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by Sanguine » 07 Jun 2018 13:12

So it's started.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/ ... aming-deal

From 2019-20, two rounds of Premier League fixtures will be shown exclusively online by Amazon Prime.
I think we are probably 4-5 years away from a complete breakup of the current subscription TV model, as by then there won't be much left.

I do hope we end up with an option to cherry-pick sports or games that we want to watch, at a subscription price. The NFL pass is great and let's fans watch any game, anywhere and would be a good first step. I think we'll end up with a couple of years of an unsatisfactory interim setup where you need about 5 or 6 subscriptions to watch all games.

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Re: TV rights

by Stranded » 07 Jun 2018 14:08

Wouldn't surprise me if it happens more in the UK come 2022 when the next deal ends. Is happening elsewhere, think the only thing that has stopped it too date in the UK is the currently prohibative cost of PL rights for new entrants,

The Perform Group will likely be the ones to watch when the next rounds come round as they look to push DAZN into the UK - especially if more multi-game packages come available.

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by Sanguine » 07 Jun 2018 14:14

DAZN runs BeIN Sports, doesn't it? Only came across this in Dubai last year - it had 18 channels. :shock:

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by RG30 » 07 Jun 2018 14:30

Perform do a lot of stuff for the betting industry too. Big players.

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by Stranded » 07 Jun 2018 14:42

Sanguine DAZN runs BeIN Sports, doesn't it? Only came across this in Dubai last year - it had 18 channels. :shock:


Not sure, they have a partnership in Canada where DAZN stream their channels.

The guy who owns Perform is absolutely minted and has made it clear he wants to get into the UK market but waiting for the right time regarding rights costs. Is growing incredibly quickly over here, they have just nicked nearly all the Champions League off Sky from next season. Will show 110 games live and every single EL game.


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by BR0B0T » 07 Jun 2018 15:22

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I do hope we end up with an option to cherry-pick sports or games that we want to watch, at a subscription price. The NFL pass is great and let's fans watch any game, anywhere and would be a good first step..


Wish they'd just sort this out

I only want to watch United/Reading and at a push Liverpool being beaten

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Re: TV rights

by tidus_mi2 » 07 Jun 2018 20:22

Eh, I already have Prime, gives me something I guess.

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Re: TV rights

by Winston Biscuit » 07 Jun 2018 22:10

Nail in the coffin for me getting sky sports next year. They already took away loads of sports from me a few months back when they changed how their channel subscriptions work, doubt very much I will get it back after the summer now.

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Re: TV rights

by Royalist » 07 Jun 2018 23:03

Prime get 20 'extra' games. Sounds a lot but its actually just boxing day games ( every one) and another full bank holiday day fixtures.

So only two matchdays.

Sky have 128 games BT 50 Amazon 20 but only on 2 match days.

Minor issue from the 2019 til 2022.

Its the next lot that will be a game changer....


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by Sanguine » 08 Jun 2018 08:44

Royalist Prime get 20 'extra' games. Sounds a lot but its actually just boxing day games ( every one) and another full bank holiday day fixtures.

So only two matchdays.

Sky have 128 games BT 50 Amazon 20 but only on 2 match days.

Minor issue from the 2019 til 2022.

Its the next lot that will be a game changer....


I agree that it is the next round where all the pieces will likely move, but there's a couple of nuances that make this deal stand out - first that it is the 2 specific match days, i.e. that Sky or BT will not show any of that round of games, rather than their pick of 2 or 3, and second that, as you say, every game from those two rounds will be available on live stream, rather than the 2 or 3 picked by broadcasters. It's a real change.

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Re: TV rights

by Stranded » 08 Jun 2018 08:47

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Royalist Prime get 20 'extra' games. Sounds a lot but its actually just boxing day games ( every one) and another full bank holiday day fixtures.

So only two matchdays.

Sky have 128 games BT 50 Amazon 20 but only on 2 match days.

Minor issue from the 2019 til 2022.

Its the next lot that will be a game changer....


I agree that it is the next round where all the pieces will likely move, but there's a couple of nuances that make this deal stand out - first that it is the 2 specific match days, i.e. that Sky or BT will not show any of that round of games, rather than their pick of 2 or 3, and second that, as you say, every game from those two rounds will be available on live stream, rather than the 2 or 3 picked by broadcasters. It's a real change.


The fact that it is Boxing Day as well, will piss a lot of people off. Would be part of the day to have a game on, or head to the pub for it. Given it will be on an over the top service, I very much doubt that the chance to watch a PL game in the pub on Boxing Day will exist between 2019-22.

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by Sanguine » 08 Jun 2018 09:43

I'm a bit naive about this stuff, but would the rules around, say, (not) plugging a laptop into a TV screen and showing it in a pub be similar to not showing illegal streams now?

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by Stranded » 08 Jun 2018 10:35

Sanguine I'm a bit naive about this stuff, but would the rules around, say, (not) plugging a laptop into a TV screen and showing it in a pub be similar to not showing illegal streams now?



Not sure. Is there a business version of Prime? If it is only for private individuals then I would imagine there is some rule against transmitting in public.


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by RG30 » 08 Jun 2018 11:53

Amazon onto a right winner. Everyone will take a 30 day free trial which coincides with the Boxing Day sales.

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Re: TV rights

by Stranded » 08 Jun 2018 13:32

See the new deal also includes a "winter break".

There won't be a break as such but one round of games will be played over 2 weekends, so that each club has a 2 week break but there will still be PL games each weekend.

FA Cup 5th round will move to midweek and have no replays.

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by Green » 08 Jun 2018 13:56

Stranded See the new deal also includes a "winter break".

There won't be a break as such but one round of games will be played over 2 weekends, so that each club has a 2 week break but there will still be PL games each weekend.

FA Cup 5th round will move to midweek and have no replays.

Not so good if you want to go on holiday with a friend from another team.

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Re: TV rights

by Winston Biscuit » 03 Dec 2019 08:26

Amazon Prime showing football over the next 2 nights for the first time

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by Old Man Andrews » 03 Dec 2019 08:36

Winston Biscuit Amazon Prime showing football over the next 2 nights for the first time

Will this be shown in pubs? How does it work? Is there an Amazon TV channel on Sky?

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Re: TV rights

by Stranded » 03 Dec 2019 08:36

Winston Biscuit Amazon Prime showing football over the next 2 nights for the first time


Next 3 nights - strangely staggered tonight and Thursday with one game at 19.30 and the other at 20.15 - guess to try and get you to watch at least some of both games. Same split tomorrow but just the Merseyside Derby starting later.

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Re: TV rights

by Stranded » 03 Dec 2019 09:07

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Winston Biscuit Amazon Prime showing football over the next 2 nights for the first time

Will this be shown in pubs? How does it work? Is there an Amazon TV channel on Sky?


Yes it will be in pubs as there is a deal in place with BT Sport to licence games to pubs.

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