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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by SCIAG » 14 Jul 2022 20:38

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Ince, Hoilett and Ejaria have little record of substantial goal numbers we can rely on.

Ince has a pretty good goal record for a winger - 82 goals at this level in 327 appearances. You can easily spin that into a much more positive or negative number of course (his record was much better before he joined Stoke), but I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't have a record of scoring a substantial number of goals.

Hoilett's spent 40% of his career playing in the Premier League (and that number is kept low by a couple of loan spells when he was a teenager). 265 games at this level, 40 goals. Again though, bit of a drop off in the last few years (5 in 48). One in ~six isn't amazing but would still get to six or seven in a full season, which would be handy in a relegation scrap. One in ten, granted, would be a let down.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Jul 2022 20:59

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Ince, Hoilett and Ejaria have little record of substantial goal numbers we can rely on.

Ince has a pretty good goal record for a winger - 82 goals at this level in 327 appearances. You can easily spin that into a much more positive or negative number of course (his record was much better before he joined Stoke), but I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't have a record of scoring a substantial number of goals.

Hoilett's spent 40% of his career playing in the Premier League (and that number is kept low by a couple of loan spells when he was a teenager). 265 games at this level, 40 goals. Again though, bit of a drop off in the last few years (5 in 48). One in ~six isn't amazing but would still get to six or seven in a full season, which would be handy in a relegation scrap. One in ten, granted, would be a let down.

Admittedly I didn't do much of a stats dive on those two mostly went with how they performed with us...

But put another way, how many players in our squad do you think you could reasonably rely on to score more than 5 goals and more than 10 goals in a season. Because I think the answer is the same to both. Joao and Meite only. I think we've got a decent bunch who could knock in at the 3-5 mark. But I do think the vast majority will have to come from those two.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Hound » 14 Jul 2022 21:30

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Ince, Hoilett and Ejaria have little record of substantial goal numbers we can rely on.

Ince has a pretty good goal record for a winger - 82 goals at this level in 327 appearances. You can easily spin that into a much more positive or negative number of course (his record was much better before he joined Stoke), but I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't have a record of scoring a substantial number of goals.

Hoilett's spent 40% of his career playing in the Premier League (and that number is kept low by a couple of loan spells when he was a teenager). 265 games at this level, 40 goals. Again though, bit of a drop off in the last few years (5 in 48). One in ~six isn't amazing but would still get to six or seven in a full season, which would be handy in a relegation scrap. One in ten, granted, would be a let down.

Admittedly I didn't do much of a stats dive on those two mostly went with how they performed with us...

But put another way, how many players in our squad do you think you could reasonably rely on to score more than 5 goals and more than 10 goals in a season. Because I think the answer is the same to both. Joao and Meite only. I think we've got a decent bunch who could knock in at the 3-5 mark. But I do think the vast majority will have to come from those two.


Same as last year with Swift and Joao really

We’ll need Ince, Ejaria and co to score a reasonable amount (ie 5ish each) this seaosn and think they will. Also need to get goals from CB

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 14 Jul 2022 23:26

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SCIAG Ince has a pretty good goal record for a winger - 82 goals at this level in 327 appearances. You can easily spin that into a much more positive or negative number of course (his record was much better before he joined Stoke), but I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't have a record of scoring a substantial number of goals.

Hoilett's spent 40% of his career playing in the Premier League (and that number is kept low by a couple of loan spells when he was a teenager). 265 games at this level, 40 goals. Again though, bit of a drop off in the last few years (5 in 48). One in ~six isn't amazing but would still get to six or seven in a full season, which would be handy in a relegation scrap. One in ten, granted, would be a let down.

Admittedly I didn't do much of a stats dive on those two mostly went with how they performed with us...

But put another way, how many players in our squad do you think you could reasonably rely on to score more than 5 goals and more than 10 goals in a season. Because I think the answer is the same to both. Joao and Meite only. I think we've got a decent bunch who could knock in at the 3-5 mark. But I do think the vast majority will have to come from those two.


Same as last year with Swift and Joao really

We’ll need Ince, Ejaria and co to score a reasonable amount (ie 5ish each) this seaosn and think they will. Also need to get goals from CB

Yeah, I know goals wasn’t the main problem, but 11 and 10 followed by 4 isn't good enough by any stretch..

Stick Tommy Mac in the box for corners all season and I could see him getting 5 or 6 maybe.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by blythspartan » 15 Jul 2022 08:05

Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp


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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 15 Jul 2022 09:04

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Snowflake Royal Admittedly I didn't do much of a stats dive on those two mostly went with how they performed with us...

But put another way, how many players in our squad do you think you could reasonably rely on to score more than 5 goals and more than 10 goals in a season. Because I think the answer is the same to both. Joao and Meite only. I think we've got a decent bunch who could knock in at the 3-5 mark. But I do think the vast majority will have to come from those two.


Same as last year with Swift and Joao really

We’ll need Ince, Ejaria and co to score a reasonable amount (ie 5ish each) this seaosn and think they will. Also need to get goals from CB

Yeah, I know goals wasn’t the main problem, but 11 and 10 followed by 4 isn't good enough by any stretch..

Stick Tommy Mac in the box for corners all season and I could see him getting 5 or 6 maybe.


If the likes of Hoilett, Ince, Ejaria and Long can get substantial minutes this season, I don't see why each of them couldn't contribute half a dozen goal contributions each minimum really, I'd be relatively disappointed if they don't do that, but that depends on how often they play, injuries, consistency of selection etc.

If we can get some use from corners from defenders then that will help us as well. Got to remember, most teams around us don't have 2 reliable goalscorers that can hit 15+ in a season like we know Meite and Joao could do, fitness depending of course.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by NewCorkSeth » 15 Jul 2022 10:02

blythspartan Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp

Now there's reports he's joining Chelsea..

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by WestYorksRoyal » 15 Jul 2022 10:05

blythspartan Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp

Is the basis for the article simply that he's been left off a tour? :|

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by blythspartan » 15 Jul 2022 15:59

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blythspartan Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp

Is the basis for the article simply that he's been left off a tour? :|


Yes, it is really. It was mentioned a couple of months ago that we were looking to sign him and then it transpired that Arsenal wanted to keep him for their Europa League games. JLow is just doing what the media do best but he would be a good addition to the squad.


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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 15 Jul 2022 16:19

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blythspartan Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp

Is the basis for the article simply that he's been left off a tour? :|


Yes, it is really. It was mentioned a couple of months ago that we were looking to sign him and then it transpired that Arsenal wanted to keep him for their Europa League games. JLow is just doing what the media do best but he would be a good addition to the squad.


Yeah if it ever came off he seems like a talent with versatility and can play/cover in that coveted AM position that we feel like we need to have some depth in and he would hopefully have a bit of creativity about him. I can see it as one that's dead in the water, as has been said its trying to resurrect something due to a change in circumstance.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Pepe the Horseman » 15 Jul 2022 17:58

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blythspartan Talk of this lad again. I would love to see us sign him as an Arsenal supporting mate reckons he’s going to be something special.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... 491194.amp

Now there's reports he's joining Chelsea..

Confrimed. Still a chance we could get him on loan I spose.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 16 Jul 2022 08:25

Current summary of the Reading squads….

First team

Loans

Femi Azeez - FW - to summer 2024
Dean Bouzanis - GK - to summer 2025
Scott Dann - DF - to summer 2023
Ovie Ejaria - MF - to summer 2024
Tyrese Fornah - MF to summer 2023
Jeff Hendrick - MF to summer 2023
Junior Hoilett - FW - to summer 2023
Tom Holmes - DF - to summer 2025
Tom Ince - FW - to summer 2025
Lucas João - FW - to summer 2023
Shane Long - FW - to summer 2023
Joe Lumley - GK to summer 2023
Tom McIntyre - DF - to summer 2024
Yakou Méïté - FW - to summer 2023
Liam Moore - DF - to summer 2023
George Pușcaș - FW - to summer 2024
Luke Southwood - GK - to summer 2023
Dejan Tetek - MF - to summer 2023
Andy Yiadom - DF - to summer 2025

u23s

Nelson Abbey - DF
Kelvin Abrefa - DF
Jökull Andrésson - GK
Mamadi Camara - FW
Coniah Boyce-Clarke - GK
Harvey Collins - GK
Jahmari Clarke - FW
John Clarke - DF
Michael Craig - MF
Jeriel Dorsett - DF
Kelvin Ehibhatiomhan - FW
Louie Holzman - DF
Kacper Kowalczyk - GK
Kian Leavy - MF
Nahum Melvin-Lambert - FW
Claudio Osorio - MF
Ben Purcell - MF
Imari Samuels - DF
Rashawn Scott - MF
Jack Senga-Ngoyi - MF
Michael Stickland - DF

u18s

Hamid Abdul-Salam - MF
Jordan Addo-Antoine - DF
Boyd Beacroft - DF
Jacob Borgnis - MF
Ryley Campbell - MF
Kyle Daniel-Spray - DF
Princewill Ehibhatiomhan - FW reported to be moving to Brighton
Blesk Ekpenyong - MF
Harrison Furlong - MF
Ajani Giscombe - MF
Ashton Greaver - FW
Louis Hutchings - MF
Abraham Kanu - DF
Harvey Maunder - FW
Troy Murray - MF
Zion Nditi - DF
Junior Nkwonta - DF
Tom Norcott - GK
David Nyarko - FW
Jeremiah Olise-Peters - FW
Sam Paul - MF
Matt Rowley - DF
Basil Tuma - MF
Cayman Vickers - FW

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 17 Jul 2022 09:19

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fred sharpes nose Any chance this excellent list can be updated for the occasional viewer/hard of hearing given all the comings and goings with senior and junior players ?


I can no longer edit the original post, but here's an update for you.

Updated:


Academy players
Actively looking to move on

Goalkeeper
Lumley
Bouzanis
Southwood
Andresson
Boyce-Clarke

Fullbacks
Yiadom
Abrefa

Centrebacks
Dann
McIntyre
Holmes
Clarke
Moore
Dorsett
Abbey
Stickland

Midfield
Tetek
Fornah
Hendricks
Ejaria
Leavy
Osorio
Craig

Wide
Meite
T Ince
Azeez
Hoilett
Camara
Scott

Strikers
Joao
Long
Puscas
Melvin-Lambert
Ehibhatiomhan
Clarke

Team?
.......................Lumley
Yiadom, Holmes, Dann, McIntyre
...........Hendricks, Fornah
Ince.................Ejaria..............Meite
.........................Joao

Subs: Bouzanis, Abrefa, Dorsett, Tetek, Hoilett, Long, Azeez


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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Snowflake Royal » 17 Jul 2022 09:22

Bit confused that we've not seen any of Camara and Dorsett with the first team in preseason.

Camara in particular we had to persuade into signing a new deal and looked fairly comfortable in some cameos last season.

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Zip » 17 Jul 2022 09:57

Snowflake Royal Bit confused that we've not seen any of Camara and Dorsett with the first team in preseason.

Camara in particular we had to persuade into signing a new deal and looked fairly comfortable in some cameos last season.


Yeah me too. A bit disappointing they haven't been involved

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Sutekh » 17 Jul 2022 10:05

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Snowflake Royal Bit confused that we've not seen any of Camara and Dorsett with the first team in preseason.

Camara in particular we had to persuade into signing a new deal and looked fairly comfortable in some cameos last season.


Yeah me too. A bit disappointing they haven't been involved


Presumably injured then?

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Zip » 17 Jul 2022 10:13

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Snowflake Royal Bit confused that we've not seen any of Camara and Dorsett with the first team in preseason.

Camara in particular we had to persuade into signing a new deal and looked fairly comfortable in some cameos last season.


Yeah me too. A bit disappointing they haven't been involved


Presumably injured then?


Not convinced they are

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by morganb » 17 Jul 2022 10:37

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Yeah me too. A bit disappointing they haven't been involved


Presumably injured then?


Not convinced they are


When the first team were training at St George's Park, Camara and Dorsett were named as training with the U23s

A number of other young players on professional contracts will remain at Bearwood Park to train with Noel Hunt’s Under-23s and build their fitness back at base – Jeriel Dorsett, Mamadi Camara, Nelson Abbey, Michael Craig are amongst those who will be putting in the hard yards in Berkshire


https://www.readingfc.co.uk//news/2022/ ... ge-s-park/

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Zip » 17 Jul 2022 11:30

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Presumably injured then?


Not convinced they are


When the first team were training at St George's Park, Camara and Dorsett were named as training with the U23s

A number of other young players on professional contracts will remain at Bearwood Park to train with Noel Hunt’s Under-23s and build their fitness back at base – Jeriel Dorsett, Mamadi Camara, Nelson Abbey, Michael Craig are amongst those who will be putting in the hard yards in Berkshire


https://www.readingfc.co.uk//news/2022/ ... ge-s-park/


Yep a shame really

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Re: Squad Watch 2022/23

by Hound » 17 Jul 2022 11:45

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Not convinced they are


When the first team were training at St George's Park, Camara and Dorsett were named as training with the U23s

A number of other young players on professional contracts will remain at Bearwood Park to train with Noel Hunt’s Under-23s and build their fitness back at base – Jeriel Dorsett, Mamadi Camara, Nelson Abbey, Michael Craig are amongst those who will be putting in the hard yards in Berkshire


https://www.readingfc.co.uk//news/2022/ ... ge-s-park/


Yep a shame really


A shame but being as we’ve just signed both on (Dorsett extended) sure they must be in the plans to some extent

Suspect a minor injury of some kind - or was Camara playing some internationals?

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