The generic transfer thread

[Brum Royal]

Robbie Savage made the same point about calendar year stats on 606 on Saturday evening regarding something to do with Liverpool iirc. Not often I agree with him, but in this case, he's spot on. Calendar year stats are largely irrelevant when everything else is measured on a season by season basis.

[Winston Smith]

Ched Evans to sign 2 1/2 year deal with Oldham apparently

[Pepe the Horseman]

This will not end well.

[Vision]

Overeation a bit chaps (to the Bony question). It was a way of offering an answer to someone who claimed not to know much about him.

It's just demonstrating that over a year he's scored more goals than anyone else in the league , which is no mean feat in itself.

Playing Devil's Advocate it could also be something of an indicator that as a team's personnel changes more during the summer it shows an abilty to still produce the goods.

Either way, like all stats you can make of it what you will.

[Winston Smith]

Wasn't intended as a dig at you Vision, just seemed an odd stat to give and to me really just indicated his goalscoring numbers over a season cant be all that amazing if the media are choosing to go with the one you put up here.

A bit like someone finishing in a reasonable time for a marathon then getting talked up beyond the winners for their incredible 8-16 mile section.

[No Fixed Abode]

It's a bit like when Liverpool fans were saying "If the season started near the end of season (2012/2013) they would have won the league last season....

[Vision]

Don't think it's the same though as it's comparing his record alongside everyone elses over an equal time period.

FWIW 16 League goals last season (25 in all comps) and 9 so far this would suggest that aside from the very best (who play for the best sides) his record is pretty impressive in itself.

No-one's suggesting he's as good as Costa or Aguero but he's got a very good record in his own right.

[No Fixed Abode]

Victor Valdes signs 18 month deal with United to be 2nd choice.

LOLiverpooLOL

[AthleticoSpizz]

With over two months spent training with MU, it hardly entertains.

[sandman]

Kes is easily amused bless him.

[From Despair To Where?]

It's just demonstrating that over a year he's scored more goals than anyone else in the league , which is no mean feat in itself.

Playing Devil's Advocate it could also be something of an indicator that as a team's personnel changes more during the summer it shows an abilty to still produce the goods.

Either way, like all stats you can make of it what you will.

I think also that a lot of players, especially at smaller clubs can suffer from a kind of second season syndrome as teams suss them out or get unsettled by interest from bigger clubs. In Bony's case, he's carried on where he left off last season.

[Winston Smith]

loan deal with €15m option to buy

really wanted him to come here. sensational player, and a cheap price compared to many transfers these days

[Sanguine]

That's a terrific signing for Inter, really surprised no bigger clubs were in for him.

Re Bony - and the Shaqiri transfer is somewhat of an antidote to this - it's depressing seeing every player who makes a mark ending up at one of the elite clubs. I know, that's the modern game, and Bony wants to play in the Champions League. But he's also likely to get only 1/2 to 2/3 of the game time at City as he would have at Liverpool or Spurs, who were also interested.

Likewise Odegaard, the Norwegian super-kid, apparently courted by most of Europe's top teams, of course he's on his way to Real Madrid, where he likely won't get a game for 3 or 4 years.

Nature of the game, but it would be good to see talent end up at 'second tier' clubs a bit more.

[Hoop Blah]

Reports this morning suggest that Liverpool will be offloading Balatelli and possibly Lambert as well. They've also, apparently, agreed a £3m fee with Lille to bring Origi, their own player, back from his season long loan early.

Also read that a couple of months ago Swansea paid Bony £1m to remove a £19m buy out clause in his contract so they could get more from him in January.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Jeez, how much are they expecting to get for him?

[Hoop Blah]

I think the article I read it in suggested £28m.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Blimey.

[No Fixed Abode]

Looks like Benik Afobe is joining Wolves on a permanent deal.

[Mr Angry]

That's a terrific signing for Inter, really surprised no bigger clubs were in for him.

Re Bony - and the Shaqiri transfer is somewhat of an antidote to this - it's depressing seeing every player who makes a mark ending up at one of the elite clubs. I know, that's the modern game, and Bony wants to play in the Champions League. But he's also likely to get only 1/2 to 2/3 of the game time at City as he would have at Liverpool or Spurs, who were also interested.

Likewise Odegaard, the Norwegian super-kid, apparently courted by most of Europe's top teams, of course he's on his way to Real Madrid, where he likely won't get a game for 3 or 4 years.

Nature of the game, but it would be good to see talent end up at 'second tier' clubs a bit more.

But they will; they will get loaned out by their parent club to a "second tier" club.

I read this week that (and no, its NOT having a dig at them!) Chelsea have 40 players out on loan; that really cannot be healthy for the game.

[Winston Smith]

That's a terrific signing for Inter, really surprised no bigger clubs were in for him.

Re Bony - and the Shaqiri transfer is somewhat of an antidote to this - it's depressing seeing every player who makes a mark ending up at one of the elite clubs. I know, that's the modern game, and Bony wants to play in the Champions League. But he's also likely to get only 1/2 to 2/3 of the game time at City as he would have at Liverpool or Spurs, who were also interested.

Likewise Odegaard, the Norwegian super-kid, apparently courted by most of Europe's top teams, of course he's on his way to Real Madrid, where he likely won't get a game for 3 or 4 years.

Nature of the game, but it would be good to see talent end up at 'second tier' clubs a bit more.

But they will; they will get loaned out by their parent club to a "second tier" club.

I read this week that (and no, its NOT having a dig at them!) Chelsea have 40 players out on loan; that really cannot be healthy for the game.

Parma loaned out 109 players last season