back from the game - norwich

[Snowball]

Reading League Games where Shane didn't get on the pitch

1 Won
3 Drew
5 Lost

3 goals for 9 goals against


Yeah, he obviously costs us loads of games


1-0 Barnsley

0-1 Forest
0-1 Sheffield United
0-2 Bristol
0-2 Swansea
0-1 Burnley

2-2 Cardiff
0-0 Forest
0-0 QPR

[CMRoyal]

An appeal - please keep the stats bollox to other threads. None of it's relevant to this thread which is about reports on this one match alone.

[Dirk Gently]

... ideally from people who were there and can give an objective opinion of the whole match, not just on teh players the camera happened to focus on.

[Snowball]

An appeal - please keep the stats bollox to other threads. None of it's relevant to this thread which is about reports on this one match alone.

The question was asked. I answered it.

[Snowball]

... ideally from people who were there and can give an objective opinion of the whole match, not just on teh players the camera happened to focus on.

What a joke. So when you're watching, say, Kitson, you are also managing to watch, Rosy overlapping
and Harding giving a nudge to their midfielder, and Hanneman scratching his arse?

I know from watching live and THEN watching the game replayed on TV that "at the game" is by far the worst way to judge

with TV you get a close-in, can repeat it time and again, can watch a move without watching the ball

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Kitson's still playing too deep and I'm begining to think signing him was a mistake, we need centre forwards to lead the line the way Long did last night, Kits had his usaul nice touches coming deep to get the ball, but when the move finishes we have just one player in the box up against 4 defenders, with Kits jogging into the D. Considering how much it's going to cost us to bring him back, is it really worth it?

!

Put it another way. If we announced that we were going to spend 4.7 MILLION for a player who has scored


02 goals in 08.2 games, Championship, Reading 2008-9
00 goals in 11.2 games, Premiership, Stoke 2008-9
10 goals in 29.2 games, Premiership, Reading 2007-8
02 goals in 09.8 games, Premiership, Reading 2006-7
18 goals in 28.4 games, Championship, Reading 2005-6
19 goals in 37.0 games, Championship, Reading 2004-5
05 goals in 11.4 games, Championship, Reading 2003-4

56 goals in 135.2 games = 1 goal every 2.4 games (that's not bad)

but only 14 goals in the last three seasons, only 12 in the last two, only two goals in 19.4 games this season

wouldn't there be an outcry that the price was about 4 million too high?

I like Kits, but being hard-nosed, we would be better off NOT signing him, demanding the full whack from Stoke, over time, and using the money to buy another striker

or play hardball and get a much better price.

More to do with style. If we go up, next season will be a real dog fight, is Kits the right player to lead our line?

[Uke]

I know from watching live and THEN watching the game replayed on TV that "at the game" is by far the worst way to judge

with TV you get a close-in, can repeat it time and again, can watch a move without watching the ball

All precisely why I didn't watch the game on Sky and went to the match instead...!

The game is a holistic experience, not somethiung to be analysed and picked apart killing the game I enjoyed. Mising bits is all part of it!

I enjoyed the match enjoyed the atmosphere, shared the joy and surprisingly that was enough.

[Turns8]

... ideally from people who were there and can give an objective opinion of the whole match, not just on teh players the camera happened to focus on.

What a joke. So when you're watching, say, Kitson, you are also managing to watch, Rosy overlapping
and Harding giving a nudge to their midfielder, and Hanneman scratching his arse?

I know from watching live and THEN watching the game replayed on TV that "at the game" is by far the worst way to judge

with TV you get a close-in, can repeat it time and again, can watch a move without watching the ball

That is rubbish...anyone with half a brain when they are at the match will look at the whole area of the ptich and see the movement made by others as the play builds up...when you watch it on TV you only get to see the player with the ball and the surrounding area...you don't get to see the movement from the rest of the team

I bet for Long's first goal you didn't see on TV the movement he made to get a yard on his marker...which is why kebe delayed the cross slightly...well not until the endless replays...

[Snowball]

... ideally from people who were there and can give an objective opinion of the whole match, not just on teh players the camera happened to focus on.

What a joke. So when you're watching, say, Kitson, you are also managing to watch, Rosy overlapping
and Harding giving a nudge to their midfielder, and Hanneman scratching his arse?

I know from watching live and THEN watching the game replayed on TV that "at the game" is by far the worst way to judge

with TV you get a close-in, can repeat it time and again, can watch a move without watching the ball

That is rubbish...anyone with half a brain when they are at the match will look at the whole area of the ptich and see the movement made by others as the play builds up...when you watch it on TV you only get to see the player with the ball and the surrounding area...you don't get to see the movement from the rest of the team

I bet for Long's first goal you didn't see on TV the movement he made to get a yard on his marker...which is why kebe delayed the cross slightly...well not until the endless replays...

Wrong. My son was watching with me and thought it was an "easy" goal. I said he made it look easy.

And the fact is he gets more goals per shots on target than any other player

[Dirk Gently]

And in the same way when there's a break and the camera is focussed on Kebe, you can't see just how far behind the play Kitson is. You don't get to see players' reactions afte the ball has gone or to what happens elsewhere on the pitch, you don't get to see the despair in the eyes of the Norwich supporters.....

The match is a holistic experience, where you can choose to watch what you want to watch and find interesting - not just which camera the director decides to give you.

There is a place for TV viewers and non-viewers to comment, just as there is a place for endless statistics - those places are all over HNA? But "back from the game" ought to be exactly what it says BACK FROM THE GAME, not back from the pub or back from the sofa.

[Snowball]

anyone with half a brain when they are at the match will look at the whole area of the ptich and see the movement made by others as the play builds up...when you watch it on TV you only get to see the player with the ball and the surrounding area...you don't get to see the movement from the rest of the team

I bet for Long's first goal you didn't see on TV the movement he made to get a yard on his marker...which is why kebe delayed the cross slightly...well not until the endless replays...

Is that why, IN THIS THREAD, someone posted that they actually missed Long's second goal because there was so much messing about?

I love live footie, but watching a game on TV shows a helluva lot more, especially fouls, was it, wasn't it?

[Turns8]

anyone with half a brain when they are at the match will look at the whole area of the ptich and see the movement made by others as the play builds up...when you watch it on TV you only get to see the player with the ball and the surrounding area...you don't get to see the movement from the rest of the team

I bet for Long's first goal you didn't see on TV the movement he made to get a yard on his marker...which is why kebe delayed the cross slightly...well not until the endless replays...

Is that why, IN THIS THREAD, someone posted that they actually missed Long's second goal because there was so much messing about?

I love live footie, but watching a game on TV shows a helluva lot more, especially fouls, was it, wasn't it?

Armchair fan Biggest YAWN of the day so far...go and start up a stat attack thread about the pixels on your plasma or something...

[Snowball]

And in the same way when there's a break and the camera is focussed on Kebe, you can't see just how far behind the play Kitson is. You don't get to see players' reactions afte the ball has gone or to what happens elsewhere on the pitch, you don't get to see the despair in the eyes of the Norwich supporters.....

The match is a holistic experience, where you can choose to watch what you want to watch and find interesting - not just which camera the director decides to give you.

There is a place for TV viewers and non-viewers to comment, just as there is a place for endless statistics - those places are all over HNA? But "back from the game" ought to be exactly what it says BACK FROM THE GAME, not back from the pub or back from the sofa.

OIC, so if the club play in Korea and sixteen people go to watch, the rest are banned from commenting.

If there's a thread for those who go and a separate thread for those who watch it on TV, fine, otherwise
it's a thread to discuss the game. End of.

[Turns8]

And in the same way when there's a break and the camera is focussed on Kebe, you can't see just how far behind the play Kitson is. You don't get to see players' reactions afte the ball has gone or to what happens elsewhere on the pitch, you don't get to see the despair in the eyes of the Norwich supporters.....

The match is a holistic experience, where you can choose to watch what you want to watch and find interesting - not just which camera the director decides to give you.

There is a place for TV viewers and non-viewers to comment, just as there is a place for endless statistics - those places are all over HNA? But "back from the game" ought to be exactly what it says BACK FROM THE GAME, not back from the pub or back from the sofa.

OIC, so if the club play in Korea and sixteen people go to watch, the rest are banned from commenting.



If there's a thread for those who go and a separate thread for those who watch it on TV, fine, otherwise
it's a thread to discuss the game. End of.

"OFFICIALLY BORED OF THE UTTER RUBBISH YOU ARE SPOUTING"

[Snowball]

Armchair fan Biggest YAWN of the day so far...go and start up a stat attack thread about the pixels on your plasma or something...

Bollox. I'm no armchair fan, but I do find it difficult to get to away games because I have kids

I was at Cardiff 2-2, Sheffield 2-1, Coventry 0-0, Wolves 3-0, Birmingham 3-1, Saints 1-1 but every time with the whole tribe. or on a business trip and fiddling it.

Only Plymouth 2-2 did I manage to "get away"

[CMRoyal]

If there's a thread for those who go and a separate thread for those who watch it on TV, fine, otherwise it's a thread to discuss the game. End of.

There's a "Norwich v Reading match thread" elsewhere.

[Focher]

i was particularly impressed with Harding last night, perhaps not quite in Armstrong's league , but considering his lack of 1st team football he looked more than capable and well worth keeping past his loan period.

[Uke]

anyone with half a brain when they are at the match will look at the whole area of the ptich and see the movement made by others as the play builds up...when you watch it on TV you only get to see the player with the ball and the surrounding area...you don't get to see the movement from the rest of the team

I bet for Long's first goal you didn't see on TV the movement he made to get a yard on his marker...which is why kebe delayed the cross slightly...well not until the endless replays...

Is that why, IN THIS THREAD, someone posted that they actually missed Long's second goal because there was so much messing about?

I love live footie, but watching a game on TV shows a helluva lot more, especially fouls, was it, wasn't it?

I missed his actual touch too, saw the ball hit the back of the net.

I will now contemplate suicide as my match was clearly ruined and my enjoyment of the day a mere hollow shell

[Dirk Gently]

Armchair fan Biggest YAWN of the day so far...go and start up a stat attack thread about the pixels on your plasma or something...

Bollox. I'm no armchair fan, but I do find it difficult to get to away games because I have kids

I was at Cardiff 2-2, Sheffield 2-1, Coventry 0-0, Wolves 3-0, Birmingham 3-1, Saints 1-1 but every time with the whole tribe. or on a business trip and fiddling it.

Only Plymouth 2-2 did I manage to "get away"

Please - do give us a statistical breakdown of how long each trip took you (in hours, minutes and seconds), and provide us with a goals/mile travelled analysis for each member of the family. I'm sure we'll all be riveted.

[Turns8]

Armchair fan Biggest YAWN of the day so far...go and start up a stat attack thread about the pixels on your plasma or something...

Bollox. I'm no armchair fan, but I do find it difficult to get to away games because I have kids

I was at Cardiff 2-2, Sheffield 2-1, Coventry 0-0, Wolves 3-0, Birmingham 3-1, Saints 1-1 but every time with the whole tribe. or on a business trip and fiddling it.

Only Plymouth 2-2 did I manage to "get away"

So you go to live games yet prefer to watch on TV...that makes you an armchair fan in my book...live games you get to see sooo much more as it happpens and not once it has happened...if you choose to watch all the fun and games in the crowd and not the pitch that is your choice...I for one love being able to take in whatever part of the pitch i choose and if i want to spend a few moments looking at the forwards movement i can do...or how the back four are stepping up etc...that for me is the main reason i go to live games..but then I am a football geek there is so much more to it than just seeing the ball hit the back of the net and is one of the reasons that some people on here seem to be soooo way off the mark with comments they make...