LoyalRoyal22]

If Rodgers was not sacked, we would be comfortable now. Still a pathetic decision to sack him.

What planet are you on? We've played three games, two of them against teams significantly better than us so far this season! How on earth could we be comfortable now? If we couldn't beat Scunthorpe under Rodgers what makes you think he'd have got a win in any of those games?

He certainly wouldn't have won all of them which is the only thing that might have made us comfortable now!

The idiocy of that statment is just indescribable.

The idiocy of your problem with Rodgers is indescribable.

You say we couldnt beat Scunthorpe like we got outplayed, if Man Utd outplayed Fulham at home but didnt win and was really unlucky, would you see a Man utd fan say ` we cant beat Fulham` stupid comment Ian. On another day that would have been 5-1 to Reading. So i say that was improvement. And Also we have had 2 away games since Brendan left, 1 point. Away from home our 4-4-1-1 was showing promise, apart from 45 mins at Derby.

[floyd__streete]

On another day that would have been 5-1 to Reading.

That has to be the lamest attempt at justifying a quite appaling result in a quite appaling tenure. The fact is that it wasn't '5-1 to Reading' and rarely did we see this fabled 'another day'.....when we played well we rarely won (see Cardiff, Leicester, Scunthorpe) and when we played poorly we were always trounced (see Newcastle, QPR, Palace). Your assertion that with Rodgers at the helm 'we would be comfortable now' is astonishing and goes against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary of the 21 games prior to his sacking. Rodgers was sacked because the board felt that he was not capable of arresting the alarming slump. Whether BMc is the man to improve matters is a different argument.

[weybridgewanderer]

[quote="LoyalRoyal22]


The idiocy of your problem with Rodgers is indescribable.

You say we couldnt beat Scunthorpe like we got outplayed, if Man Utd outplayed Fulham at home but didnt win and was really unlucky, would you see a Man utd fan say ` we cant beat Fulham` stupid comment Ian. On another day that would have been 5-1 to Reading. So i say that was improvement. And Also we have had 2 away games since Brendan left, 1 point. Away from home our 4-4-1-1 was showing promise, apart from 45 mins at Derby.[/quote]

Glad you think we were so good v Scunthorpe.

Our Chairman did not share your view, never mind Tim dellor thinking it was bad.

Sir John apologised for the performance after the game to the guests in the Premier Lounge.

God knows what he said to them after the Palace game!

I suspect SJMs views had more sway in the sacking of rodgers than any comment tim deller made in an aftermatch interview v scunthorpe.

oh, and rockerite, it has taken you a while to catch on in regard ti us being relegation canddates this seson, but welcome to our world!

[Terminal Boardom]

If you thought that the Scunthorpe performance was worse than the Palace one, then you are no supporter of this club!

[Sun Tzu]

The problem with this is that it won't even help us much if they do have ten points deducted.
Cardiff are on 38 points
Crystal Palace 34 points
Watford 32 points
We are on 23 points

You must do maths differently in Scandanavia.....

Errr.. do you have a problem reading the league table? I was merely stating the points as they are now. Any fool will be able to tell that. Or did you perhaps not bother looking at it before posting?

Given the point was what would happen if certain teams had 10 points deducted it seems fair to look at what their points total would be should that happen. For you to claim that for teams who are 9 and 11 points ahead of us to lose 10 points 'wouldn't help us much' is silly, becasue it would quite obvioulsy be a massive help. I was assuming that in Scandanavia 34-10 does not = 24 as it seemed like you had somehow come to a different number.

[rhroyal]

You have to also consider the fire sales that will happen if clubs enter administration, especially if it happens in January.

[RoyalBlue]

The fact that people are desperately hoping that other clubs enter administration would suggest that they think we are pretty strong bets for relegation if survival comes down to results on the pitch.