Womens euros 2022 thread

[6ft Kerplunk]

Keira Walsh is quality. Doesn't really seem to be getting the plaudits, but that pass for Toone's goal was excellent.

Yep, just quietly gets on with running the game without anyone noticing. The time we struggled the most against Spain was because they made sure she was under pressure whenever the ball went near her.

[Greatwesternline]

Trying to interview young players when they are celebrating, fuck off.

This annoys me a lot. Best moment in many people's lives diluted because some TV crew is desperate for some content. Never sure why the players agree to it.

[Greatwesternline]

Yup, 2 WW, 1 World Cup and now a Euro

Up yours St P

Given 2009 I think the Euros are now cancelled out.

[Greatwesternline]

Congrats to the English Women's football team, a great win over the old enemy, also congrats due to both teams for ditching the Political BLM knee gesture, Gareth Southgate please take note.

The did the knee. You blind racist. Right at the moment the RAF did the fly over.

[Uke]

Prince William looking at the trophy and thinking about where he could put it

Unnecessary. William was obviously as excited as most fans in the stadium, and that showed in how he greeted the team.

Disappointed in the commentators too.

The camera panned to Prince William at full time and not one of them said “it’s level pegging”

[WestYorksRoyal]

Who decided Player of The Tournament?

It was clearly Williamson. Beth Mead had a good tournament but in flashy bursts.

Williamson was absolute class from beginning to end. Apparently didn’t make a single tackle during the whole tournament (which is hard to believe, but that’s what was said) but that’s because she read everything so well.

Imperious.

Williamson and Walsh are basically the difference between England's women's and men's teams. If the men had 2 players in those roles of that quality, we would be a match for anybody.

[windermereROYAL]

Who was the guy sitting next to Wills? while he jumped up and celebrated the goals the other guy stayed seated like he found 10 quid and lost 20.
I assume he was the German representative.

[Millsy]

Here to say MASSIVE congrats to our women!!!!!!

Absolutely brilliant game, the grit, the determination, the quality. They did us proud!

Surprised and saddened to see this thread is only 7 pages long, but I'm guilty for never having contributed myself. Shame on me. Respect to women's football. May it just go from strength to strength and one day match the men's in terms of support and money and importance etc.

[Greatwesternline]

Who was the guy sitting next to Wills? while he jumped up and celebrated the goals the other guy stayed seated like he found 10 quid and lost 20.
I assume he was the German representative.

Aleksander Ceferin, President of UEFA

[WestYorksRoyal]

May it just go from strength to strength and one day match the men's in terms of support and money and importance etc.

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

It would also be more competitive, as otherwise a few big clubs will dominate the women's game as they do the men.

[Greatwesternline]

May it just go from strength to strength and one day match the men's in terms of support and money and importance etc.

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

£20k is only too low if there is the revenue to pay for it. Does women's football generate much revenue to pay people higher salaries than the national average?

Non-famous county cricketers earn much the same, because a pittance is all that their level of the sport generates. The salaries basically get paid by the ECB to maintain a sport below the elite level to allow new elite players to come through.

Perhaps women's football requires the same.

[Dirk Gently]

I remember a couple of weeks ago the standard being compared to L2. Well I'd be chuffed if Reading scored a goal like Toone's tonight, let alone L2.

The delicate chip over the keeper is a thing of beauty that you rarely see in the men's game these days. Maybe it's down to the relative size of the goalkeepers.

[Millsy]

May it just go from strength to strength and one day match the men's in terms of support and money and importance etc.

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

£20k is only too low if there is the revenue to pay for it. Does women's football generate much revenue to pay people higher salaries than the national average?

Non-famous county cricketers earn much the same, because a pittance is all that their level of the sport generates. The salaries basically get paid by the ECB to maintain a sport below the elite level to allow new elite players to come through.

Perhaps women's football requires the same.

I'm not saying so much they get up to the same crazy heights of pay as men's football. That's ridiculous and needs to change.

I'm just saying money in the game generally. When I was a kid England Women footballers had full time jobs and did footy on the side. Now they're pros. It's a good trend.

[Greatwesternline]

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

£20k is only too low if there is the revenue to pay for it. Does women's football generate much revenue to pay people higher salaries than the national average?

Non-famous county cricketers earn much the same, because a pittance is all that their level of the sport generates. The salaries basically get paid by the ECB to maintain a sport below the elite level to allow new elite players to come through.

Perhaps women's football requires the same.

I'm not saying so much they get up to the same crazy heights of pay as men's football. That's ridiculous and needs to change.

I'm just saying money in the game generally. When I was a kid England Women footballers had full time jobs and did footy on the side. Now they're pros. It's a good trend.

of course, im just thinking, what is the right amount, does a WSL player deserve more than a county cricketer? Any sports person gets paid as much as advertisers and paying punters think they're worth basically.

[Dirk Gently]

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

£20k is only too low if there is the revenue to pay for it. Does women's football generate much revenue to pay people higher salaries than the national average?

Non-famous county cricketers earn much the same, because a pittance is all that their level of the sport generates. The salaries basically get paid by the ECB to maintain a sport below the elite level to allow new elite players to come through.

Perhaps women's football requires the same.

Gate revenue is only part of football's income, though - much more significant are broadcast and commercial/advertising revenue streams, and what the women have done will set them up nicely for a big increase in these which will up the overall salaries - and don't forget it's a European market, so players will migrate to where the money is. Other countries where there's a broader spectator base will increase salaries for all.

Plus individual deals will be done soon - expect Chloe Kelly to have a lucrative deal advertising sports bras any day now...

[Sanguine]

Feel sad for anyone who watched last night, and still thinks 'women should be played £20k pa to play football because their club can't generate more money than that.'

Maybe they just can't yet. Clearly where a player (Wilfried Zaha) can afford to pay the annual wage bill of his club's female squad from his pocket change, then something is amiss.

[Greatwesternline]

I get your point, but I quite like that women's football is more humble and not dominated by financial interests. Some pros are on £20k p.a. which is obviously too low, but equally there's no need for obscene amounts like the men.

£20k is only too low if there is the revenue to pay for it. Does women's football generate much revenue to pay people higher salaries than the national average?

Non-famous county cricketers earn much the same, because a pittance is all that their level of the sport generates. The salaries basically get paid by the ECB to maintain a sport below the elite level to allow new elite players to come through.

Perhaps women's football requires the same.

Gate revenue is only part of football's income, though - much more significant are broadcast and commercial/advertising revenue streams, and what the women have done will set them up nicely for a big increase in these which will up the overall salaries - and don't forget it's a European market, so players will migrate to where the money is. Other countries where there's a broader spectator base will increase salaries for all.

Plus individual deals will be done soon - expect Chloe Kelly to have a lucrative deal advertising sports bras any day now...

Pretty sure WSL TV figures will be back to their pre tournament figures soon enough. Everyone loves international success but it doesnt translate into watching it week in week out im pretty sure.

I think its more English exceptionalism to be honest. The women's game existed before this tournament. Why would the wider european women's game develop because england won it for the first time?

In March 2021 Sky signed the TV rights deal for the WSL for 3 seasons, for a total of £24 million. £8 million per year isnt going to go very far among 12 teams. That's the "biggest TV deal in women's football history" apparently. Maybe i'll be proved wrong and the viewing figures will increase. But they are on at the same times as men's matches. The curtain raiser is on Saturday 10th September at 12.30pm. Spurs v Man U. That's a clash with Chelsea v Fulham derby.

[Greatwesternline]

Feel sad for anyone who watched last night, and still thinks 'women should be played £20k pa to play football because their club can't generate more money than that.'

Maybe they just can't yet. Clearly where a player (Wilfried Zaha) can afford to pay the annual wage bill of his club's female squad from his pocket change, then something is amiss.

Welcome to capitalism.

[Sanguine]

Feel sad for anyone who watched last night, and still thinks 'women should be played £20k pa to play football because their club can't generate more money than that.'

Maybe they just can't yet. Clearly where a player (Wilfried Zaha) can afford to pay the annual wage bill of his club's female squad from his pocket change, then something is amiss.

Welcome to capitalism.

I understand capitalism. We chat about stuff here. You're intelligent. I can be at times. Up to you, but you don't need to do the patronising shit.

In the football ecosystem, elements of 'capitalism' can be affected, is my point.

[Greatwesternline]

Feel sad for anyone who watched last night, and still thinks 'women should be played £20k pa to play football because their club can't generate more money than that.'

Maybe they just can't yet. Clearly where a player (Wilfried Zaha) can afford to pay the annual wage bill of his club's female squad from his pocket change, then something is amiss.

Welcome to capitalism.

I understand capitalism. We chat about stuff here. You're intelligent. I can be at times. Up to you, but you don't need to do the patronising shit.

In the football ecosystem, elements of 'capitalism' can be affected, is my point.

I wasn't trying to be patronising. There's just a blur here between the warm afterglow of a tournament success and the reality of how sport works. Everyone love the British gold medal winning velodrome stars, but outside of the olympic fortnight they survive on lottery grants which are about £20k a year. plus funding for coaches.

It is capitalism. The football ecosystem is a ruthless capitalist machine. Clubs cut the entire womens set up when in administration because it doesnt pay any bills.

Maybe football should be applauded more for being the only sport outside of tennis that has established a professional womens sport without government subsidy.