SPECULATION - Simon Cox

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Shane Long=Legend » 10 Nov 2008 17:57

I dont think Cox would 'do a tyson' as he doesnt seem as injury prone and he has a better all-round game at this stage than tyson when he left. Tyson seemed quite heavily-reliant (perhaps to the point of overly-reliant) on his pace, whereas cox has a brain, can finish in and around the box.

Unfortunately, cant see him wanting to come back to the club that didnt give him a sniff at the first team bar the peace cup, where he scored against a semi-decent lyon team and still didnt get a chance. Also gotta consider if he loves it at swindon, the rivalry factor might come into it.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by winchester_royal » 10 Nov 2008 18:23

Cox has been linked with Tottenham, Fulham and Sheff Utd today.

Still can't understand why we let him go....but nevermind.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by skipper » 10 Nov 2008 18:29

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 28,00.html



SERIOUSLY, sell Lita, bring back Cox.

Gutted!

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Hoop Blah » 12 Nov 2008 16:33

Dirk Gently At the time he was sold we looked to be in minimal danger of being relegated - and he'd never have a prayer of breaking into us as a PL team. So it was only fair to let him go and have a chance elsewhere.

I think if he and we had known we'd be going down thing would have been quite different!


MINIMAL DANGER???? We were something like two points clear of relegation and hadn't won for 8 or 9 games! And that's not to mention the lack of goals we'd seen for quite some time.

Stranded It probably will be a mistake and arguements can be made that he may have been worth a try last year but as said, when he went we couldn't predict the four strikers ahead of him all playing so poorly. By all accounts, Cox wanted first team football there and then, so we let him go.

If he'd been prepared to hang around until the end of the season, I think he would have played a big part in this season. He wasn't so he isn't and is doing well at the level below.


I think it was a big mistake not giving him more of a chance before it got to the point he really had to leave. I think if he'd stayed he'd have quite likely been a success for us this season as it turned out, but I don't blame him one bit for taking his chance of a half decent deal with a club he already knew and could hit the ground running and stay local to his friends and family.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Uke » 12 Nov 2008 16:46

Hindsight, ain't it wonderful?

If we'd played Cox instead of our 'proven' strikers would you (and the STGs) not have been posting about a complete lack of sense on the managemet's part at such a critical time in the season?


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Hoop Blah » 13 Nov 2008 10:52

Uke Hindsight, ain't it wonderful?

If we'd played Cox instead of our 'proven' strikers would you (and the STGs) not have been posting about a complete lack of sense on the managemet's part at such a critical time in the season?


No, I think I've said this all along thanks.

I don't think Cox was the saviour of our season last year, but he deserved to be given a decent chance after consistently performing for us and his loan teams. He harldy even got a decent run out in the cup games, and that goes for the likes of Henry and Pearce as well when Coppell decided to play Halls and Sodje instead of bloody our promising youngsters.

That's not hindsight, it's what I said at the time having watched them all play numerous times for the reserves and wanting them to be given a chance over players who were never going to have a future at the club.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by brendywendy » 13 Nov 2008 12:20

he wasnt ready for teh prem
if wed been in the championship hed have gotten a game
now hes performing well at league one, hes probably ready for a step up to the championship next year, if he continues in the rich vein of form, then maybe, just maybe hell make it in the prem.

anything stronger than that is pure fantasy

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Hoop Blah » 13 Nov 2008 12:27

brendywendy he wasnt ready for teh prem
if wed been in the championship hed have gotten a game
now hes performing well at league one, hes probably ready for a step up to the championship next year, if he continues in the rich vein of form, then maybe, just maybe hell make it in the prem.

anything stronger than that is pure fantasy


How do yo know?

Was Shane Long ready for the Premiership? Was Jimmy Kebe? Could Cox really have done any worse than the rest of our forwards last year? He was brimming full of confidence when he came back from loan, he was in good form, he'd shown in the one half against Spurs he could handle himself against Premiership defenders and he could've been that spark to get us out of the rutt we'd been in.

Almost everyone has accepted that Coppell didn't change things around enough and that was a massive contributory factor in our downfall. I'm not saying that Cox is better than Lita, Doyle or Kitson, or that his career will go on to be as good as theirs, but sometimes being the right player in the right place at the right time is enough to change a teams fortunes. The lower leagues are full of players who've had fleeting impacts on top flight teams.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Deathy » 13 Nov 2008 13:34

skipper http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_4481728,00.html



SERIOUSLY, sell Lita, bring back Cox.

Gutted!


I'd take that. I'd even through Long in and make it BOGOF :wink:


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by sheshnu » 13 Nov 2008 14:38

This discussion reminds me of when Tyson was banging them in for Wycombe. What ever happened to him?

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Uke » 13 Nov 2008 19:00

Hoop Blah
Uke Hindsight, ain't it wonderful?

If we'd played Cox instead of our 'proven' strikers would you (and the STGs) not have been posting about a complete lack of sense on the managemet's part at such a critical time in the season?


No, I think I've said this all along thanks.

I don't think Cox was the saviour of our season last year, but he deserved to be given a decent chance after consistently performing for us and his loan teams. He harldy even got a decent run out in the cup games, and that goes for the likes of Henry and Pearce as well when Coppell decided to play Halls and Sodje instead of bloody our promising youngsters.

That's not hindsight, it's what I said at the time having watched them all play numerous times for the reserves and wanting them to be given a chance over players who were never going to have a future at the club.


Apologies, but think of the flak you'd have had to take from the hardcore STGs! ;)

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Dirk Gently » 13 Nov 2008 19:09

Hoop Blah
Dirk Gently At the time he was sold we looked to be in minimal danger of being relegated - and he'd never have a prayer of breaking into us as a PL team. So it was only fair to let him go and have a chance elsewhere.

I think if he and we had known we'd be going down thing would have been quite different!


MINIMAL DANGER???? We were something like two points clear of relegation and hadn't won for 8 or 9 games! And that's not to mention the lack of goals we'd seen for quite some time.


Okm perhaps minimal danger was under-stating things, but at the time we wern't in a relagation place, we were 3 days ahead of playing Bolton at home and, as everyone knows, winning that would have taken us out of trouble. And at the time Derby were doomed and we were miles ahead of Fulham, so everyone believed that all we had to do was stay ahead of Birminghamm - which we actually did achieve. But my point is that no-one in the club at the time was talking about relegation or planning for it, which is why they let him go.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by 1871royals » 13 Nov 2008 19:54

I don’t think we should have played Cox last season, considering we had so many strikers. SC was always going to keep faith with Doyle so there was only 1 spot available.

It’s a bit harsh to compare Cox to Tyson. The little I have seen of Cox he seems to have more of an all round game. Also I don’t think Tyson scored goals at the phenomenal rate that Cox is. Cox probably has a better goal record than Tyson at League 1 level.


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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by rfcjoe » 13 Nov 2008 21:58

skipper http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_4481728,00.html



SERIOUSLY, sell Lita, bring back Cox.

Gutted!

:evil: :evil: :evil: Genuinely fooked off about Coppell on this one. Back when he stuck with the deadwood, youngsters like Coxy weren't getting a fookin look in! Now he changes his morales ever so slightly and its too l8!

Well done indeed. :roll:

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Deathy » 14 Nov 2008 07:47

1871royals I don’t think we should have played Cox last season, considering we had so many strikers.


:shock:

Lita out on loan, only Doyle, Kitson and Long left.

Yeah, too many! I wouldn't even count Long. :roll:

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 14 Nov 2008 14:38

He'll be playing Prem football come January, and even if rarely gets a chance and "only" warms the bench - he'll be doing well for himself - eventually I think he could be a regular Prem player. For the sake of £200k, we should have kept him on, at least until we knew our fate on the last day of the season and then either kept him and given him a chance in the first team, or let him go, if he wanted out.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Dirk Gently » 14 Nov 2008 16:05

Swindon part company with Malpas

Malpas had only been in charge of Swindon for 10 months
Swindon Town have parted company with manager Maurice Malpas by mutual consent following a disappointing start to the season.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/7728908.stm

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Sun Tzu » 14 Nov 2008 16:59

I'd be surprised if Cox goes to a Prem side, a Championship side (QPR, Norwich ?) might take a punt but it would be a gamble for a Prem side.

I'm sure we'd have been happy to keep him had he decided he wanted to stay and fight for a place, but he chose not to and it's maybe an example of Coppell being too 'fair' on players.

We'll never know if Cox would have made any impact in the latter stages of last season or even this.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Royal Lady » 14 Nov 2008 18:06

Well, all my info is that he's said it's 99% certain he'll go to Fulham or Spurs. He just has to decide which one he wants to join.

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Re: SPECULATION - Simon Cox

by Uke » 14 Nov 2008 18:10

Royal Lady For the sake of £200k, we should have kept him on


And how many other support staff should we have made redundant to cover the 200k shortfall?

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