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Re: John Terry

by TFF » 27 Sep 2012 23:55

By the same token, the court didn't find him 'innocent' either

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Re: John Terry

by TheMaraudingDog » 28 Sep 2012 08:47

3 veesinarow Stunned to see the favouritism exhibited by the FA towards Terry in only giving the white supremacist a four game ban whilst the greasy dago wop got eight games because he's Johnny Foreigner.

Inconsistency in football - who'd have thought it?



Ah bless. Liverpool fan in thinking they've been victimised shocker.

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 28 Sep 2012 10:02

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3 veesinarow Stunned to see the favouritism exhibited by the FA towards Terry in only giving the white supremacist a four game ban whilst the greasy dago wop got eight games because he's Johnny Foreigner.

Inconsistency in football - who'd have thought it?



Ah bless. Liverpool fan in thinking they've been victimised shocker.



Exactly.

Whilst people say it's a 'different' case and the FA have 'different' laws - essentially it's still exactly the same. To find someone not guilty in the Court of Law and then a less powerful body in the FA hands out a 4 game ban, plus a large fine due to 'probability' stinks of hypocrisy to me. Still, at least it's given black players a chance to moan on twitter and tell the World how hard done by they are. I also saw John Fashanu's daughter on Daybreak this morning coming out of the woodwork again - saying how black players are harshly treated in football. No they're not (these days) - racism really isn't an issue with football in this Country and it's getting boring the way these ethnic minorities are jumping on the bandwagon and playing the race card. If we're not careful, these over sensitive types are going to be reporting players for anything and everything.

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Re: John Terry

by Uke » 28 Sep 2012 10:05

Fans seek Terry Chant Clarification

We’re in the strange position that Terry both is and isn’t a racist, posing not only a legal quandary but also the possibility that he is existing in two quantum states of bigotry simultaneously.


He's here, he's there he's every fùcking where?

Apologies to Martin Hicks

I am advising fans to stick to chants about where Terry puts his penis, his mother’s shoplifting and his father’s cocaine dealing.

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Re: John Terry

by TFF » 28 Sep 2012 10:20

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3 veesinarow Stunned to see the favouritism exhibited by the FA towards Terry in only giving the white supremacist a four game ban whilst the greasy dago wop got eight games because he's Johnny Foreigner.

Inconsistency in football - who'd have thought it?



Ah bless. Liverpool fan in thinking they've been victimised shocker.



Exactly.

Whilst people say it's a 'different' case and the FA have 'different' laws - essentially it's still exactly the same. To find someone not guilty in the Court of Law and then a less powerful body in the FA hands out a 4 game ban, plus a large fine due to 'probability' stinks of hypocrisy to me. Still, at least it's given black players a chance to moan on twitter and tell the World how hard done by they are. I also saw John Fashanu's daughter on Daybreak this morning coming out of the woodwork again - saying how black players are harshly treated in football. No they're not (these days) - racism really isn't an issue with football in this Country and it's getting boring the way these ethnic minorities are jumping on the bandwagon and playing the race card. If we're not careful, these over sensitive types are going to be reporting players for anything and everything.


The really sad thing is that you're probably not on the wind up.


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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 28 Sep 2012 10:29

We've seen John Barnes say he's not treated fairly because he's a black coach. The fact is - he was shit as manager. It's not because of his skin colour.

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 28 Sep 2012 10:35

Deary me

Jason Roberts ‏@JasonRoberts30
No of games..amount of fine..not really an issue for me..vindication for Anton as the innocent party within all of this and a renewed.

Jason Roberts ‏@JasonRoberts30
eye on the REAL issues...lack of Black Managers, Coaches, Administrators and within the media...this is the REAL fight..equality for ALL..

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and with 30% Black Players within the game..that is Todays fight...

Jason Roberts ‏@JasonRoberts30
Oh....the Lack of Badges argument...well many have got jobs without badges...point 1 and at last count over 20% BEM where doing their Badges

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Oh...and the HORROR stories that exist are too many to mention..the numbers just DON'T STACK UP..regardless of anybody's excuses.

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Re: John Terry

by TBM » 28 Sep 2012 10:37

"What an absolute farce," tweeted Barton

Barton, 30, said that by the "FA's perverse reckoning" he would have "got less of a ban for racially abusing the Man City players than tickling them like I did". He added: "In what circumstances can that be right?"


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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 28 Sep 2012 10:38

Barnes is a bad example as be was a shit manager, but given that there are so few black managers in general, it's hard to argue that there's not some institutional racism at play. This is only going to change over time though and I suspect it will improve once we get a new generation of chairmen and chief execs at clubs.

This Terry situation is a bit odd as I do think he is a complete pcunt. However, if the FA couldn't prove that he didn't say "I didn't call you a black pcunt" then I'm not sure how they could find him guilty of racism.


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Re: John Terry

by Wax Jacket » 28 Sep 2012 10:39

southbank1871 However, if the FA couldn't prove that he didn't say "I didn't call you a black pcunt" then I'm not sure how they could find him guilty of racism.


my thoughts exactly. I'm not sure how that's racist at all.

still they may jsut have wanted to nail him

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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 28 Sep 2012 10:42

I guess that's it, but i can understand Terry feeling very aggrieved. Could he take this to any sort of European Court on appeal as its hard to see how it wouldn't be overturned? Also wasn't Anton Ferdinand also going to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute for what he said?

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Re: John Terry

by ZacNaloen » 28 Sep 2012 10:46

southbank1871 Barnes is a bad example as be was a shit manager, but given that there are so few black managers in general, it's hard to argue that there's not some institutional racism at play. This is only going to change over time though and I suspect it will improve once we get a new generation of chairmen and chief execs at clubs.

This Terry situation is a bit odd as I do think he is a complete pcunt. However, if the FA couldn't prove that he didn't say "I didn't call you a black pcunt" then I'm not sure how they could find him guilty of racism.



I think we'll hit a critical mass of black ex-players hitting right age soon and see many more, consider the average age of a manager and when football stopped being so racist that black players didn't want to stay in the game after retiring from playing...

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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 28 Sep 2012 10:50

True. It's fine for people like Roberts to complain but it will be interesting to see if he pursues a coaching career when he retires of if he sticks to media work.


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Re: John Terry

by 3 veesinarow » 28 Sep 2012 10:51

TheMaraudingDog
3 veesinarow Stunned to see the favouritism exhibited by the FA towards Terry in only giving the white supremacist a four game ban whilst the greasy dago wop got eight games because he's Johnny Foreigner.

Inconsistency in football - who'd have thought it?



Ah bless. Liverpool fan in thinking they've been victimised shocker.


:| Reading fan in general observation about football shocker.

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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 28 Sep 2012 10:56

Blacks are better at football though, so you'd expect them to be over represented as players.

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Re: John Terry

by HoneyRoastHoax » 28 Sep 2012 10:56

Roberts needs to learn when to shut the hell up.

A lot of money rides on clubs doing well and a succesful manager is key to that. I think the owners of clubs who are mostly foreign would give the job to a purple man/woman if he/she got the job done

Drogba, Anelka, Malouda and Mikel refused to sign statement backing Terry for trial, says it all , and Mikel is CFC Kick it out Ambassador

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Re: John Terry

by southbank1871 » 28 Sep 2012 10:58

Might be because they don't want to labelled as Magnums or whatever.

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Re: John Terry

by No Fixed Abode » 28 Sep 2012 10:58

southbank1871 Barnes is a bad example as be was a shit manager, but given that there are so few black managers in general, it's hard to argue that there's not some institutional racism at play. This is only going to change over time though and I suspect it will improve once we get a new generation of chairmen and chief execs at clubs.



The way the likes of Jason Roberts and Clarke Carlisle harp on about it, is merely to raise there own profiles and extend their careers beyond their playing days.

We used to have very few black players in this Country, therefore in decades gone obviously chairman would give management/coaching jobs to people of white origin as there is a vast network of white football coaches out there with far more experience in the game than many black players. i don't think it's a case of 'they're black, we won't give them the job'. It's a case of 'we're going to give the job to the best candidate'. If John Barnes or Paul Ince were any good, they would still be managers now. People on the boards of football clubs and chairman don't care about skin colour - they care about results.

There are far more black players in the game these day and in time, we will see more black managers/coaches. It's just natural progression. I know Jason Roberts and Clarke Carlisle are only trying to raise awareness - but give it time it will happen. To accuse club hierarchy's of being racist is without foundation or evidence.

It's good to see Chris Powell doing well at Charlton. Also Eddie Newton (first team coach) and Michael Emenalo as Technical Director at Chelsea.

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Re: John Terry

by Gordons Cumming » 28 Sep 2012 10:58

Tell me why oh why the BBC are giving Barton so much attention?

A whole article on his opinion FFS!! Why should anyone care what he has to say?

It's just feeding his overblown ego!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19749030

He's getting 12 games because he physically attacked people and his appalling past record.

Pot, kettle, kettle black..................

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Re: John Terry

by TheMaraudingDog » 28 Sep 2012 11:00

southbank1871 Blacks are better at football though, so you'd expect them to be over represented as players.



And whites are more intelligent which is why you'd expect an over representation in management.

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