Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

[melonhead]

All this talk about not having enough black managers or whatever - do we know the number of black/asian/non-white people who have taken their coaching badges etc, are ready to be a manager and have been refused by all clubs they've applied to? Personally, I think it's a myth - if you're good enough to be a manager, someone will take you on. I've never heard of anyone, black, white or otherwise bemoaning that they can't get a managerial job because of their colour.

in part i agree


but then , thats probably the same arguments trotted out in the past, when black workers werent being given jobs at all, or when women complained of unfair treatment and lack of opportunities
later proven to be purely due to systematic inherrant bigotry in the system

[Royal Lady]

Yeah but my point is, in this day and age where people are able to complain openly, I don't recall ONE player bemoaning the fact he can't get a job as a manager.

[Handsome Man]

Yeah but my point is, in this day and age where people are able to complain openly, I don't recall ONE player bemoaning the fact he can't get a job as a manager.

Apart from John Barnes

[Royal Lady]

But he HAS been a manager - just a not very good one!

[Handsome Man]

But he HAS been a manager - just a not very good one!

But he has complained about not gettign other jobs

[melonhead]

Yeah but my point is, in this day and age where people are able to complain openly, I don't recall ONE player bemoaning the fact he can't get a job as a manager.

theres hundreds of managers(dont know why they have to be players) at all levels saying it
just cos the few high profile black players you would hear from due to their profile arent moaning constantly, doesnt mean its not happening

[Wimb]

Yeah but my point is, in this day and age where people are able to complain openly, I don't recall ONE player bemoaning the fact he can't get a job as a manager.

Interesting little study highlighted in the Guardian about 18 months back.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... nal-racism

[Royal Lady]

But he HAS been a manager - just a not very good one!

But he has complained about not gettign other jobs

I meant newly qualified, as I said in my other post - not manager's who have already been tried and proven to be ineffective.

[Madstad to Nadderud]

All this talk about not having enough black managers or whatever - do we know the number of black/asian/non-white people who have taken their coaching badges etc, are ready to be a manager and have been refused by all clubs they've applied to? Personally, I think it's a myth - if you're good enough to be a manager, someone will take you on. I've never heard of anyone, black, white or otherwise bemoaning that they can't get a managerial job because of their colour.

Yes, it's called institutional racism. So it's not a myth.

[No Fixed Abode]

I don't see Jason Roberts complaining that El Hadj Diouf only got a 2 game ban for spitting. Far worse than name calling.

[Madstad to Nadderud]

I don't see Jason Roberts complaining that El Hadj Diouf only got a 2 game ban for spitting. Far worse than name calling.

Racism is not simply about name calling. Believe it or not it is a SERIOUS issue and a crime.

[sandman]

I don't see Jason Roberts complaining that El Hadj Diouf only got a 2 game ban for spitting. Far worse than name calling.

Were you born thick or did you have to work at it?

[Madstad to Nadderud]

I don't see Jason Roberts complaining that El Hadj Diouf only got a 2 game ban for spitting. Far worse than name calling.

Were you born thick or did you have to work at it?

[Madstad to Nadderud]

I don't see Jason Roberts complaining that El Hadj Diouf only got a 2 game ban for spitting. Far worse than name calling.

Racism is not simply about name calling. Believe it or not it is a SERIOUS issue and a crime.

What it boils down to is basicly namecalling, and certain people are behaving in an overly sensitive manner.

Overly sensitive manner!!!! You clearly do not understand the issue of racism or the problems associated with it. But you are from Norway and my experience of living here is that a lot of the locals don't undestand it as there is plenty of it here despite it being institutionalised and not so much overt racism. You only have to remember what happened here in Norway not so long ago to understand how serious an issue racism is and that was all caused by one person! Think about.

[Lacoste]

What has happened to this proud nation of ours? You cant even call a spade a spade without getting a fine/suspension.

[Madstad to Nadderud]

What has happened to this proud nation of ours? You cant even call a spade a spade without getting a fine/suspension.

No even amusing even if you are going fishing.

[Lacoste]

Have you never heard of that saying?

Calling a spade a spade - It means saying it as it is i.e. HRK Is shit at football.

[Madstad to Nadderud]

Have you never heard of that saying?

Calling a spade a spade - It means saying it as it is i.e. HRK Is shit at football.

[Binfield Royal]

I don't care what t shirt he does or does not wear, I want him to remember to wear his scoring boots - we need a win.

[Madstad to Nadderud]

I don't care what t shirt he does or does not wear, I want him to remember to wear his scoring boots - we need a win.

Roberts made a difference when he came on against LFC as he seriously livened things up. TOP BLOKE!