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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 13 Nov 2019 17:00

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Sutekh Almost, but not quite! They’ve actually only lost 2 that matter with Parky in charge. 1 at high flying Wycombe in his very first game and the other at a useful Shrewsbury a week later following a 5-0 win over Tranmere. The other defeats were actually a draw in the league cup (lost in penalties) and two likely “reserve” or experimental games in the “Simod cup” equivalent.

The next few will probably decide it for Sunderland fans with a trip to the Gills in the FA Cup and visits from Coventry and Burton in the league then another trip to the Gills followed by Blackpool and Bolton at home.

Utter drivel: "only lost 2 that matter" - every game matters, if you are happy to lose a game then you aren't a supporter. "a useful Shrewsbury" - they're mid-table! I think it's high time you took off the rose-tinted Parky specs before you make yourself look even more silly.


Are you talking about the same Shrewsbury with one defeat in eight? Against Wycombe away who subsequently went top after that game? That Shrewsbury, right?

For the record, there aren't many people that care about the EFL trophy and you can tell if you actually looked at the attendances

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 13 Nov 2019 17:02

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URZZZZ Thinking about penalties, when was the last time we actually scored a penalty? Surely it’s not Millwall (H) in October 2018?

Feels like we never ever get a penalty nowadays


Plymouth away


Meant in the league

There's only been two penalties awarded at the Madejski the whole of 2019. One for us against Cardiff, one against us for Swansea. They're only allowed to give penalties against Welsh teams...

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 13 Nov 2019 17:15

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 13 Nov 2019 17:17

Oh :oops:

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Re: Rival Watch

by WoodleyRoyal » 13 Nov 2019 19:24

Not like you to make a fool of yourself on here urzzzz....


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Re: Rival Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 13 Nov 2019 20:15

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Sutekh Almost, but not quite! They’ve actually only lost 2 that matter with Parky in charge. 1 at high flying Wycombe in his very first game and the other at a useful Shrewsbury a week later following a 5-0 win over Tranmere. The other defeats were actually a draw in the league cup (lost in penalties) and two likely “reserve” or experimental games in the “Simod cup” equivalent.

The next few will probably decide it for Sunderland fans with a trip to the Gills in the FA Cup and visits from Coventry and Burton in the league then another trip to the Gills followed by Blackpool and Bolton at home.

Utter drivel: "only lost 2 that matter" - every game matters, if you are happy to lose a game then you aren't a supporter. "a useful Shrewsbury" - they're mid-table! I think it's high time you took off the rose-tinted Parky specs before you make yourself look even more silly.

Let's face it, league games are the only ones that really matter, especially at that level.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 13 Nov 2019 22:19

WoodleyRoyal Not like you to make a fool of yourself on here urzzzz....


Not like you to make another irrelevant comment WoodleyRoyal...

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Re: Rival Watch

by John Smith » 14 Nov 2019 09:05

Snowflake Royal Let's face it, league games are the only ones that really matter, especially at that level.

I just feel, especially at this level, goals change games.

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Re: Rival Watch

by WoodleyRoyal » 14 Nov 2019 09:29

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WoodleyRoyal Not like you to make a fool of yourself on here urzzzz....


Not like you to make another irrelevant comment WoodleyRoyal...


It's not irrelevant though is it :lol: once again you've got something wrong. First up, you question when our last penalty was, I answer with Plymouth. You then move the goalposts and say 'in the league' then you come out with a 'fact' which is wrong also. :| wasn't it only last week other's were calling you out for some other bullshit? :roll:


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Re: Rival Watch

by Old Man Andrews » 14 Nov 2019 09:45

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WoodleyRoyal Not like you to make a fool of yourself on here urzzzz....


Not like you to make another irrelevant comment WoodleyRoyal...


It's not irrelevant though is it :lol: once again you've got something wrong. First up, you question when our last penalty was, I answer with Plymouth. You then move the goalposts and say 'in the league' then you come out with a 'fact' which is wrong also. :| wasn't it only last week other's were calling you out for some other bullshit? :roll:

Yeah Urzzzz has had a horrible month of posting, constantly wrong and arguing against facts. Feel quite sorry for him in all honesty.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 14 Nov 2019 13:48

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URZZZZ
WoodleyRoyal Not like you to make a fool of yourself on here urzzzz....


Not like you to make another irrelevant comment WoodleyRoyal...


It's not irrelevant though is it :lol: once again you've got something wrong. First up, you question when our last penalty was, I answer with Plymouth. You then move the goalposts and say 'in the league' then you come out with a 'fact' which is wrong also. :| wasn't it only last week other's were calling you out for some other bullshit? :roll:


There’s a difference in making a mistake (this example) and being a fool...your comment was just really not needed. That’s the gist of it

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Re: Rival Watch

by John Smith » 14 Nov 2019 14:16

URZZZZ Are you talking about the same Shrewsbury with one defeat in eight? Against Wycombe away who subsequently went top after that game? That Shrewsbury, right?

For the record, there aren't many people that care about the EFL trophy and you can tell if you actually looked at the attendances

You've completely contradicted yourself there because in those eight games you mention, that takes into account a game in the EFL Trophy.
Maybe you can stop posting on this forum and move to the Shrewsbury one, do everyone a favour.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 14 Nov 2019 14:27

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URZZZZ Are you talking about the same Shrewsbury with one defeat in eight? Against Wycombe away who subsequently went top after that game? That Shrewsbury, right?

For the record, there aren't many people that care about the EFL trophy and you can tell if you actually looked at the attendances

You've completely contradicted yourself there because in those eight games you mention, that takes into account a game in the EFL Trophy.
Maybe you can stop posting on this forum and move to the Shrewsbury one, do everyone a favour.


That’s not the point though is it? If you lose 1 game in 8 (whatever the competition) generally you’re considered to be on decent form and so a defeat away at them for Sunderland isn’t that’s surprising

The EFL trophy games aren’t that important though. You still want to see your side win in them but how many times do you see supporters say “losing in the cup isn’t that bad a thing so we can concentrate on the league”. So yeah, whilst Parkinson isn’t doing a great job so far, you have to factor in he’s only taken charge of 4 league games where managers are mostly judged on and in those he’s accumulated 6 points which isn’t a disaster


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Re: Rival Watch

by John Smith » 14 Nov 2019 14:34

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URZZZZ Are you talking about the same Shrewsbury with one defeat in eight? Against Wycombe away who subsequently went top after that game? That Shrewsbury, right?

For the record, there aren't many people that care about the EFL trophy and you can tell if you actually looked at the attendances

You've completely contradicted yourself there because in those eight games you mention, that takes into account a game in the EFL Trophy.
Maybe you can stop posting on this forum and move to the Shrewsbury one, do everyone a favour.


That’s not the point though is it? If you lose 1 game in 8 (whatever the competition) generally you’re considered to be on decent form and so a defeat away at them for Sunderland isn’t that’s surprising

The EFL trophy games aren’t that important though. You still want to see your side win in them but how many times do you see supporters say “losing in the cup isn’t that bad a thing so we can concentrate on the league”. So yeah, whilst Parkinson isn’t doing a great job so far, you have to factor in he’s only taken charge of 4 league games where managers are mostly judged on and in those he’s accumulated 6 points which isn’t a disaster

What are you talking about? They didn't lose 1 game in 8. Prior to the Sunderland game they had only won once in 5 games. I think you might want to go and lie down. This thread is about our rivals - Sunderland nor Shrewsbury are so let's keep on subject shall we, rather than descending in your drivel.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 14 Nov 2019 22:31

One to keep an eye on: Sheff Weds in big trouble over their ground sale/dodgy accounts

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ding-rules

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Re: Rival Watch

by tidus_mi2 » 14 Nov 2019 22:52

Suggested that if found guilty, the likely punishment would be a 21pt deduction.

Up to 16th!

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 15 Nov 2019 08:42

Hound One to keep an eye on: Sheff Weds in big trouble over their ground sale/dodgy accounts

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ding-rules


Yep, looks like the ground sale in itself is ok but they are alleged to have used some creative accounting as to when the sale proceeds were accounted for. Would expect a large points deduction given they have been charged with misconduct and not a breach of FFP rules.

If they get the reported potential 21 points, they will be bottom on 4 points, 10 points from safety.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 15 Nov 2019 08:44

I know we're similar - but its quite baffling how they can spend so much money and be so average.

I suppose they had the 2 play off years in a row, but can't really think of any big signings they've made since then. Maybe their wages are huge

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 15 Nov 2019 08:48

Hound I know we're similar - but its quite baffling how they can spend so much money and be so average.

I suppose they had the 2 play off years in a row, but can't really think of any big signings they've made since then. Maybe their wages are huge


I think that is their issue.

I can't imagine Westwood, Rhodes, Fletcher, Bannan, Nuhiu and Forestieri are on small wages.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Old Man Andrews » 15 Nov 2019 08:59

I seem to remember there was a period of time where Westwood couldn't play because it would have meant them paying out a huge amount of money to his former club and it would trigger a new deal for the player too. Since the old manager left he has started playing again so I can only assume he has taken them over what is acceptable in terms of FFP.

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