The not renewing ST list

[weybridgewanderer]

anyone who can pay for a lap dance can afford a ST

If Nigel Howe takes me into a private room, plys me with gin and tonics, gets his tits out and rubs them in my face, I might buy a season ticket.

What club do you go to where the dancers ply you with drink?

The clubs I go to I end up plying the dancers with drink

[RoyalBlue]

the credit scheme

Obviously worth noting that when we were struggling to half fill the ground the credit scheme offered incurred one fee [?£20] for all tickets bought. Now it incurs a fee per ticket...

Sure, the club is a business and this will maximise profits. .

Not sure it will make the club any money (directly) as the current scheme is run by a third party whereas before it was run by the club.

I know the club stopped running the scheme at least partly because the admin headache in chasing all the people who got their ticket and then failed to keep up with payments was to big.

It would be great if there was an interest free credit scheme (like you can get with certain football cards) but at least part of the blame for there not being is done to the few who as ever spoil it for the many

Although I don't disagree with the bit about the few spoiling it for the many, how much admin work would there be in deactivating the member cards of any defaulters? If they were smart, the deferred payment Ts & Cs would also give them the right to resell the tickets of any defaulters.

[Dirk Gently]

the credit scheme

Obviously worth noting that when we were struggling to half fill the ground the credit scheme offered incurred one fee [?£20] for all tickets bought. Now it incurs a fee per ticket...

Sure, the club is a business and this will maximise profits. .

Not sure it will make the club any money (directly) as the current scheme is run by a third party whereas before it was run by the club.

I know the club stopped running the scheme at least partly because the admin headache in chasing all the people who got their ticket and then failed to keep up with payments was to big.

It would be great if there was an interest free credit scheme (like you can get with certain football cards) but at least part of the blame for there not being is done to the few who as ever spoil it for the many

Although I don't disagree with the bit about the few spoiling it for the many, how much admin work would there be in deactivating the member cards of any defaulters? If they were smart, the deferred payment Ts & Cs would also give them the right to resell the tickets of any defaulters.

If only it was that simple in real life. You can be sure at 3.01 pm on a match day there'd be people banging on the door demanding to be let in and saying they'd made all the payments (whether they had or not!) - oh, and on the line to Andrew Peach and the EP the next day.

[Behindu]

Although I don't disagree with the bit about the few spoiling it for the many, how much admin work would there be in deactivating the member cards of any defaulters? If they were smart, the deferred payment Ts & Cs would also give them the right to resell the tickets of any defaulters.

I guess it just needs time to think through all the other implications !
I know someone who was working on the follow ups and they had to speak to all sorts of people, some of whom had genuine reasons why the payments hadn't gone through (bank errors !). To just disable and resell the tickets of everyone who missed a payment would have seen endless HNA threads complaining about how badly the club had treated people !

[Silver Fox]

With the full backing of RoyalBlue I'd imagine?

[kevan]

Agreed, it's a lot of dosh for my family of 4 to go home, away and cup season tickets.

But what is the value of having both your teenage kids choose to spend every Saturday in the season with you, of having them finally understand Geography (the only way they know where anything is in the uk is by football grounds).

What is the value of your wife not banging on about Big Broher and turning over to Match of the Day for preference.

What is the value of the weekday conversations about the club and the match, the connections with other supporters in motorway service stations, business meetngs and chance conversations.

What is he value of the glory.

Priceless.

I am available for sponsorship by the club and /or Mastercard

[Riseley]

Like Woodcote Royal I pay for my ST by collecting the loose change found under sofa cushions and in the car. I know of two people who will not renew. One is a pensioner who lives 90 mins from Reading and is short of the disposable income and the other has become disillusioned with the 'glorious game'. I have sympathy with both but quote Mr Mad, 'Many avid fans have missed out on watching RFC'. As Mad is never wrong I predict another 18 odd sell outs next season.

[West Stand Man]

Anyone who doesn't renew is either;
- genuinely hard up and cannot afford the cost.
- naive, if they think that they'll get to see many games next season. It can be very difficult to buy them by the game.
- stupid enough to believe that there will be plenty of spare tickets.
- not really a fan anyway, so they don't care if they don't get to see the games.
- moving on to some where that is too far away to make it worthwhile assuming that they will be able to travel regularly.

What's the difference between 2 and 3?

There is a difference between naivety and stupidity, thats all.

[Maguire]

I still haven't renewed and can't decide whether or not I'm going to do so. The decision to not renew is the hard part. Once I don't have a ST then I think I'll quickly get used to not going.

[Coppelled Streets]

anyone who can pay for a lap dance can afford a ST

If Nigel Howe takes me into a private room, plys me with gin and tonics, gets his tits out and rubs them in my face, I might buy a season ticket.

What club do you go to where the dancers ply you with drink?

The clubs I go to I end up plying the dancers with drink

Karen Brady at Birmingham has a lot to answer for!

I still haven't renewed and can't decide whether or not I'm going to do so. The decision to not renew is the hard part. Once I don't have a ST then I think I'll quickly get used to not going.

If not for the football, it's a good laugh out with mates each weekend. Unless they too are thinking of pubbing it instead?

[rob the royal]

Krystell Sidwell

[The whole year inn]

No writing, either write down the people who you know are not renewing*, or ignore. I'll start

Me
My dad


*EDIT

This will leave your Saturdays free to concentrate on your obsession with all things related to Liverpool.

[LoyalRoyal22]

I have re-newed.

[RoyalBlue]

With the full backing of RoyalBlue I'd imagine?

Oh very droll!

If they can't stand the heat - get out of the kitchen!

Guess what, running a multi-million pound business isn't always easy and sometimes involves a bit of work to tackle problems in a sensible and effective manner. But then football isn't really a proper business is it. Due to the blind loyalty of most of its customers it can get away with far more than other businesses where there is proper competition for customers.

To avoid the 'nightmare' scenario cited, a letter sent to the registered address of the defaulting customer advising them that there is a problem with their payments and asking them to contact the club by a certain date to sort it out (normal business practice). Failure to respond results in season ticket being de-activated. No sympathy from me for anyone caught that way.

Trouble is, if I recall from previous threads, in some cases the club/its bankers seemed to be at fault themselves for not collecting payments that people had authorised!! Could that be why they really decided not to administer things themselves this season?

[Behindu]

To avoid the 'nightmare' scenario cited, a letter sent to the registered address of the defaulting customer advising them that there is a problem with their payments and asking them to contact the club by a certain date to sort it out (normal business practice). Failure to respond results in season ticket being de-activated. No sympathy from me for anyone caught that way.

Interesting, from what I understand you'd be OK with the club doing less than they have done in order to try and ensure people don't miss out on games ?
I don't disagree, and think possibly a policy could be sent out to people when they sign up for the installment option stating that one missed payment will result in a warning letter, failure to pay that installement withing 1 month, or a second missed payment, would result in suspension which could only be lifted by payment in full.
The onus should be put on the fan to ensure the club has the correct address.

[Maguire]

12,000 renewals so far, quoted by TO employee today. They're going to have a busy week methinks.

[Wycombe Royal]

I'm sure lots of being won't renew now because we have sold our record signing. They will see it as a lack of ambition.

[Gloria Gooner]

Whilst wearing my tin hat to avoid the flak - I had the chance of an ST last season but had to decline. The official website says new STs will be going to membercard holders, but I don't have one of those either. Does anyone know if STs will be going on general sale (I realise my chance of getting one is slim to none, but worth a go).

[Turns8]

Difficult to say Glo...The club will go through all the member card holders I guess and then if there are still spaces they may well go on general sale...however, I would say unlikely...

[TFF]

Whilst wearing my tin hat to avoid the flak - I had the chance of an ST last season but had to decline. The official website says new STs will be going to membercard holders, but I don't have one of those either. Does anyone know if STs will be going on general sale (I realise my chance of getting one is slim to none, but worth a go).

I don't think you can even buy a match ticket without a member card.

Get one.

As for a season ticket,

New Season Tickets will be sold to existing Member Card holders, based on the number of Royalty Points held by the supporters wishing to purchase them.

I can't see them going on "general sale".