RUMOUR - kris boyd

[FiNeRaIn]

Boyd wouldn't join reading, not a big enough club. Possibly wolves, birmingham or wba IMO.

[Colin Cheeselog]

A very good signiing if Birmingham get him. Would be the best forward in the division.

Apart from Doyle, Beattie and SEB....

In my opinion Boyd is better. Also in my opinion, if you watched him regularly you would agree with me.

[winchester_royal]

A very good signiing if Birmingham get him. Would be the best forward in the division.

Apart from Doyle, Beattie and SEB....

In my opinion Boyd is better. Also in my opinion, if you watched him regularly you would agree with me.

We'll see........I would imagine there is a reason no premiership club is looking at Boyd for 4 million. Especially when you consider the amount of money they were willing to spend on Doyle.

[Sun Tzu]

Boyd wouldn't join reading, not a big enough club. Possibly wolves, birmingham or wba IMO.

I assume you put together two sentences from different threads there as there seems a strange mismatch between the two comments.

Without igniting a pointless 'what is a big club' debate it is a bit silly to suggest a mid range Scottish striker would consider the subtle differences in perceived size of some very similar mid sized English clubs when deciding whose pay cheque he liked the best.

[Hoop Blah]

Boyd wouldn't join reading, not a big enough club. Possibly wolves, birmingham or wba IMO.

I assume you put together two sentences from different threads there as there seems a strange mismatch between the two comments.

Without igniting a pointless 'what is a big club' debate it is a bit silly to suggest a mid range Scottish striker would consider the subtle differences in perceived size of some very similar mid sized English clubs when deciding whose pay cheque he liked the best.

This is a footballers mind your all trying to read though, never easy to do!

I think our stock has risen quite significantly over the last few years, but I'd imagine we're still not as attractive a proposition as those mentioned IF the money is pretty equal. Coppell always seems to think so anyway...

[Deathy]

Er, why isn't Reading big enough?

Everything about the club is set for Premier League football. Full stadium to boot. Plans in place should we choose to develop the stadium to accomodate fans we know are there, albeit, glory supporters - like at any club (you are taking notice of Birmingham's attendances, FiNeRaIn?)

[Sun Tzu]

Boyd wouldn't join reading, not a big enough club. Possibly wolves, birmingham or wba IMO.

I assume you put together two sentences from different threads there as there seems a strange mismatch between the two comments.

Without igniting a pointless 'what is a big club' debate it is a bit silly to suggest a mid range Scottish striker would consider the subtle differences in perceived size of some very similar mid sized English clubs when deciding whose pay cheque he liked the best.

This is a footballers mind your all trying to read though, never easy to do!

Point taken !

I think our stock has risen quite significantly over the last few years, but I'd imagine we're still not as attractive a proposition as those mentioned IF the money is pretty equal. Coppell always seems to think so anyway...

I'd guess generally the others are prepared to shell out bigger wages. Coppell tends to be very narrow in the sort of player he wants anyway so whether there has ever really been a 'test case' I'm not sure. Birmingham will have the Scottish angle working in their favour perhaps.

[No Hoops]

Looks like the deal is off.

Can't agree personal terms. "Miles apart" according to B'ham website

[FiNeRaIn]

Er, why isn't Reading big enough?

Everything about the club is set for Premier League football. Full stadium to boot. Plans in place should we choose to develop the stadium to accomodate fans we know are there, albeit, glory supporters - like at any club (you are taking notice of Birmingham's attendances, FiNeRaIn?)

More ambition and wiling to spend more to attract players, on top of a far bigger history, birmingham are a bigger club im afraid. We are jsut a small club doing well, it wont last.

[Sun Tzu]

Er, why isn't Reading big enough?

Everything about the club is set for Premier League football. Full stadium to boot. Plans in place should we choose to develop the stadium to accomodate fans we know are there, albeit, glory supporters - like at any club (you are taking notice of Birmingham's attendances, FiNeRaIn?)

More ambition and wiling to spend more to attract players, on top of a far bigger history, birmingham are a bigger club im afraid. We are jsut a small club doing well, it wont last.

Their greater ambition hasn't actually delivered them anything, the players they are willing to pay more for aren't as good as ours and their history is as chock full of lower league titles and runners up awards as ours is. They can't even point to a decent cup or league win in the last 50 years !
Given the very similar crowds, the pretty mirror image recent league performances and factor in the ongoing financial turmoil I don;t think you can fit a fag paper between the two clubs if you take any kind of objective view....

[Deathy]

Er, why isn't Reading big enough?

Everything about the club is set for Premier League football. Full stadium to boot. Plans in place should we choose to develop the stadium to accomodate fans we know are there, albeit, glory supporters - like at any club (you are taking notice of Birmingham's attendances, FiNeRaIn?)

More ambition and wiling to spend more to attract players, on top of a far bigger history, birmingham are a bigger club im afraid. We are jsut a small club doing well, it wont last.

...the players they are willing to pay more for aren't as good as ours

Because Sinclair and Boyd aren't better than Long, Lita and Mooney?
Because Bowyer isn't better than Harper, Karacan, Gunnarsson?

We have a 'decent' 11, but our squad is weak.

[Hoop Blah]

Reading are perceived as a small time club on the up.

That's probably not as appealing to a player as a club with a history and image of a more passionate footballing city.

I'm sure if I were a player and not a Reading fan I'd probably rather play (money being equal) for someone like Stoke or Birmingham than a Reading or Wigan. It might not be right but I'm sure that's the perception.

[Mr Angry]

If history and size of team was a consideration, why did someone like Valencia go to Wigan???

I suggest that what motivates a player in moving to a club in the Championship are the following items in order...

1. Weekly salary
2. signing on fee
3. bonuses
4. chance of promotion to Premiership leading to an increase of numbers 1 and 3.

With Kris Boyd I suspect that he would be interested in Brum because of McLeish - don't forget he was a respected Scottish National Manager.

[Sun Tzu]

Reading are perceived as a small time club on the up.

That's probably not as appealing to a player as a club with a history and image of a more passionate footballing city.

I'm sure if I were a player and not a Reading fan I'd probably rather play (money being equal) for someone like Stoke or Birmingham than a Reading or Wigan. It might not be right but I'm sure that's the perception.

On the basis of your being a professional footballer I'll bow to your superior knowledge then ! I suspect the fact that Birmingham won the League Cup in the early 60's has a massive bearing on how a player in his early 20's decides who to sign for !

I also think your idea of how Reading might be perceived is several years out of date. Birmingham could be said to be perceived as a club run by a bunch of crooks totally overshadowed by their massively bigger and more successful local rivals who talk a better game than they actually deliver.

[Alan Partridge]

If history and size of team was a consideration, why did someone like Valencia go to Wigan???

I suggest that what motivates a player in moving to a club in the Championship are the following items in order...

1. Weekly salary
2. signing on fee
3. bonuses
4. chance of promotion to Premiership leading to an increase of numbers 1 and 3.

With Kris Boyd I suspect that he would be interested in Brum because of McLeish - don't forget he was a respected Scottish National Manager.

This is what it comes down to. As you rightly say McLeish could possibly have a bearing in that he's worked with him before twice maybe? Not to sound like Jay but reading that Boyd can't agree terms it would seem that it is very much an after thought. No doubt if he does sign for Birmingham the first thing he'll say 'well it was the manager that was the main reason for being here'.

[FiNeRaIn]

Reading are perceived as a small time club on the up.

That's probably not as appealing to a player as a club with a history and image of a more passionate footballing city.

I'm sure if I were a player and not a Reading fan I'd probably rather play (money being equal) for someone like Stoke or Birmingham than a Reading or Wigan. It might not be right but I'm sure that's the perception.

On the basis of your being a professional footballer I'll bow to your superior knowledge then ! I suspect the fact that Birmingham won the League Cup in the early 60's has a massive bearing on how a player in his early 20's decides who to sign for !

I also think your idea of how Reading might be perceived is several years out of date. Birmingham could be said to be perceived as a club run by a bunch of crooks totally overshadowed by their massively bigger and more successful local rivals who talk a better game than they actually deliver.

You can patronise him all you want, but hes spot on. Players don't want to play for us, thats why we attract sweet FA in the transfer market, coppells also commented on it.

[Sun Tzu]

You can patronise him all you want, but hes spot on. Players don't want to play for us, thats why we attract sweet FA in the transfer market, coppells also commented on it.

Who's patronising anyone ? That's the first cliche that gets trotted out when one of the megamouths realises they've had their bluff called.

Bizarre claim that we attract 'sweet FA' in the transfer market. Team packed full of internationals and given that you think Wolves, Brum and WBA are able to attract so many top class stars whilst we can't i wonder what explains the fact that over the last few seasons our record more than matches any of them !

[FiNeRaIn]

Were they itnernationals before they joined? No, not in most cases at all.
We can't attract anyone, I widely remember david connelly going " um no thanks, big club for me please", same with joleon lescott. Couple of months later everton sign him. Players don't want to play for us, we don't offer ambition or a high pay packet.

[TBM]

[Alan Partridge]

That's genius Although he's probably just notched against inverness or someone dump.