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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by RoyalBlue » 05 Jun 2012 16:46

I can't believe that some on here still keep claiming that Rodgers is a crap manager. He will keep proving them wrong but I guess they will keep ignoring what is staring them in the face.

True, he wasn't a success as a manager at RFC but I suspect he would claim the goal posts were moved somewhat after he was given the job and then the majority of supporters and the chairman/board lost their nerve, leading to his departure.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Ian Royal » 05 Jun 2012 16:55

RoyalBlue I can't believe that some on here still keep claiming that Rodgers is a crap manager. He will keep proving them wrong but I guess they will keep ignoring what is staring them in the face.

True, he wasn't a success as a manager at RFC but I suspect he would claim the goal posts were moved somewhat after he was given the job and then the majority of supporters and the chairman/board lost their nerve, leading to his departure.


The goal posts weren't moved. He was hired to get us in the Prem in three years. This did not include going via League One. He would certainly have got the time to do the job properly, if we hadn't been looking like relegation fodder as Christmas approached. And we did, because of his mis-management of the club's circumstances.

Good manager, questionable judgement.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Bumblebee » 05 Jun 2012 17:07

Single-minded arrogance =/= good manager in my book.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by cmonurz » 05 Jun 2012 17:20

Bumblebee Single-minded arrogance =/= good manager in my book.


Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho disagree with you.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by peterroyal76 » 05 Jun 2012 17:32

RoyalBlue I can't believe that some on here still keep claiming that Rodgers is a crap manager. He will keep proving them wrong but I guess they will keep ignoring what is staring them in the face.

True, he wasn't a success as a manager at RFC but I suspect he would claim the goal posts were moved somewhat after he was given the job and then the majority of supporters and the chairman/board lost their nerve, leading to his departure.


+1 IMO


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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Royalee » 05 Jun 2012 18:25

fruits Rodgers will be toast by the end of the season or before. Just hope he leaves Siggy alone, another wrong move a la Hoffenheim ,could finish him as a player.

Yeah, he ruined him at Swansea...

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by winchester_royal » 05 Jun 2012 18:31

fruits Rodgers will be toast by the end of the season or before. Just hope he leaves Siggy alone, another wrong move a la Hoffenheim ,could finish him as a player.


Idiot.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by winchester_royal » 05 Jun 2012 18:31

Turns8 It sounds like he's turned over the page to the chapter on 'how to win over your new fans' - going on about the history of the club and how they've won as much as great European teams like Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan etc...yawn...the way they played last season at times was pretty shambolic and that was with the Legend, King Kenny in charge...can't see how he will be able to turn things around before the fans lose patience...

But you gotta love Rodgers for his ability to talk up things...he's only gone to Liverpool to further his ever increasing bank balance...simple as that...it's all about Rodgers as per normal... :roll:


Massive idiot.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Bumblebee » 05 Jun 2012 18:55

cmonurz
Bumblebee Single-minded arrogance =/= good manager in my book.


Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho disagree with you.


Fergie is one of the most adaptable managers ever. Single-minded isn't in his vocab.

Mourhino has consistently rocked up and won stuff straight away. In BIG jobs. Comparing Rodgers with him is ridiculous.


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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by JS28ZoD » 05 Jun 2012 19:49

As was mentioned above Brendan's major flaw was that he tried to establish a new way of playing with players who were plainly weren't capable of playing that way, which was plain for all to see. He picked his tactics before looking at the strengths of the squad. Hopefully he learned his lesson with us and will be a success at Liverpool.

Brian on the other hand is the complete opposite. It will be interesting to see how Brian chooses to build a team given the resources at his disposal now as he has normally just developed the team based on its strengths alone so I'm not sure what his preferred tactical policy would be exactly, although I'm sure his answer would just be 'winning!'

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by cmonurz » 05 Jun 2012 20:01

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Bumblebee Single-minded arrogance =/= good manager in my book.


Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho disagree with you.


Fergie is one of the most adaptable managers ever. Single-minded isn't in his vocab.

Mourhino has consistently rocked up and won stuff straight away. In BIG jobs. Comparing Rodgers with him is ridiculous.


Both are single-minded - they choose their path and stick to it - and hugely arrogant. They are also good. You therefore invited comparison to Rodgers. Rafa Benitez another.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by strap » 05 Jun 2012 20:27

Ask James Harper about his aborted £3M move to Wolves.

Ask Liam Rosenior about his leaving RFC.

Ask Tim Dellor about any interview with him - unable to handle pressure of any discription, or accept any criticsm.

Claims to have worked for or been courted by every major English football club except Spurs. He's 39. Ladies and Gentleman, may I present to you Mr Billy Bullshit.

His track record:

Saved Watford from relegation using Boothroyd's team.
Got Martinez's and Sousa's team promoted.
Spent more money in 6 months at our club than any other manager, and took us from 4th to 21st before being kicked out.

The Kop are going to eat him alive - and I for one cannot wait.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by winchester_royal » 05 Jun 2012 20:38

Oooh, player in not liking manager who doesn't play him shock.

Ask Sig what he thinks of Rodgers and you'll get a completely different answer.


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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by sandman » 05 Jun 2012 20:48

winchester_royal
fruits Rodgers will be toast by the end of the season or before. Just hope he leaves Siggy alone, another wrong move a la Hoffenheim ,could finish him as a player.


Idiot.

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Turns8 It sounds like he's turned over the page to the chapter on 'how to win over your new fans' - going on about the history of the club and how they've won as much as great European teams like Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan etc...yawn...the way they played last season at times was pretty shambolic and that was with the Legend, King Kenny in charge...can't see how he will be able to turn things around before the fans lose patience...

But you gotta love Rodgers for his ability to talk up things...he's only gone to Liverpool to further his ever increasing bank balance...simple as that...it's all about Rodgers as per normal... :roll:


Massive idiot.


Yep. They disagree with your opinion so they must be idiots. :roll:

To have an emotional opinion against Rodgers is very easy as he has a very aggravating personality. People like Royalee and yourself like his sort of personality because it fits your own arrogant personalities (at least in your internet personas) of believing you're always in the right and everyone else is stupid.

I think with Lollerpool that there is a sense that they need to get real and won't be challenging for the top 4 for a while so he will get time rather than being "toast". However, if he performs really poorly as he did with Reading and they are near the bottom of the table then that is when he might be in trouble.Finishing outside of the top four this season won't be seen as as big a failure with Rodgers as it was with Dalglish.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by winchester_royal » 05 Jun 2012 20:54

No, I'm happy to listen to anyone who thinks he isn't a good manager as long as they go about it in the right way. Saying ridiculous stuff like he's only motivated by money, when going to the second most successful club in English football is beyond idiotic. As is trying to claim he'll 'ruin' Sig when he gave him his big break at Reading and in the Premiership, as well as advocating a style/system that suits him.

I don't particularly like the way Rodgers comes across in the media, but I do think he's an excellent manager who will do well for Liverpool. Too many people are happy to judge him on his 5 months here (which he's admitted many times that he made mistakes in) rather than his career as a whole.

That's understandable, but no less idiotic.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by SCIAG » 05 Jun 2012 21:54

strap His track record:

Saved Watford from relegation using Boothroyd's team.
Got Martinez's and Sousa's team promoted.
Spent more money in 6 months at our club than any other manager, and took us from 4th to 21st before being kicked out.

Sorry, but that's a load of cobblers.

He did better at Watford than Boothroyd was doing.

It helped him that his defensive, short passing game was already being played under Sousa, but he improved them. I don't think he worked miracles there by any means, but he certainly added to Sousa's side, and did it without Bodde or Gomez who were the two best players under Martinez by a long way.

He didn't spend more than Coppell. You would be right to say he spent more in one transfer window whilst in the Championship, and spent it on players like Mills and Cummings who he didn't play and Rasiak who was awful. He mess up badly here though.

To be honest I think his achievements are being overstated- Lambert and Martinez have both done much more and don't have massive blots on their record- but you are letting your opinion of him as a man cloud your judgement.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by handbags_harris » 05 Jun 2012 22:16

You surely cannot fail to see that there are serious questions yet to be answered within his managerial career? Regardless of what anybody says those questions will remain unanswered until such time as he is at a club that he rebuilds the playing staff at and successfully manages a complete alteration of playing style. He has, until now, not managed it at any club because he has either:-

1 - moved clubs before the style could be considered to be successfully transformed,
2 - been sacked because the style didn't produce the desired results,
3 - has been granted a job where he merely had to tinker with players and style.

Good managers are versatile and adaptable. Rodgers has shown so far that he is neither.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Caskeys Lovechild » 06 Jun 2012 00:15

He's also the first to jump, rather than see the job through.

Watford = Jumped to Reading because it was his "home club"
Swansea = Jumped to Liverpool, because it's a "big job".

The guy has achieved absolutely nothing. Promotion to the Premier League was largely due to the team that Martinez had created. He didn't really achieve a whole lot at Watford, and when he had a clean slate to go at things with for us, he fell to pieces.

He is neither adaptable, or intelligent enough to realise his mistakes (which have been numerous). I don't care if he now takes Liverpool to the top of the Premier League and wins it for them, I'm just glad he's nowhere near our football club any more.

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Re: Bumper Book of Tactics

by Wax Jacket » 06 Jun 2012 10:51

Caskeys Lovechild He is neither adaptable, or intelligent enough to realise his mistakes (which have been numerous). I don't care if he now takes Liverpool to the top of the Premier League and wins it for them, I'm just glad he's nowhere near our football club any more.


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