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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Friday's Legacy » 07 Mar 2012 19:33

buzzby http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/exclusive-pompey-should-be-able-to-finish-rest-of-season-1-3598825

Hope the link works. The football league have released money to allow Portsmouth to finish the season.


predictable. it's near impossible to be a 'big' ish club and go bust now. the premier league wont let it happen, and seemingly the football league will also do their utmost to protect you, and themselves from the embarrassment.

i think it's disgusting what's happened at that club in the last 2 and a bit years. if you can't be allowed to fold after two administrations and one broken cva in two years then you are simply sending out a message to everyone else that you too are free to abuse the system as much as you like. worst luck you'll take a points deduction and be relegated.

pompey will get away with this yet again but hopefully go down. though you just know they will maintain a very high wage structure for league one and be back in the championship within 24 months at the worst.

what an absolute farce the football authorities are!
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Re: Portsmouth fc

by exileinleeds » 07 Mar 2012 19:34

What a surprise.


Am I the only one who finds it a bit amusing that the FA cup game Spurs v Stevenage is sponsored by loan shark company Wonga.com

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Maquisard » 07 Mar 2012 19:35

Well, at least our 3 points will count!

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 Mar 2012 19:36

Maquisard Well, at least our 3 points will count!
True

Did the FL really go to this bother for Chester, Halifax etc?,

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Mr Optimist » 07 Mar 2012 19:37

Now they'll be looking to sign Bothroyd on loan until the end of the season now they've got some cash burning a hole in their pockets.


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by floyd__streete » 07 Mar 2012 20:17

AthleticoSpizz Did the FL really go to this bother for Chester, Halifax etc?,


Probably not, given that Chester and Halifax were in the Conference at the time they went bust.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 Mar 2012 20:20

fair point....but what about the etc

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by floyd__streete » 07 Mar 2012 20:23

AthleticoSpizz fair point....but what about the etc


To answer your question in a less smart-@rsed way, the only two clubs to fold mid-seaon since the war are Accrington in 1962 and Aldershot 30 years later. I doubt there was the cash in terms of prize-money available for the football league bail out the Shots 20 years ago, let alone Stanley 50 years ago.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Hoop Blah » 07 Mar 2012 20:24

FiNeRaIn So basically, other people are paying for them yet again?

How do we get the FA removed and changed to a democracy, there are other motives here which go beyond football and law now.


It's not the FA, it's the Football League, so what's it got to do with them?

You've mentioned this democratic FA before, I'd love to know what you think you need to change for this to happen and what it will improve.

How many leading organisations in the western world are run on these democratic lines you want to bring in at the FA?


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Hoop Blah » 07 Mar 2012 20:30

The way it reads, this £800k that Pompey will be 'given' is actually just money that they'd be entitled to if they were a going concern like all the other clubs. It doesn't sound like the Football League are just stumping up some extra cash to support them for the sake of it.

I'd guess they'd put these payments on hold in case they went bust and the FLs money was just pissed down the proverbial drain.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 Mar 2012 20:31

floyd__streete
AthleticoSpizz fair point....but what about the etc


To answer your question in a less smart-@rsed way, the only two clubs to fold mid-seaon since the war are Accrington in 1962 and Aldershot 30 years later. I doubt there was the cash in terms of prize-money available for the football league bail out the Shots 20 years ago, let alone Stanley 50 years ago.
I was going to mention Aldersh*t ..but couldn't quite bring myself to do it.

regardless, an unsustainable precedent

Expecting Port Vale and others to get the same leg-up

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Wimb » 08 Mar 2012 05:27

AthleticoSpizz
floyd__streete
AthleticoSpizz fair point....but what about the etc


To answer your question in a less smart-@rsed way, the only two clubs to fold mid-seaon since the war are Accrington in 1962 and Aldershot 30 years later. I doubt there was the cash in terms of prize-money available for the football league bail out the Shots 20 years ago, let alone Stanley 50 years ago.
I was going to mention Aldersh*t ..but couldn't quite bring myself to do it.

regardless, an unsustainable precedent

Expecting Port Vale and others to get the same leg-up


As a League Two club I'd imagine they are owed far less so whether any forwarding of payments would make a significant difference I'm unsure...

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Silver Fox » 08 Mar 2012 08:14

How far is 800 grand actually going to go? Especially as the people receiving it are idiots who'll probably spend it on Faberge eggs or something


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Re: Portsmouth fc

by 6ft Kerplunk » 08 Mar 2012 08:30

Um, shouldn't this £800K be going straight to HMRC to pay off some of the outstanding tax bill? Or does going into administration mean they don't have to bother actually trying to pay old debts at the moment?

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Big Foot » 08 Mar 2012 08:39

6ft Kerplunk Um, shouldn't this £800K be going straight to HMRC to pay off some of the outstanding tax bill? Or does going into administration mean they don't have to bother actually trying to pay old debts at the moment?

Football creditors rule would mean that HMRC are among the last people to see any money, I'd imagine

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Terminal Boardom » 08 Mar 2012 08:57

Whereas there is a massive part of me that wants PFC to disappear into oblivion, there is a small part that hopes that they are able to fulfill their fixtures this season. Should Reading gain promotion by default would not be the best way. There would be way too many people pointing the finger saying that Reading did not deserve to go up based on West Ham's 6 point deduction. I wonder what the reaction would be if Reading's and West Ham's positions were reversed?

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by exileinleeds » 08 Mar 2012 09:16

Terminal Boardom Whereas there is a massive part of me that wants PFC to disappear into oblivion, there is a small part that hopes that they are able to fulfill their fixtures this season. Should Reading gain promotion by default would not be the best way. There would be way too many people pointing the finger saying that Reading did not deserve to go up based on West Ham's 6 point deduction. I wonder what the reaction would be if Reading's and West Ham's positions were reversed?


I'd feel like a Sheffield United fan.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Cobi » 08 Mar 2012 09:44

Terminal Boardom Whereas there is a massive part of me that wants PFC to disappear into oblivion, there is a small part that hopes that they are able to fulfill their fixtures this season. Should Reading gain promotion by default would not be the best way. There would be way too many people pointing the finger saying that Reading did not deserve to go up based on West Ham's 6 point deduction. I wonder what the reaction would be if Reading's and West Ham's positions were reversed?


I'd feel like I did when we finished 2nd in 94/95 and missed out on automatic promotion...

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Terminal Boardom » 08 Mar 2012 10:04

Cobi
Terminal Boardom Whereas there is a massive part of me that wants PFC to disappear into oblivion, there is a small part that hopes that they are able to fulfill their fixtures this season. Should Reading gain promotion by default would not be the best way. There would be way too many people pointing the finger saying that Reading did not deserve to go up based on West Ham's 6 point deduction. I wonder what the reaction would be if Reading's and West Ham's positions were reversed?


I'd feel like I did when we finished 2nd in 94/95 and missed out on automatic promotion...


Can't buy that one. We knew from the start of the season that there would only be one automatic promotion place. Plus, the records show that Bolton lost their last league game safe in the knowledge that they had already secured a play off place and subsequently rested their key players. Had there been 2 automatic places up for grabs, I believe Bolton would have won their final game.

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Re: Portsmouth fc

by Silver Fox » 08 Mar 2012 10:32

Why do people keep saying that Portsmouth's results being expunged would be a specific disadvantage to West Ham (and presumably others) It would simply reduce the league to 44 games and if West Ham get fewer points in those games than we do then that's their look out.

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