Why don't we sell Federici?

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Why don't we sell Federici?

by NR_Royal » 16 Aug 2010 13:23

He's slow, makes too many crucial mistakes, he's beaten at his near post time and time again and he doesn't inspire much confidence in the team and the fans. Sure he pulls off the odd great save but so do most keepers. We have 3 supposedly excellent keepers at our disposal in Hamer, Andersen and McCarthy and I really think we'd be better of if we sell Federici for around £2 million if anyone wants him in order to fund a centre-back and his wages.

This makes sense, doesn't it? :shock:

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by M Brook » 16 Aug 2010 13:30

Yes.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Tony Le Mesmer » 16 Aug 2010 13:34

Mate, its a no brainer.

Doubt we would get £2m though, thats paper talk i think. But even so, we would look far better with Hamer in goal and decent back up with £1m to spend on a decent CB.

I am still certain we will sign a CB and prob sell to fund it. Just makes no sense to go with the squad balance we have.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Stranded » 16 Aug 2010 13:48

Because somebody would actually want to buy him first?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by loyalroyal4life » 16 Aug 2010 14:00

Stranded Because somebody would actually want to buy him first?


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by fester_royal » 16 Aug 2010 14:04

Tony Le Mesmer Mate, its a no brainer.

Doubt we would get £2m though, thats paper talk i think. But even so, we would look far better with Hamer in goal and decent back up with £1m to spend on a decent CB.

I am still certain we will sign a CB and prob sell to fund it. Just makes no sense to go with the squad balance we have.



if we sold any player the chances of the profits being used to purchase players are slim to none at best!

it'll all be used to pay off that never ending debt... you know the one.. we incured it when we spent bug all in the premier league!

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by paultheroyal » 16 Aug 2010 15:07

God help us if Hamer becomes first choice.

We have an international keeper, that is well thought of, he plays for Reading and I for one hope it stays that way!

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Fox Talbot » 16 Aug 2010 15:12

Yes - sell him, buy a CB (and a LB if there's change).

One of Hamer, Andersen, McCarthy is bound to work out.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by specialjon » 16 Aug 2010 15:23

Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Tony Le Mesmer » 16 Aug 2010 16:10

paultheroyal God help us if Hamer becomes first choice.



On what grounds?

We can not progress this season without addition(s) to the defence.

If we have to sell to buy, who would you sell instead? Or is sticking with 4 capable keepers and 1 capable/fit CB the way forward?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by brendywendy » 16 Aug 2010 16:15

paultheroyal God help us if Hamer becomes first choice.

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based on the one game where he looked nervy when he came on for an injured fed with 20 to go
or the 120 minutes of football more recently where he played a blinder and looked very assured


i wonder

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Jeffers217 » 16 Aug 2010 16:30

specialjon Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.


The club keep picking Alex Pearce instead of signing a quality prem centre back on loan. Yes of course I would rate my opinion above the staff at the club on that one so why do the fans always have to accept that the staff are more knowledgable than us! I thought Matejovsky and Karacan should have been our first choice midfield partnership the season we should have gone up instead of Cisse and Harper but the club decided differently. Am I willing to support the club? Yes. Am I willing to accept that that decision was correct just because they have coaching badges and I don't...NO!

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Stranded » 16 Aug 2010 16:40

brendywendy
paultheroyal God help us if Hamer becomes first choice.

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based on the one game where he looked nervy when he came on for an injured fed with 20 to go
or the 120 minutes of football more recently where he played a blinder and looked very assured


i wonder


Yeah but come on that 20 mins was on the tv - so it's far more important.


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Snowball » 16 Aug 2010 16:51

Has Hamer conceded a competitive goal for us?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by PlasticRoyale » 16 Aug 2010 16:58

Snowball Has Hamer conceded a competitive goal for us?


Ahh but how many has he scored?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by NR_Royal » 16 Aug 2010 17:04

specialjon Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.


Because if the club is to 'live within its means' then we have to sell to buy. I am willing to let one of our FOUR quality keepers go.

Hamer was Brentford's player of the season the season before last.
Andersen is a Danish U21 and won goalkeeper of the tournament at the 2010 Toulon Tournament. He also impressed last season on loan at Bristol Rovers.
McCarthy is an English U21 and did well at Yeovil.

We desperately need a centre-back and we keep being told that we have no funds. We'll continue to ship goals which will see us sit in midtable at best, and yet with a good CB, we could be challenging for promotion. And I really don't see how an ex-manager's attitude from years ago can be relevant at present. They probably picked him because he was the oldest of the lot. The others must have been very young years ago! I'm not denying that he's a decent keeper, he's just not worth keeping at the expense of the squad.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by brendywendy » 16 Aug 2010 17:10

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specialjon Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.


The club keep picking Alex Pearce instead of signing a quality prem centre back on loan. Yes of course I would rate my opinion above the staff at the club on that one so why do the fans always have to accept that the staff are more knowledgable than us! I thought Matejovsky and Karacan should have been our first choice midfield partnership the season we should have gone up instead of Cisse and Harper but the club decided differently. Am I willing to support the club? Yes. Am I willing to accept that that decision was correct just because they have coaching badges and I don't...NO!



despite karacan still not being quite ready, and matejovski playing plenty of games and scoring 1 goal, setting up a handful at best?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Hoop Blah » 16 Aug 2010 17:19

specialjon Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.



Bibbo - doesn't actually pick the team, he just coaches them and I'd have no idea how he rates the keepers we have.

Coppell - took Federici on as cheap cover for Hahnemann. He wasn't convinced at first and wouldn't offer him a contract until we were desperate. After having him at the club for sometime I think he felt he had to give him his chance. Interestingly though he opted for Hahnemann pretty much everytime he could. He probably couldn't/wouldn't afford to keep replace him.

McDermott - Hasn't had a chance to replace him. With the wealth of talent coming up behind Federici he'd probably be hard pressed to waste funds on another keeper without being able to get rid of him.

Holger Osieck - Has he actually picked an Australia squad yet? You do realise he's only been named as manager since their last game? Who else do they have at their disposal, apart from the 2 keepers obviously ahead of him in the pecking order?

I've no idea who the many more coaches are....

Personally I think Federici is a competant keeper at this level, but he's no where near as good as he appears to think he is and makes too many basic mistakes (which don't seem to be getting fewer) to be a top keeper at this level.

To call him an 'International Keeper' is also stretching the imagination a bit. Was Micheal Ricketts ever an international centre forward?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by seahawk10 » 16 Aug 2010 17:22

I see a Sal Bibbo show up on my facebook suggested adds. Is he worth sending a request to?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by andrew1957 » 16 Aug 2010 17:38

I know most posts on here are nothing more than hot air, but this thread is one of the most ridiculous ones and that really is quite an achievement.

FACT - Federici has done a good job and come from nowhere to establish himself as our number 1.

FACT - RFC have a huge problem. Fed is a good keeper but we have three up an coming youngsters that could all turn out to be even better than him.

If we were offered £2M I suspect we would take it, BUT no one as far as I have heard has even offered 50p for Fed yet, so it is irrelevant saying should we sell him - there are no buyers as far as we know.

The real question is will the club offer FED another deal. Interestingly we have not done so yet - most likely because we are hoping someone will offer good money for him before the close of the window. If we get to 1st Sept, however, a decision will have to be made. Do we extend Fed's contract for a couple more years - or do we let him run it down and go on a free. Those are the only options the club has.

The knock on effect is that if he stays then it is difficult to see how we can also keep Hamer happy as he understandably wants first team football - which is why he has not been given a new contract either yet.

It is a headache for the club and I have no idea what the resolution will be, but good luck to Fed whether he stays or goes - he has always given his all for the club and he has come a long way from sleeping on another player's (Sonko's I think) floor.

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