New centre back?

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New centre back?

by UpNorth » 24 Jun 2009 19:59

If the EP is to be believed then BR is in the market for another centre back as Inga may not be fit for the start of the season.

Who could we get either to buy or on loan?

De Merit at Watford - currently having a good tournament playing for USA but might be expensive.

Killgallon at the Blades has decided not to sign a new contract and wants to move on

Cork on loan - he has played this position in the past

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Re: New centre back?

by Plymouth_Royal » 24 Jun 2009 20:15

UpNorth If the EP is to be believed then BR is in the market for another centre back as Inga may not be fit for the start of the season.

Who could we get either to buy or on loan?

De Merit at Watford - currently having a good tournament playing for USA but might be expensive.

Killgallon at the Blades has decided not to sign a new contract and wants to move on

Cork on loan - he has played this position in the past


De Merit - Nope too slow and shite.

Killgallon turned us down once because he didn't think we were a big enough club so he can F'off.

Cork is definately a good player but dm is his best postion. We have Ivar, pearce, bikey and cisse can play there, but to have another player where CB is an unnatural position is not a clever idea. I would think he would get a fast, experienced CB and then when/if bikey goes then another CB on loan as cover.

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Re: New centre back?

by Deathy » 24 Jun 2009 20:49

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UpNorth If the EP is to be believed then BR is in the market for another centre back as Inga may not be fit for the start of the season.

Who could we get either to buy or on loan?

De Merit at Watford - currently having a good tournament playing for USA but might be expensive.

Killgallon at the Blades has decided not to sign a new contract and wants to move on

Cork on loan - he has played this position in the past


De Merit - Nope too slow and shite.

Killgallon turned us down once because he didn't think we were a big enough club so he can F'off.

Cork is definately a good player but dm is his best postion. We have Ivar, pearce, bikey and cisse can play there, but to have another player where CB is an unnatural position is not a clever idea. I would think he would get a fast, experienced CB and then when/if bikey goes then another CB on loan as cover.


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Re: New centre back?

by The 17 Bus » 24 Jun 2009 21:10

Reading between the lines of the article it looks like they expect bikey to leave.

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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 24 Jun 2009 21:11

Spain yet to score. De Merit must be doing something right.


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Re: New centre back?

by Plymouth_Royal » 24 Jun 2009 22:36

Ian Royal Spain yet to score. De Merit must be doing something right.


If your guna judge him on that one game then yes. But over the course of the season he was part of a watford team that conceded 72 goals and had the second worst defence in the league. Plus he got owned in the prem when watford were there. If he was any good then im sure he would have been snapped up by a bigger and better club.

As for deathy's short and sweet remark.....yes, you are.

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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 24 Jun 2009 22:42

Still fairly young isn't he? Anyway, I'm not saying he's great and we should get him, just that I suspect he's very far from shite.

I'd like someone who wasn't prone to making stupid lunges for the ball, can control their temper and will let the full backs and midfielders try the complicated passes and just keep it simple. Obviously being able to head, mark and tackle go without saying.

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Re: New centre back?

by Plymouth_Royal » 25 Jun 2009 00:23

Ian Royal Still fairly young isn't he? Anyway, I'm not saying he's great and we should get him, just that I suspect he's very far from shite.

I'd like someone who wasn't prone to making stupid lunges for the ball, can control their temper and will let the full backs and midfielders try the complicated passes and just keep it simple. Obviously being able to head, mark and tackle go without saying.


I see your point. He's 29, peak for his position. Another Ivar, but younger,faster and stronger would be class at the back.

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Re: New centre back?

by rg6royal » 25 Jun 2009 11:05

Someone like De-Merit would be good. A real leader from the back and pretty solid, so will add some bite to the team.


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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 25 Jun 2009 12:22

Besides we've got no yanks now. Unfair on all our supporters across the pond who joined us because of Convey and Hahnemann. :wink:

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Re: New centre back?

by Scarface » 25 Jun 2009 12:31

I think you need 4 recognised CB's if you're serious about mounting a promotion this season. Currently we have Ivar(injured), pearce and bikey(5 match ban) so it's an absolute must we sign one, probably two, preferably one better than all 3 listed. Cisse/Bryn can only cover CB, so they should be be counted as CB in the squad. If Bikey is sold then we'll definately need 2 as I would not want to start the season with Pearce and Ivar, as they have been proven to be too slow as a pairing.

I hoped we'd be interested in Mills, but that seems unlikely at the current reported transfer fee for him.

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Re: New centre back?

by Royalee » 25 Jun 2009 14:45

I hope we sign him just to piss Watford off even more to be honest, I'm quite amused at the amount of stick we're getting for being a bigger club than them.

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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 25 Jun 2009 17:15

Scarface I think you need 4 recognised CB's if you're serious about mounting a promotion this season. Currently we have Ivar(injured), pearce and bikey(5 match ban) so it's an absolute must we sign one, probably two, preferably one better than all 3 listed. Cisse/Bryn can only cover CB, so they should be be counted as CB in the squad. If Bikey is sold then we'll definately need 2 as I would not want to start the season with Pearce and Ivar, as they have been proven to be too slow as a pairing.

I hoped we'd be interested in Mills, but that seems unlikely at the current reported transfer fee for him.



we had, and needed 2 when we got promoted last. Cisse's best position is centreback and he considers himself a defender. If Bikey is off and Ivar is injured then we need one.


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Re: New centre back?

by Southbank Old Boy » 25 Jun 2009 18:28

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Scarface I think you need 4 recognised CB's if you're serious about mounting a promotion this season. Currently we have Ivar(injured), pearce and bikey(5 match ban) so it's an absolute must we sign one, probably two, preferably one better than all 3 listed. Cisse/Bryn can only cover CB, so they should be be counted as CB in the squad. If Bikey is sold then we'll definately need 2 as I would not want to start the season with Pearce and Ivar, as they have been proven to be too slow as a pairing.

I hoped we'd be interested in Mills, but that seems unlikely at the current reported transfer fee for him.



we had, and needed 2 when we got promoted last. Cisse's best position is centreback and he considers himself a defender. If Bikey is off and Ivar is injured then we need one.


What makes you say that about Cisse?

I am discounting Bikey as I will be pleasantly surprised if he is here come the end of September, so I agree with Scarface and we need 2 new centre backs in the squad and one of them should be good enough that we expect him to walk into the team and be the corner stone of our back four

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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 25 Jun 2009 18:31

The performances in midfield have been poor. Defence ok to good. He described himself as a defender the only time I've heard him talk about his position. He played in Defence for Boavista(?)

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Re: New centre back?

by Southbank Old Boy » 25 Jun 2009 18:40

Ian Royal The performances in midfield have been poor. Defence ok to good. He described himself as a defender the only time I've heard him talk about his position. He played in Defence for Boavista(?)


He looked like a midfielder filling in at the back whenever I saw him there, but his pace got him out of trouble and he did ok. Not being a fan of his in the middle I would love for him to be the answer at centre back but he just doesnt look good enough there

Cant say I can ever remember him saying he was a defender before, although it was said that he played at centre back quite a bit for his old club. Not being able to head the ball very well is going to be a pretty major failing for a Championship centre back though

Ok as emergency back up, but not as one of the 4 we need competing and covering for the starting places though please

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Re: New centre back?

by Ian Royal » 25 Jun 2009 18:59

Said it on Sky when the team were doing the crossbar challenge.

I'd agree I'm not sure he's strong enough for first choice, but I think he's perfectly good cover. I certainly don't think we need more than 4 players for centreback. One of our problems recently has been an over large squad of mediocre players.

2 for each position is absolutely fine. We don't need a squad of 35 or 40 players. We need a squad of about 25 with room for youngsters to step up to the bench if need be. We need those players to be good and reliable.

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Re: New centre back?

by Plymouth_Royal » 25 Jun 2009 19:09

Ian Royal The performances in midfield have been poor. Defence ok to good. He described himself as a defender the only time I've heard him talk about his position. He played in Defence for Boavista(?)


Not having a dig here. but he played DM for boavista. I have family over there for the past 20yrs and my grandad was raving on about him when he found out cisse was signing for us. played a couple of games as a centre back though, but defending against liga sagres strikers isn't hard unless your playing against one of the big three.

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Re: New centre back?

by Southbank Old Boy » 25 Jun 2009 19:56

Ian Royal Said it on Sky when the team were doing the crossbar challenge.


Thats hardly an in depth discussion about his strengths now is it?

Ian Royal I'd agree I'm not sure he's strong enough for first choice, but I think he's perfectly good cover. I certainly don't think we need more than 4 players for centreback. One of our problems recently has been an over large squad of mediocre players.

2 for each position is absolutely fine. We don't need a squad of 35 or 40 players. We need a squad of about 25 with room for youngsters to step up to the bench if need be. We need those players to be good and reliable.


Agree that the squad has carried too much in the way of mediocre backup players over the last season or so, but we still need 4 recognised centre backs good enough for this league

We have 2 in Ivar and Pearce (although a little untested over a full season but looks good enough to step up) but I think they both need someone with a bit of pace alongside them. IF we were able to keep Bikey then he could fill that role, but realistically I think we have to expect him to be off at some point, so thats 1 and then you need a 4th to add competition and depth to the squad (thats the 2 for each position). Cisse and Bryn and fill in for emergencies on top of that

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Re: New centre back?

by SteveRoyal » 26 Jun 2009 15:33

What about that Dag&Red defender who refused a new contract?

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