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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by floyd__streete » 29 Jun 2010 22:45

SouthDownsRoyal shut up fLOLyd


Stinging rebuke from one of AE's finest.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Terminal Boardom » 29 Jun 2010 22:48

bigmike under the tin

smashing up Wembley stadium You really must be an england fan being that you enjoy Living in the past :roll:

as for the ordering a pint in Glasgow without getting a hostile reception.. Grow a Brain.. Anyone that orders a pint in Glasgow gets a hostile reception :lol:

The piss taking well that goes both ways If the media in england didnt hype the team up so much I would suspect the piss taking wouldnt be as bad. The majority of it is Banter.. The BBC and ITV coverage of this world cup has been laughable and so one sided.. Every game that was on they were showing England coverage at before the match, half time and full time.

Oh and before you say it.. Scotland Never even qualified ... there thats your only retourt out of the way. :lol: :lol: :lol:


With you BM on the banter. Anyone who sulks or reacts negatively to it should man, or woman up. Whenever I go to Scotland, I expect some stick. When I get it I smile or laugh and then give it back. I have to add that I have had nothing but excellent welcomes whenever I have been there. And the banter also appreciated!

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by bigmike » 30 Jun 2010 07:51

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bigmike ok since you have NEVER heard any England fan (drunk or not) threaten a Scottish person it doesnt happen?????

I have never seen someone get stabbed so going by that logic that doesnt happen either :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I think you will find I said Visit not Move. I also did not mention step children if you read above it says if you ... Jeez are you actually reading whats on here or are you reading what you want?

Infact dont answer that I know the answer from your previous posts :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Jeez - what is YOUR problem?? My point was that no, I haven't ever heard an England fan threaten a Scottish person. I know that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but you seem to be happy to deny that some English fans get similar treatment from the Scots. And it's all very well going to VISIT somewhere else in Scotland, but that doesn't help my step children who HAVE to live just outside Glasgow does it? :roll:



I am sure that what they are experiencing is not threats of physical violence every time the encounter someone who is Scottish.. If they are then they need to look in to reporting that to the relevant authoritys. If it is jibes maybe they should think up some retourts ???

I wasn't denying that English fans get similar treatment I was taking exception at the fact that you were tarring the whole of a country by the most run down and deprived cities in the country .

However I do not think that English fans do get treated the same way as Scottish fans especially when going to other countrys. That is mainly due to the fact that England has a recent history of causing trouble which seems to at long last have been delt with.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by bigmike » 30 Jun 2010 08:17

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bigmike The BBC and ITV coverage of this world cup has been laughable and so one sided.. Every game that was on they were showing England coverage at before the match, half time and full time.


Admittedly it is utterly tiresome hearing the views from inside the England camp at half time of every game, if only because not one of our players - with the possible exception of David James - ever has anything remotely interesting to say on any subject ever, but you'd expect the British Broadcasting Corporation to cover the only British team ever likely to qualify for the World Cup these days in some depth, wouldn't you? Apologies if that upsets the sweaties, taffs and micks. Laughable how much coverage the only British male player in the Wimbledon Men's Singles is getting, isn't it?


Ok so you find it acceptable that if you are tuning in to watch South Africa v Uruguay being treated to misty eyed reminiscences about the 1990 England v W Germany semi final . Whilst yes I agree it was a good Semi final I would expect the so called pundits to discuss what has happened in the first half...

Alan Shearer's self-proclaimed "expert analysis" that amounts to a conveyor belt of cliches and the kind of insight that even a child of six would describe as laughable.


Before the Algeria versus Slovenia game in Group C , Shearer seemed to be speaking for the entire BBC panel when he said, "Our knowledge of these two teams is limited." Limited! What the former striker was saying was that he hadn't done his homework, that he hadn't spoken to any of his vast array of contacts in the game, hadn't tapped into the BBC's huge research machinery, hadn't even bothered, seemingly, to peruse the internet for some background on Algeria and Slovenia or even flick through a newspaper or a magazine. Shearer was content to sit in front of the cameras and tell the viewers that, really, he didn't know much. Hardly a revelation for most of us but embarrassing all the same.

Why do the BBC deem that acceptable? Why is Shearer not taken aside and told, 'Listen, if you can't be bothered doing some research on this game then get lost'. It's a different, and entirely more professional story, on radio. They seem to do their homework on players

Clarence Seedorf was in the BBC studio for the Italy versus Paraguay match and he was making a point about the positive impact an Italian substitute had made on the game. He was referring to Antonio Di Natale, winner of more than 30 caps for the Azzurri and the leading goalscorer in Serie A in the season just gone, but Seedorf couldn't remember his name. Hadn't a clue. Neither did the blokes alongside him, Hansen among them. "He was the No 10," said a smiling Seedorf, who then reached for a team-sheet on the desk for help before realising that it was the Dutch team-sheet. "That's no use," he laughed.

If you think that your Licence fee has been well spent there then thats your opinion and you are entitled to that

As for ITV all I can say is Andy Townsend and Adrian Chilles ....

I Rest my case :wink:

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Hoop Blah » 30 Jun 2010 09:02

You do realise that on radio they're sat there with laptops open and notes out whilst they reel off stats and snippets they don't really know much about.

The guys on the TV have to look a bit slicker and they know bits about the teams but a bit of honesty and self depreciating humour is better than them trying to kid you they know what they're on about.


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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by bigmike » 30 Jun 2010 09:21

As much as I dont think the world cup should be on sky as it should be available to all.. I believe they would have done a far better job.

Why they dont use Motson I dont know.. No matter what you think of him he certainly knows his stuff he seems to do his homework

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Super_horns » 30 Jun 2010 10:12

Looks like the media will be giving the players some grilling for days to come!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-won.html

That's before calling them "the best" and raising expectations before the next set of qualifiers for 2012..or the tournament itself if we get there this time.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by soggy biscuit » 30 Jun 2010 10:25

Super_horns Looks like the media will be giving the players some grilling for days to come!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-won.html

That's before calling them "the best" and raising expectations before the next set of qualifiers for 2012..or the tournament itself if we get there this time.


Meanwhile his players also enjoyed a return to their pampered lifestyles, with Frank Lampard enjoying time with his TV presenter girlfriend Christine Bleakley


How dare Frank Lampard see his girlfriend.... how f**king dare he!!!!!!

DaiLOLy MaiLOL, Epic FaiLOL

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by bigmike » 30 Jun 2010 10:36

I suppose thats to be expected from the press in this country... At least Oliver HoLOLt is too busy writing about Stephen Hunt to jump on the these players are over paid bandwagon :lol:


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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Zammo » 30 Jun 2010 17:24

The real backlash starts in 14 days.......allegedly.

"Courts have held a further 2 week gagging order on steve gerrards private life, turns out he got his wifes sister pregnant (not a 16 year old )

Will hit the newspaper in 14 days, the judge held the gagging order to protect FA while they decide on capello, and the future of English footy..

John terry and the england boys all know about it and JT had a argument with capello because gerrard got to keep the captains armband. the tension in the camp was down to JT and half the team saying gerrard was a disgrace and the other half of the squad backing gerrard..The press conference was related to the tension and JT wanted Gerrard exposed - they hate each other..

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Sarah Star » 30 Jun 2010 17:46

So it's all Gerrard's fault then.

I blame JT. He started it.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by 6ft Kerplunk » 30 Jun 2010 17:56

There's a surprise, JT thinking its all about him. Selfish twat who think the world revolves around him <> a born leader. Didn't Capello take the captaincy off him because his actions had a direct impact on the squad not because he was shagging around.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 30 Jun 2010 19:49

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bigmike The BBC and ITV coverage of this world cup has been laughable and so one sided.. Every game that was on they were showing England coverage at before the match, half time and full time.


Admittedly it is utterly tiresome hearing the views from inside the England camp at half time of every game, if only because not one of our players - with the possible exception of David James - ever has anything remotely interesting to say on any subject ever, but you'd expect the British Broadcasting Corporation to cover the only British team ever likely to qualify for the World Cup these days in some depth, wouldn't you? Apologies if that upsets the sweaties, taffs and micks. Laughable how much coverage the only British male player in the Wimbledon Men's Singles is getting, isn't it?


Ok so you find it acceptable that if you are tuning in to watch South Africa v Uruguay being treated to misty eyed reminiscences about the 1990 England v W Germany semi final . Whilst yes I agree it was a good Semi final I would expect the so called pundits to discuss what has happened in the first half...

they discuss England because they are incapable of discussing anything else, mand as I said earlier, they seem equally incapable of believing that somebody who has turned on the tv to watch South Africa v Uruguay is actually interested in South Africa v Uruguay. I remember Mexico v Iran at the last world cup- their introduction was just a big joke about how nobody was interested in the game. They weren't interested, so the assumption was that nobody else would be.

Again, if Scotland had qualified as well, you'd just get pointless non-news from "the camps" rather than "the camp".

Yes it's a sign of a fixation on England/home nations, but it does in any way shape or form indicate the BBC believes England will win. It's what they've always done.

Alan Shearer's self-proclaimed "expert analysis" that amounts to a conveyor belt of cliches and the kind of insight that even a child of six would describe as laughable.

Before the Algeria versus Slovenia game in Group C , Shearer seemed to be speaking for the entire BBC panel when he said, "Our knowledge of these two teams is limited." Limited! What the former striker was saying was that he hadn't done his homework, that he hadn't spoken to any of his vast array of contacts in the game, hadn't tapped into the BBC's huge research machinery, hadn't even bothered, seemingly, to peruse the internet for some background on Algeria and Slovenia or even flick through a newspaper or a magazine. Shearer was content to sit in front of the cameras and tell the viewers that, really, he didn't know much. Hardly a revelation for most of us but embarrassing all the same.

I've watched BBC/ITV coverage abroad in bars packed with fans of the two teams involved, and cringed with embarrassment at not just the inability of the pundits to discuss the teams involved in the the game, but the attitude that frankly it's not important for "experts" to actually know anything. They are there to offer opinions, not knowledge.

Why do the BBC deem that acceptable? Why is Shearer not taken aside and told, 'Listen, if you can't be bothered doing some research on this game then get lost'. It's a different, and entirely more professional story, on radio. They seem to do their homework on players

Clarence Seedorf was in the BBC studio for the Italy versus Paraguay match and he was making a point about the positive impact an Italian substitute had made on the game. He was referring to Antonio Di Natale, winner of more than 30 caps for the Azzurri and the leading goalscorer in Serie A in the season just gone, but Seedorf couldn't remember his name. Hadn't a clue. Neither did the blokes alongside him, Hansen among them. "He was the No 10," said a smiling Seedorf, who then reached for a team-sheet on the desk for help before realising that it was the Dutch team-sheet. "That's no use," he laughed.

If you think that your Licence fee has been well spent there then thats your opinion and you are entitled to that

Most of the football press are exactly the same. Being a football expert means having an opinion on a subject, not knowing about it.

I think one of my favourites was from 1995 when Emlyn Hughes gave his expert opinion on the play-off final between Reading and Bolton. Now, to his credit, he did predict a Bolton win, but his reason wasn't anyhting to do with the players involved or tactics. Bolton would win, we were told, because Bolton were a great old club with tradition and history.


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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by FiNeRaIn » 30 Jun 2010 20:08

Big mike sounds like a bit of a tarrier, but to be fair he's making a few points I agree with and its easy to see why a lot of people get annoyed. British Broadcasting is not ENGLISH broadcasting, it should also be catering to the " sweaties, taffs and micks" as you put it. If we base a government on not offending a minority of muslims or ignoring our society rules and allowing them to wear burkas and build mosque's with our money...why can't we cater to people who have spent generations in britain with a bit more neutrality and acceptance that they want fair coverage of the world cup?

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 30 Jun 2010 21:13

FiNeRaIn Big mike sounds like a bit of a tarrier, but to be fair he's making a few points I agree with and its easy to see why a lot of people get annoyed. British Broadcasting is not ENGLISH broadcasting, it should also be catering to the " sweaties, taffs and micks" as you put it. If we base a government on not offending a minority of muslims or ignoring our society rules and allowing them to wear burkas and build mosque's with our money...why can't we cater to people who have spent generations in britain with a bit more neutrality and acceptance that they want fair coverage of the world cup?


How do you propose we cater for the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish at this world cup? Bring on Jim Bowen and have him say "Lads, look, he's what you could have won"?

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Arch » 30 Jun 2010 22:57

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FiNeRaIn Big mike sounds like a bit of a tarrier, but to be fair he's making a few points I agree with and its easy to see why a lot of people get annoyed. British Broadcasting is not ENGLISH broadcasting, it should also be catering to the " sweaties, taffs and micks" as you put it. If we base a government on not offending a minority of muslims or ignoring our society rules and allowing them to wear burkas and build mosque's with our money...why can't we cater to people who have spent generations in britain with a bit more neutrality and acceptance that they want fair coverage of the world cup?


How do you propose we cater for the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish at this world cup? Bring on Jim Bowen and have him say "Lads, look, he's what you could have won"?

You couldn't have missed the point more than this.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by FiNeRaIn » 01 Jul 2010 06:00

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Really despair sometimes.

I'm not talking about bringing in comments about their teams or what they could have won. I'm talking about showing more coverage towards the rest of the teams other than England.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by bigmike » 01 Jul 2010 08:13

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FiNeRaIn Big mike sounds like a bit of a tarrier, but to be fair he's making a few points I agree with and its easy to see why a lot of people get annoyed. British Broadcasting is not ENGLISH broadcasting, it should also be catering to the " sweaties, taffs and micks" as you put it. If we base a government on not offending a minority of muslims or ignoring our society rules and allowing them to wear burkas and build mosque's with our money...why can't we cater to people who have spent generations in britain with a bit more neutrality and acceptance that they want fair coverage of the world cup?


How do you propose we cater for the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish at this world cup? Bring on Jim Bowen and have him say "Lads, look, he's what you could have won"?


"How do you propose we cater for the Scots......" Do you work for the bbc?

It not a case of catering for the Scots, Welsh or the Irish. I was tuning in to watch a game between 2 countrys for that game I didnt care what Joe Cole had for breakfast!

I guess I was being stupid expecting to see coverage relating to the match that was on.

Maybe I should have expected that the BBC would have no idea about anyone but england..

I expect that next time Reading are on the TV they will show highlights and talk about Chelsea and Man U at half time and full time.

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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by FiNeRaIn » 01 Jul 2010 08:28

bigmike "How do you propose we cater for the Scots......" Do you work for the bbc?

It not a case of catering for the Scots, Welsh or the Irish. I was tuning in to watch a game between 2 countrys for that game I didnt care what Joe Cole had for breakfast!

I guess I was being stupid expecting to see coverage relating to the match that was on.

Maybe I should have expected that the BBC would have no idea about anyone but england..

I expect that next time Reading are on the TV they will show highlights and talk about Chelsea and Man U at half time and full time.


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Re: EngLOLand - The Backlash!

by Magnus » 01 Jul 2010 09:29

Zammo The real backlash starts in 14 days.......allegedly.

"Courts have held a further 2 week gagging order on steve gerrards private life, turns out he got his wifes sister pregnant (not a 16 year old )

Will hit the newspaper in 14 days, the judge held the gagging order to protect FA while they decide on capello, and the future of English footy..

John terry and the england boys all know about it and JT had a argument with capello because gerrard got to keep the captains armband. the tension in the camp was down to JT and half the team saying gerrard was a disgrace and the other half of the squad backing gerrard..The press conference was related to the tension and JT wanted Gerrard exposed - they hate each other..

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100423002725AAneFJ4
nothing to do with transfers etc, this one's a bit more private. just wondering if people in liverpool are hearing the same as me?

the rumour is gerrard has got a teenager pregnant and his wife alex has been messing around with kris commons. apparently gerrards legal team are in court trying to block the story, also something else about his house getting burgled by another bloke alex was shaggging while he was away. this is all just rumour in the legal world today so if its wrong, sue me.


I have a friend who's at uni in manchester. He usually gets these things right. He reckons a few years ago a gangster called 'pancake' no joke slept with his wife and could be the father to one of the kids. Then Gerrard put in a transfer request to go to Chelsea but Pancake threatened to do something or other as he didn't want Alex to move to London. So Gerrard withdrew the request. Now Gerrard slept with a 16 yr old and got her pregnant in an apparent revenge thing as Alex was seeing Kris Commons behind his back while he went away on games.
And yes she is keeping it and his lawyers have a job on their hands because the story is truely getting out bigtime.

The pancake thing is no joke but he did used to flip her over before effin her lol.

LOL @ a gangster who calls himself pancake

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