Snowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
by Hound » 07 Jul 2022 11:20
Snowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Jul 2022 13:55
HoundSnowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
by Sutekh » 07 Jul 2022 14:03
YorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
I still think we did need a back up goalkeeper, as it seems as if it's been made clear that Southwood is surplus to requirements, it's just his decision to not move. Fair play to compete for places, hopefully he can show signs of improvement.
by Hound » 07 Jul 2022 14:21
Snowflake RoyalHoundSnowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Jul 2022 14:29
HoundSnowflake RoyalHound
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
Has he been treated badly?
I don’t think Ince rates him, and it’s the game that if that’s the case then he gets replaced
Not like he’s been made to train with the youths, publicly called out or anything
by Hound » 07 Jul 2022 14:38
Snowflake RoyalHoundSnowflake Royal I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
Has he been treated badly?
I don’t think Ince rates him, and it’s the game that if that’s the case then he gets replaced
Not like he’s been made to train with the youths, publicly called out or anything
He had his contract extended and made his first team break through, got scapegoated after some errors and then told to leave within about 6 months. And so far we've not signed a replacement clearly better.
Yeah, I don't think he's been treated well.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 07 Jul 2022 14:58
HoundSnowflake RoyalHound
Has he been treated badly?
I don’t think Ince rates him, and it’s the game that if that’s the case then he gets replaced
Not like he’s been made to train with the youths, publicly called out or anything
He had his contract extended and made his first team break through, got scapegoated after some errors and then told to leave within about 6 months. And so far we've not signed a replacement clearly better.
Yeah, I don't think he's been treated well.
Hmm, thin line between being scapegoated and just the belief we could get someone better in. He was looking very shakey post the Hull error - admittedly not all his fault
Apparently not told to leave either
It’s a tough profession. Think the general feel was he wasn’t up to champ level at the moment. Can’t just keep playing him
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Jul 2022 16:22
by Millsy » 13 Aug 2022 15:25
MillsyStrandedPepe the Horseman I know we need to give him a chance etc and fans are notoriously negative about players when they leave, but I haven't seen a single positive comment about him from Boro fans. Not even, solid shot stopper that's prone to an error. Just unanimously absolute shite.
Here you go
https://twitter.com/JoeJitsu2022/status ... wX55Mr3LGA
Also just read another that says - "Lumley is a perfectly serviceable mid-level championship keeper. However as any #Boro fan will tell you, he's got at least one rick a game in him hence the sale"
So hardly glowing but probably shows what he is - a mid-table Champ keeper who won't cut it for a team pushing for promotion but as the upper limit of our aspirations for this year is about 20th, he'll probably be fine.
Don't want to harp on with my opinion but that ["upper limit of our aspirations... 20th"] is exactly why it's a terrible idea, unless we're resigned to being relegated. Such a team needs a GOOD keeper. At the very least what Rafael was before he lost his head and became a liability. Or what Southwood was before he lost his head and became a liability. Ditto Hein, ditto Nyland.
My protestations thus far above have been assuming he was at least just an average keeper like Rafael was. If he's already known to be a bit of a liability then **** me this is nothing short of a ridiculous move and I therefore agree with whomever it is in pages above, who says that it's an odd move to move on our own boy Southwood to bring in this chap.
I refuse to believe we wouldn't be able to get someone better than someone with an error in him every game. No chance. I hope Ince et al know what they're doing - relegation season coming up with the dodgiest defence in the league already and another error-prone keeper.
God help us.
by skipper » 13 Aug 2022 15:46
by Royal_jimmy » 13 Aug 2022 20:15
Snowflake RoyalHoundSnowflake Royal Oh look. Bouzanis wasn’t required. Who'd have thunk it.
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
by skipper » 13 Aug 2022 21:43
by Franchise FC » 13 Aug 2022 22:07
MillsyMillsyStranded
Here you go
https://twitter.com/JoeJitsu2022/status ... wX55Mr3LGA
Also just read another that says - "Lumley is a perfectly serviceable mid-level championship keeper. However as any #Boro fan will tell you, he's got at least one rick a game in him hence the sale"
So hardly glowing but probably shows what he is - a mid-table Champ keeper who won't cut it for a team pushing for promotion but as the upper limit of our aspirations for this year is about 20th, he'll probably be fine.
Don't want to harp on with my opinion but that ["upper limit of our aspirations... 20th"] is exactly why it's a terrible idea, unless we're resigned to being relegated. Such a team needs a GOOD keeper. At the very least what Rafael was before he lost his head and became a liability. Or what Southwood was before he lost his head and became a liability. Ditto Hein, ditto Nyland.
My protestations thus far above have been assuming he was at least just an average keeper like Rafael was. If he's already known to be a bit of a liability then **** me this is nothing short of a ridiculous move and I therefore agree with whomever it is in pages above, who says that it's an odd move to move on our own boy Southwood to bring in this chap.
I refuse to believe we wouldn't be able to get someone better than someone with an error in him every game. No chance. I hope Ince et al know what they're doing - relegation season coming up with the dodgiest defence in the league already and another error-prone keeper.
God help us.
Still happy guys? Still defending this signing?
by Orion1871 » 13 Aug 2022 23:09
Royal_jimmySnowflake RoyalHound
Would rather make that call later in the season. Have a feeling he’ll end up first choice (and Southwood will go anyway)
I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
And as his loan to Cheltenham is proving so far he is also shit
by Stranded » 14 Aug 2022 07:15
MillsyMillsyStranded
Here you go
https://twitter.com/JoeJitsu2022/status ... wX55Mr3LGA
Also just read another that says - "Lumley is a perfectly serviceable mid-level championship keeper. However as any #Boro fan will tell you, he's got at least one rick a game in him hence the sale"
So hardly glowing but probably shows what he is - a mid-table Champ keeper who won't cut it for a team pushing for promotion but as the upper limit of our aspirations for this year is about 20th, he'll probably be fine.
Don't want to harp on with my opinion but that ["upper limit of our aspirations... 20th"] is exactly why it's a terrible idea, unless we're resigned to being relegated. Such a team needs a GOOD keeper. At the very least what Rafael was before he lost his head and became a liability. Or what Southwood was before he lost his head and became a liability. Ditto Hein, ditto Nyland.
My protestations thus far above have been assuming he was at least just an average keeper like Rafael was. If he's already known to be a bit of a liability then **** me this is nothing short of a ridiculous move and I therefore agree with whomever it is in pages above, who says that it's an odd move to move on our own boy Southwood to bring in this chap.
I refuse to believe we wouldn't be able to get someone better than someone with an error in him every game. No chance. I hope Ince et al know what they're doing - relegation season coming up with the dodgiest defence in the league already and another error-prone keeper.
God help us.
Still happy guys? Still defending this signing?
by SouthDownsRoyal » 14 Aug 2022 13:20
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Aug 2022 13:40
by Royal_jimmy » 14 Aug 2022 20:11
Snowflake RoyalHoundSnowflake Royal I hope not. That would mean Lumley really was shit and we were choosing a 30 odd L2 keeper over either of our young keepers with more recent higher level experience.
I hope Southwood goes. He's been treated badly here and deserves a shot as No 1 somewhere that he can progress his career.
Has he been treated badly?
I don’t think Ince rates him, and it’s the game that if that’s the case then he gets replaced
Not like he’s been made to train with the youths, publicly called out or anything
He had his contract extended and made his first team break through, got scapegoated after some errors and then told to leave within about 6 months. And so far we've not signed a replacement clearly better.
Yeah, I don't think he's been treated well.
by URZZZZ » 14 Aug 2022 20:40
StrandedMillsyMillsy
Don't want to harp on with my opinion but that ["upper limit of our aspirations... 20th"] is exactly why it's a terrible idea, unless we're resigned to being relegated. Such a team needs a GOOD keeper. At the very least what Rafael was before he lost his head and became a liability. Or what Southwood was before he lost his head and became a liability. Ditto Hein, ditto Nyland.
My protestations thus far above have been assuming he was at least just an average keeper like Rafael was. If he's already known to be a bit of a liability then **** me this is nothing short of a ridiculous move and I therefore agree with whomever it is in pages above, who says that it's an odd move to move on our own boy Southwood to bring in this chap.
I refuse to believe we wouldn't be able to get someone better than someone with an error in him every game. No chance. I hope Ince et al know what they're doing - relegation season coming up with the dodgiest defence in the league already and another error-prone keeper.
God help us.
Still happy guys? Still defending this signing?
Given it was one game and he has otherwise looked solid, yes. If yesterday is the level he puts out consistently, then no.
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Aug 2022 21:00
URZZZZStrandedMillsy
Still happy guys? Still defending this signing?
Given it was one game and he has otherwise looked solid, yes. If yesterday is the level he puts out consistently, then no.
The ironic thing is, of course, these posters (or at least most of them), certainly wouldn’t be bumping this thread the other way around. People’s desires to look “right” are strange. Although finding it equally strange people going on about Southwood in a negative manner
Lumley will win us games and lose us games - I.e. the life of a goalkeeper
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