#SellBeforeWeDai (to someone fit and proper)“ supporters action group

[Clyde1998]

I've seen plenty of "you weren't complaining about all your overspending when you were in the premier league" comments on twitter. I think a lot of other clubs' fans really have no idea what's happened.

I was.

To be fair, loads were. I don't think many people thought Pog was worth a deal for £60k a week.

Well no but sadly can’t blame Yongge for that one…

With this regime I think a few eyebrows were raised at the Illori deal but certainly the Aluko one was the raising of alarm bells, even if obvs didn’t think it would get to this point then

I can't remember if Ilori was under Dai or just before, but it was rumoured to be around £3.75m.

A lot of the time the maximum transfer fee gets reported, as opposed to the initial transfer fee; Ilori may only have cost £2.5m (for example), with the remainder only paid if we got promoted. Apparently we sold him for €2.4m, so at the very worst we made around a £1.5m loss on him. Nowhere near our worst piece of business in recent years.

[Winston Biscuit]

I was.

To be fair, loads were. I don't think many people thought Pog was worth a deal for £60k a week.

Well no but sadly can’t blame Yongge for that one…

With this regime I think a few eyebrows were raised at the Illori deal but certainly the Aluko one was the raising of alarm bells, even if obvs didn’t think it would get to this point then

I can't remember if Ilori was under Dai or just before, but it was rumoured to be around £3.75m.

A lot of the time the maximum transfer fee gets reported, as opposed to the initial transfer fee

Absolutely. In the Champ there seems to always a hefty promotion bonus added on, and teams maybe don't care so much because if they got promoted to the PL they have won the lottery anyway.

People were going nuts at the Aluko fee but from what I understand 50% of it was a promotion fee and the other 50% incl add ons which were not even met

[WestYorksRoyal]

I was ambivalent about our spending if I'm honest. Would love to say I saw this coming, but of course i didn't. Clubs up and down the country are dependent on their owner and ours was a symptom, not a cause. The day we signed Joao and Puscas was exciting tbh. My main frustration was always how badly it was being spent more than anything else.

Part of me always hoped Dai would learn his lesson and we'd get the blend of competence and resources. Even the summer gone I thought there was a chance with Bowen, Carey and Dublin. I wasn't the only one - look at the players who agreed to join us.

What I will say is we never had moments that made this worthwhile. Look at Portsmouth - they won the FA Cup and hosted AC Milan for a competitive match. Those memories stay, and anyone who claims they wouldn't be able to enjoy them because of the financial situation is a liar. But we got nothing, when perhaps for the money we spent we should have.

[Brogue]

Reading fans have donated thousands towards a statue for port vale

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Reading fans have donated thousands towards a statue for port vale

Good on 'em. Just donated myself

[John Madejski's Wallet]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

[72 bus]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

[Reading4eva]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

They could be looking at a boat with significant defects in the Canaries for him already...

[72 bus]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

They could be looking at a boat with significant defects in the Canaries for him already...

SBWD are already onto it.

[Reading4eva]

Alan Pardew has just been talking about the situation on Talksport

https://youtu.be/HZPReI2SASs?si=AIqOTJt1ZmgBARPI

[Sutekh]

Reading fans have donated thousands towards a statue for port vale

Good on 'em. Just donated myself

What do you think they will do with you?

[WestYorksRoyal]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

What about Dayong Pang? He is UK based?

[Sutekh]

Alan Pardew has just been talking about the situation on Talksport

https://youtu.be/HZPReI2SASs?si=AIqOTJt1ZmgBARPI

Thanks Alan. Really not going to get a better advert than that!

[Sutekh]

So now we've had a game abandoned, which Dai is probably not going to give a fukk about, at what point do protests become more personal?

Like smashing the fukk out of his London mansion?

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

What about Dayong Pang? He is UK based?

But then he's not the organ grinder.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

It's rented mate, his whole fukking empire is smoke and mirrors which will become much cleared in the coming months.
You don't piss off the People's Bank of China and get away with it.

What about Dayong Pang? He is UK based?

But then he's not the organ grinder.

True - but he does seem like the only person to get any sort of response out of Dai or any communication from him.

[WestYorksRoyal]

There does seem to be a false narrative that a lot of the media have fallen for that Dai's 2 other clubs went bust before the EFL approved him, when they folded in 2020 and 2021 respectively.

Puts them on the back foot I guess. Same as the £350m Brexit bus; arguing it's only half that doesn't cut the mustard with your opponents. If the false narrative pushes the EFL into having to explain what their process was in approving him, so be it.

[traff]

What about Dayong Pang? He is UK based?

But then he's not the organ grinder.

True - but he does seem like the only person to get any sort of response out of Dai or any communication from him.

Not sure he is anything but a mouthpiece of misdirection. As soon as he brings out a statement you know more s*** is about to hit the fan from a different angle.
So similar to watching the Russian propaganda machine in action.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Ultimate responsibility rests with Dai, but short of sending a firm to Hong Kong he's hard to reach directly. Pang is CEO who has a lot of blood on his hands and culpability. Taking the fight to him is the next best option. We should probably also make clear that every time Dai sets foot in this country we'll give him hell, for the rest of his life if we go bust.

[Stranded]

Ultimate responsibility rests with Dai, but short of sending a firm to Hong Kong he's hard to reach directly. Pang is CEO who has a lot of blood on his hands and culpability. Taking the fight to him is the next best option. We should probably also make clear that every time Dai sets foot in this country we'll give him hell, for the rest of his life if we go bust.

Aren't Pang and Dai on other sides of a court case at the moment - Dai owes money to a company that Pang runs, or Pang is the UK designate for?

Not sure that really helps the situation in terms of getting this all sorted in the way we want.

[Snowflake Royal]

Reading fans have donated thousands towards a statue for port vale

Good on 'em. Just donated myself

Same.