QPR points deduction?

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Here's a groundbreaking suggestion...

Why don't we reserve judgement on how spineless the FA is in this case until they actually announce the result?

....because its better to be able to say ..."told you so" ! ....

...also QPR will have 14 days to appeal any decision made on 6 May, by which time the play offs will have been played...conspiracy theory emerges again

[Ian Royal]

Here's a groundbreaking suggestion...

Why don't we reserve judgement on how spineless the FA is in this case until they actually announce the result?

....because its better to be able to say ..."told you so" !

You can still do that by predicting they'll do nothing. Working yourself into a rabid, frothing at the mouth frenzy at the injustice that may or may not be perpetrated is just stupid.

I bet you read the Daily Mail.

[Royal Lady]

Who is frothing at the mouth in a rabid frenzy? All I see are most people agreeing that they doubt the FA will do anything to upset the apple cart and once again a club gets away with stuff that smaller clubs don't and it's to the detriment of football in general. Hardly frothing at the mouth.

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Here's a groundbreaking suggestion...

Why don't we reserve judgement on how spineless the FA is in this case until they actually announce the result?

....because its better to be able to say ..."told you so" !

You can still do that by predicting they'll do nothing. Working yourself into a rabid, frothing at the mouth frenzy at the injustice that may or may not be perpetrated is just stupid.

I bet you read the Daily Mail.

ok Ian....they'll do nothing ...there!

[brendywendy]

Who is frothing at the mouth in a rabid frenzy? All I see are most people agreeing that they doubt the FA will do anything to upset the apple cart and once again a club gets away with stuff that smaller clubs don't and it's to the detriment of football in general. Hardly frothing at the mouth.

im frothing, and in a frenzy, of rabid proporrtions.

[Royal Lady]

That's the drugs Brendo, nothing to do with the QPR and points deductions or lack thereof.

[RoyalBlue]

Yes, but don't you think that the football authorities have learnt from that and are embarrassed by it - and have tightened up their processes to make sure the same sort of cock-up doesn't happen again?

No, I have no confidence in that whatsoever. Everyone bar the football authorities could see what was happening with Wimbledon/MK Dons at the time it was happening and everyone bar the football authorities knew it was very wrong. The football authorities were incredibly thick and/or spineless and I don't see any evidence that they have changed since then.

Quite wrong. Even the football authorities knew it was wrong. But their rules were such that they had to grant an appeal because of the way that the FL Chairman had screwed up the whole process at the start. When asked about it, by the press at an airport on the way to the FL AGM, he said "There's no way we'll allow that to happen", and when the FL members overwhelmingly turned down the request, that statement by the FL Chairman was taken as grounds that the decision had been "prejudged".

That entitled those behind the move to have an appeal to a 3-man FA Commission, which voted 2-1 in favour of the move - after being presented with evidence which is highly dubious to say the least.

But to say "everyone bar the football authorities knew it was very wrong" is so incredibly wrong as to be laughable - they knew it was wrong also. I've not met anyone inside a football authority who approved of this or agreed with it. But it was cocked up completely and left a way open for it to happen that should never have happened.

So they have most definitely learnt from their mistakes and you won't now get anyone from a football authority commenting publicly about something that is likely to be heard by any panel.

So whilst some of what I said was incorrect the 'incredibly thick' description still fits them! The FL Chairman should have damn well known not to make public declarations like that prior to the process running its course! Even given the potential legal minefield that he dropped the FL into, I still believe they could and should have found other ways to thwart what happened.

Assuming that they have learned and recognising your expertise in this matter (that's not intended to sound sarcastic), what measures and definitive rules have the FL put in place to ensure this scenario can never, ever happen again?

[brendywendy]

ill rack em up RL, you slot em away

[Svlad Cjelli]

So whilst some of what I said was incorrect the 'incredibly thick' description still fits them! The FL Chairman should have damn well known not to make public declarations like that prior to the process running its course!

Maybe, maybe not - it was a completely unprecedented situation so he didn't think his comments through - or rather worded them badly - if he'd said the same in a slightly different way he could well had been OK.

Even given the potential legal minefield that he dropped the FL into, I still believe they could and should have found other ways to thwart what happened.

I honestly don't think they had any other options at the time when they found themselves in that situation.

Assuming that they have learned and recognising your expertise in this matter (that's not intended to sound sarcastic), what measures and definitive rules have the FL put in place to ensure this scenario can never, ever happen again?

For a start, the rules on ground location have been changed and considerably tightened, so there's no longer the type of loophole in them that MK's lawyers were able to exploit. They are also aware of past mistakes in everything they do and comment accordingly - for instance when there is a potential club move coming up you will not get anyone from the FL to make a comment - publicly or privately - until a decision has been reached according to their rules.

All the authorities learnt the hard way - why else does the FA's statement about the QPR charges end with the line

The FA will make no further comment at this time.‬

[Mr Angry]

Chappers on 606 thinks the timing of the hearing is to enable the FA to fudge it....Savage refused to answer!

[Ian Royal]

Chappers on 606 thinks the timing of the hearing is to enable the FA to fudge it....Savage refused to answer!

Fairly sensible of Savage, I can't see how he'd be In The Know and it's hardly a good step to slag off your governing body.

[AthleticoSpizz]

FA to announce a 9 point deduction if QPR are 13 points clear, 7 points if they are eleven clear on the matchday.

The Premier will get to welcome their money next season regardless

[glass half full]

Chappers on 606 thinks the timing of the hearing is to enable the FA to fudge it....Savage refused to answer!

Fairly sensible of Savage, I can't see how he'd be In The Know and it's hardly a good step to slag off your governing body.

Maybe Loftus Road will be found to be inside the Welsh border and the action subject to decisions by the Welsh FA

[Hampshire Royal]

QPR aren't a 'big team'.

[fester_royal]

The FA dicked s*indon 20 odd years ago but let Spurs off scot free. Who is to say that they won't dick QPR?

Money..of which rangers supposedly have.. Qpr would lose an awful lot and I really don't think the fa have the bottle for the court case that would follow

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Chappers on 606 thinks the timing of the hearing is to enable the FA to fudge it....Savage refused to answer!

Fairly sensible of Savage, I can't see how he'd be In The Know and it's hardly a good step to slag off your governing body.

Maybe Loftus Road will be found to be inside the Welsh border and the action subject to decisions by the Welsh FA

In which case they'll be fined £30 due to insignificant evidence of any wrongdoing.

[Z175]

The more QPR hemorage points the less likely it is they can fudge it though. Their remaining fixtures are Cardiff, Hull, Watford and Leeds so they may end up only going up by a few points. If they are found guilty there could be hell to pay. Frankly i'm expecting another decision like the original Tevez dispute and the Wimbledon move - not guilty, no problems, carry on.

[Snowball]

Can't see a not-guilty, myself.

There are a lot of charges and it's been much heralded.

[PlasticRoyale]

They won't do anything

[JC]

The more QPR hemorage points the less likely it is they can fudge it though. Their remaining fixtures are Cardiff, Hull, Watford and Leeds so they may end up only going up by a few points. If they are found guilty there could be hell to pay. Frankly i'm expecting another decision like the original Tevez dispute and the Wimbledon move - not guilty, no problems, carry on.

Wasn't the Tevez decision guilty and a £5 million fine? The difference is that then the rules were not clear, but now the rules have been clearly defined. Surely the important point is that there are 2 charges also relating to a cover up. If those are proved then surely there can only be a hefty penalty