Jamie Gittens to Arsenal - are we entitled to compensation?

[Brogue]

Looks like former Reading youth product Gittens is on his way to Arsenal from Bayern. Would we get any sort of sell on fee/ Compensation? He went to city from us before going to Bayern, so probably not? But People on Twitter are saying we might, as the sell on/compensation can span across multiple transfers ? Is that correct?

[Stranded]

Looks like former Reading youth product Gittens is on his way to Arsenal from Bayern. Would we get any sort of sell on fee/ Compensation? He went to city from us before going to Bayern, so probably not? But People on Twitter are saying we might, as the sell on/compensation can span across multiple transfers ? Is that correct?

Yes we would, how much will depend on the fee but we would be eligible for a small percentage as we trained him up as a kid.

The amount due will also depend on how long he was with us and at what age.

[Esteban]

He spent 5 years with us and left for City when he was 14. So we were certainly involved in his formative years and have played a big part in his development. He did spend a bit of time in the Chelsea set-up too, but was also at Reading prior to that.

[tidus_mi2]

According to this site: https://www.parsalaw.com/fifa-player-transfers/

Transfer fees are usually not disclosed but can be in the millions (reportedly they have been as high as €222 million), so solidarity payments will vary. But to recap, solidarity payments are determined by:

withholding 5% of the transfer fee; and
dividing that amount proportionally among all clubs the player trained at between the ages of 12 and 23.

So, I'm seeing a rumoured 50m, 5% is 2.5m so based on that rule, I believe it would be split equally between ourselves and City? I think the time period he was at both our clubs past his 12th birthday were both 2 years, so 1.25m each?

Something like that anyway.

[Brogue]

Nice, a figure not to be sniffed at this level.

[Carnabyswhiskers]

Looks like former Reading youth product Gittens is on his way to Arsenal from Bayern. Would we get any sort of sell on fee/ Compensation? He went to city from us before going to Bayern, so probably not? But People on Twitter are saying we might, as the sell on/compensation can span across multiple transfers ? Is that correct?

Pedant's corner: Gittens is at Dortmund. Not that this has any effect on the rest of the discussion.

[Stranded]

According to this site: https://www.parsalaw.com/fifa-player-transfers/

Transfer fees are usually not disclosed but can be in the millions (reportedly they have been as high as €222 million), so solidarity payments will vary. But to recap, solidarity payments are determined by:

withholding 5% of the transfer fee; and
dividing that amount proportionally among all clubs the player trained at between the ages of 12 and 23.

So, I'm seeing a rumoured 50m, 5% is 2.5m so based on that rule, I believe it would be split equally between ourselves and City? I think the time period he was at both our clubs past his 12th birthday were both 2 years, so 1.25m each?

Something like that anyway.

I think that money goes to all clubs who trained him so Dortmund would actually retain some of that money as he is 20.

So there would be 8 slices of the 2.5m to be givren out.

Dortmund would get half of it, City and us would share the other half.

I seem to recall that there is a sliding scale in payment as well, so Gittens being with us from 12-14 is paid less than City having him from 14-16.

[tidus_mi2]

According to this site: https://www.parsalaw.com/fifa-player-transfers/

Transfer fees are usually not disclosed but can be in the millions (reportedly they have been as high as €222 million), so solidarity payments will vary. But to recap, solidarity payments are determined by:

withholding 5% of the transfer fee; and
dividing that amount proportionally among all clubs the player trained at between the ages of 12 and 23.

So, I'm seeing a rumoured 50m, 5% is 2.5m so based on that rule, I believe it would be split equally between ourselves and City? I think the time period he was at both our clubs past his 12th birthday were both 2 years, so 1.25m each?

Something like that anyway.

I think that money goes to all clubs who trained him so Dortmund would actually retain some of that money as he is 20.

So there would be 8 slices of the 2.5m to be givren out.

Dortmund would get half of it, City and us would share the other half.

I seem to recall that there is a sliding scale in payment as well, so Gittens being with us from 12-14 is paid less than City having him from 14-16.

I was wondering if that was the case, so it would mean we get a hell of a lot less but it's still something.

[Greatwesternline]

We are entitled to compensation but its not based on transfer fee. It's a fixed fee for costs of training a player.

Something along the lines of €75,000 for each year in a cat 1 academy.

https://www.easportslaw.com/news/traini ... 20birthday.

Futhermore, according to that legal article, the compensation only applies if the player transfers across borders. Within a country it wouldn't apply.

So we'd be in the hands of the German FA rules on compensation between clubs.

[Brogue]

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If this transfer goes through we will receive part of a 5% solidarity payment for having Jamie Bynoe-Gittens at the club between the ages of 12-23.

Would receive some of the €2.5m for his time at #ReadingFC

[Sutekh]

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If this transfer goes through we will receive part of a 5% solidarity payment for having Jamie Bynoe-Gittens at the club between the ages of 12-23.

Would receive some of the €2.5m for his time at #ReadingFC

Things have changed. Under Dai the club would have just been totally silent had this transfer materialised.

[Royal Ginger]

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@RFCLatest
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If this transfer goes through we will receive part of a 5% solidarity payment for having Jamie Bynoe-Gittens at the club between the ages of 12-23.

Would receive some of the €2.5m for his time at #ReadingFC

Things have changed. Under Dai the club would have just been totally silent had this transfer materialised.

This isn't the club