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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Jul 2020 10:37

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OF course, but we don’t really know what the decision making process is so putting a name to it is difficult. It could have been Dai Yongge who said ‘we’ll pay him £10k a week’. What sounded a good deal a year ago probably sounds very different now with no income coming in. Loads of businesses are renegotiating contracts and slashing expenses.

I reckon we can rule out Dai Yongge. My point was that someone at the club, knowing that last season we spent two times our income on wages, offered a deal that is apparently now too expensive. That doesn't give me much hope.



You can't rule out the owner at all. Howe may well recommend budgets, but the owner could be active and say, no, I want that player, pay what it takes.

Equally Howe has been in charge when we've overspend on shite before - while SJM was in East Asia and Burns was spunking money on Scottish shite.

The DoF, whatever the role, shouldn't be able to just pay out whatever he wants. So it's probably above that pay grade and doesn't seem to have been about Bowen's role anyway.

So it's likely Howe or Dai.

Seems odd to me that Dai Yongge would interfere in transfer bids for Moore, Meite and Swift, be responsible for offering Ejaria a "too big" contract and then, suddenly, not just tell Howe to get Ejaria in. Doesnt fit his pattern.

I accept it could well be him but given his previous attitudes towards this sort of thing it feels out of character.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Hound » 31 Jul 2020 10:58

Howe did kind of wash his hands of last summers business if I remember rightly from his own interview

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Jul 2020 11:06

Hound Howe did kind of wash his hands of last summers business if I remember rightly from his own interview

So who was in charge?

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Old Man Andrews » 31 Jul 2020 11:10

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Hound Howe did kind of wash his hands of last summers business if I remember rightly from his own interview

So who was in charge?

Kia Joorabchian

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Simon's Church » 31 Jul 2020 11:11

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Hound Howe did kind of wash his hands of last summers business if I remember rightly from his own interview

So who was in charge?




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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Jul 2020 11:13

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Hound Howe did kind of wash his hands of last summers business if I remember rightly from his own interview

So who was in charge?

Kia Joorabchian

You think he negotiated with himself?

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Old Man Andrews » 31 Jul 2020 11:14

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Kia Joorabchian

You think he negotiated with himself?

I don't think he negotiates, I think he has free reign from the owners to bring in players he has on his books.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Jul 2020 11:16

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You think he negotiated with himself?

I don't think he negotiates, I think he has free reign from the owners to bring in players he has on his books.

Right but someone has to sign off..

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Hound » 31 Jul 2020 11:16

Can't really remember. I think he suggested it was someone above him though - ie the owners or whatever advisors they have

Were Puscas or Joao anything to do with Kia? Or Ovie for that matter?


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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2020 11:55

Hopefully, the people running the club are finally getting the right message through to him.

Wigan being relegated for financials after being firmly mid-table otherwise may have helped. Or the big decrease in revenue from Covid.

Gate money etc is tiny compared to our wage bill, but it's actually a pretty substantial part of our income.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Old Man Andrews » 31 Jul 2020 12:01

Chris Martin is officially now available on a free! We need to strike whilst the iron is hot!

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Nameless » 31 Jul 2020 12:26

Old Man Andrews Chris Martin is officially now available on a free! We need to strike whilst the iron is hot!


Agreed, let’s issue a formal ‘not interested’ statement and avoid signing him accidentally

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2020 12:32

Didn't know Coldplay had split


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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Jul 2020 12:59

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Old Man Andrews Chris Martin is officially now available on a free! We need to strike whilst the iron is hot!


Agreed, let’s issue a formal ‘not interested’ statement and avoid signing him accidentally

I'll sign.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Old Man Andrews » 31 Jul 2020 13:00

Snowflake Royal Didn't know Coldplay had split

Ian dusting off his 2008 joke book.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Sutekh » 31 Jul 2020 13:04

Old Man Andrews Chris Martin is officially now available on a free! We need to strike whilst the iron is hot!


Now 31 and struck 11 in 36 league appearances this last season. Now he’s over his illness problem then he’s probably as good as the club might be able to afford.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2020 13:06

No. No. And very much NO!

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Hendo » 31 Jul 2020 13:13

I'd rather we either;

- Signed nobody

or

- An unknown kid from Sporting's U23 team

Than even think about Martin again.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Old Man Andrews » 31 Jul 2020 13:16

I would rather the club fold than sign Chris Martin.

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Re: Squad for 2020/21

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2020 15:35

I have no problem with Martin.

My problem is
- we have more than enough strikers on the books
- we need to cut the wage bill
- his age
- the amount a player of his experience would expect to earn

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