How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 23 Feb 2016 17:52

Quite. If we reach the semis again it will be a bigger achievement than last season.

We are bound to face Arsenal again though.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Ian Royal » 23 Feb 2016 18:41

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Maneki Neko and his tactics have been resolutely non-long ball this time round.


hes a pragmatic manager who doesn't stick to one way of playing, but instead bases his style of play on the strengths of his squad.
hoorah for that

Mostly plus one. Though we'll see if he starts turning the team more direct and negative in the middle over the summer. I expect and hope not.

We've got some big changes to come again at the end of the season.


actually, id welcome a small reversion in that direction tbh.
I think we still try to overplay at the moment.

I think that's just about confidence and making the right decisions in play.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Longhorn1970 » 23 Feb 2016 20:00

Extended-Phenotype Depending on how you look at it kes, you could say Clarke fell at the first premier league team, in which case Brian is already ahead.

Probably fairer to say that if he also reaches the semi finals, he has done so against harder opposition, so maybe extra kudos.


Didn't sir Steve take west brom to their highest ever finish in Prem ?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Nameless » 23 Feb 2016 22:24

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Extended-Phenotype Depending on how you look at it kes, you could say Clarke fell at the first premier league team, in which case Brian is already ahead.

Probably fairer to say that if he also reaches the semi finals, he has done so against harder opposition, so maybe extra kudos.


Didn't sir Steve take west brom to their highest ever finish in Prem ?



Not in last season's FA cup he didn't..

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by George_ » 23 Feb 2016 23:20

Lost 1 in 8 & has sorted the defence out whilst getting the best out of Hector & HRK.

Unbeaten at home in 2016 & Taken us to another quarter final, not all bad is it.


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by From Despair To Where? » 23 Feb 2016 23:30

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Extended-Phenotype Depending on how you look at it kes, you could say Clarke fell at the first premier league team, in which case Brian is already ahead.

Probably fairer to say that if he also reaches the semi finals, he has done so against harder opposition, so maybe extra kudos.


Didn't sir Steve take west brom to their highest ever finish in Prem ?


Yes, but only if you believe football didn't exist before 1992

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 23 Feb 2016 23:51

I make that 2 losses in 12 games after losing 6 of the previous 7.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Ian Royal » 23 Feb 2016 23:51

To the best of my knowledge Coppell has never managed West Brom.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by harry » 24 Feb 2016 01:14

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Extended-Phenotype I reckon the fairest criticism you could lay on McD would be that towards the end of his first stint he didn't seem to trust the team to play another way. 

But even then he's somewhat vindicated by the fact that Adkins and Clarke failed to get Reading playing consistently with a more passing style and on McD's return, with a different team, he has adopted a different style, proving it wasn't his capability that should have been scrutinised. 

 We've shored things up at the back and are now capable of coming from behind and getting back into games: something we were not able to do well under either Adkins or Clarke. 

Baby steps, but positive ones and I'm sure it will continue.‎

I think you can safely say he didn't do a very good job in the top flight (under difficult circumstances), but in retrospect that's hardly surprising for a man with just two and a half year's management experience in professional football, all at one club.


I'd argue that we got into the top flight due his ability to get the best out of a team/squad that in my view massively overachieved. What bugged the hell out of me was that we (the club, the fans) didn't accept that and have more patience. It wasn't as if after sacking him we suddenly turned that season around.


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Royal_jimmy » 24 Feb 2016 06:55

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floyd__streete We were tactically excellent on Saturday againt a team who will be playing Premier League football again next season. Well done to Brian and his staff. Not quite the 'muppet' some people on here were labelling you eh :roll:


Well, if Brian doesn't get past Palace in the next round he won't have done as well as Clarke did in the FA Cup last season......


Not only did we not knock out a prem side but we were awful in the league. Ok we've been underwhelming in the league but we are doing better there than under Clark last season.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Maneki Neko » 24 Feb 2016 09:18

genome I make that 2 losses in 12 games after losing 6 of the previous 7.


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by No Fixed Abode » 24 Feb 2016 09:58

genome I make that 2 losses in 12 games after losing 6 of the previous 7.


But now a massive 14 point gap to the Play-offs.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Forbury Lion » 24 Feb 2016 10:11

Extended-Phenotype I reckon the fairest criticism you could lay on McD would be that towards the end of his first stint he didn't seem to trust the team to play another way. 

But even then he's somewhat vindicated by the fact that Adkins and Clarke failed to get Reading playing consistently with a more passing style and on McD's return, with a different team, he has adopted a different style, proving it wasn't his capability that should have been scrutinised.‎
A great point, Maybe Brian had a better handle on the abilities and capabilities of the players at his disposal and knew they would struggle to adapt, thus resulting in less points won that if they continued to play the way they were. Perhaps with half decent funds available for that level he would have signed a player or two to help the side evolve and play another way.


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 24 Feb 2016 10:22

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genome I make that 2 losses in 12 games after losing 6 of the previous 7.


But now a massive 14 point gap to the Play-offs.


15 games under McDermott, only 4 losses m8, 2 losses in 12 games. Lost 6 out of last 10 before he came in, winning just 1 - surely even you must admit that's in improvement in form.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 24 Feb 2016 10:33

And, if you want to look at it in terms of league placing, Clarke took us from 2nd in the league to 9th in 7 games :!:

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by No Fixed Abode » 24 Feb 2016 10:35

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genome I make that 2 losses in 12 games after losing 6 of the previous 7.


But now a massive 14 point gap to the Play-offs.


15 games under McDermott, only 4 losses m8, 2 losses in 12 games. Lost 6 out of last 10 before he came in, winning just 1 - surely even you must admit that's in improvement in form.


Sliding down the league table from 7th to 14th isn't an improvement. Must have drawn a lot of games....

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 24 Feb 2016 10:39

Better that than losing them and sliding out of the automatic promotion spots under a snakey manager that wanted to jump ship at the first opportunity eh m8 :?:

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by genome » 24 Feb 2016 10:41

Oh and we were 13th when McDermott took over, HTH!

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by No Fixed Abode » 24 Feb 2016 10:42

genome Better that than losing them and sliding out of the automatic promotion spots under a snakey manager that wanted to jump ship at the first opportunity eh m8 :?:


It doesn't matter. Over 3 games, say. If you win 1 and lose 2 you get 3 points. If you draw all 3 you still get the same points. All we can go by is you were 7th under Clarke and 1 point off the play-offs. Now you're 14th and 14 points from the play-offs. .

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Ian Royal » 24 Feb 2016 10:45

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genome Better that than losing them and sliding out of the automatic promotion spots under a snakey manager that wanted to jump ship at the first opportunity eh m8 :?:


It doesn't matter. Over 3 games, say. If you win 1 and lose 2 you get 3 points. If you draw all 3 you still get the same points. All we can go by is you were 7th under Clarke and 1 point off the play-offs. Now you're 14th and 14 points from the play-offs. .
no, that's all your feeble mind is capable of going by. The rest of us can mamage a little better than that.

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