The generic transfer thread

[Sanguine]

I am sure its been pointed out a lot, but it does make me lol how outraged Newcastle and their fans were over Isak's behaviour, yet they then used the money to sign Wissa, someone who was copying Isak's behaviour to get a move to Newcastle, and they are celebrating his move there.

its another of those things in life (like much of politics) where people don't actually care much at all about it, but they are being told repeatedly by the media that actually they are outraged by it, so they feel they need to join in with the general outrage noise.

This debate bores me. I'm an accountant. If I freelance I might sign a 12 month contract with a company to produce x, y and z. I am not a footballer. Football contracts are different. Whilst substantially they might state that player x gets paid y for z years, they represent a store of value to the club. Does anyone seriously think Erling Haaland wants to be at City when he is 33? Of course not. But when Madrid come calling, he'll have years left on his contract and City will get paid. Like Isak. Years left on his deal, £130m in the bank.

'Isak should honour his contract'. Yawn. If football fans got their way, contracts would be shorter and their favourite players would walk away from clubs for free season after season.

[Winston Biscuit]

General ponder - I do wonder how long it will be until we see some superstar player be owned by a non club, maybe even owned by himself, and loaned out to different teams each season for crazy wages.

[BRO_BOT]

General ponder - I do wonder how long it will be until we see some superstar player be owned by a non club, maybe even owned by himself, and loaned out to different teams each season for crazy wages.

No third-party ownership. Which is a shame, as you could set up some kind of 'stock exchange' for players

[Winston Biscuit]

General ponder - I do wonder how long it will be until we see some superstar player be owned by a non club, maybe even owned by himself, and loaned out to different teams each season for crazy wages.

No third-party ownership. Which is a shame, as you could set up some kind of 'stock exchange' for players

Some young hotshot lawyer will think of a way around that at some point (before discovering an unrelated scam going on between the old fat cats that run the law firm and he has to go on the run with the evidence)

Maybe register yourself as a football club, enter the pyramid at the lowest level possible, register yourself as a player to your own club, then loan yourself out.

Winston Wanderers join the 15th tier of English football. Young Brazilian superstar Winstinho De La Biscuit is registered as a player. Winstinho then gets loaned out to Arsenal for the first half of the 25/26 season, then joins Liverpool for the 2nd half of the season.

[Winston Biscuit]

Ben Chillwell joins Strasbourg

he is only 28. I assumed he was mid 30's for some reason.

[Winston Biscuit]

Also heard a journo say it was believed Raheem Sterling didn't want to go out on loan, would only transfer to another club in London and wouldn't accept any deduction on his £300,000 a week wages. So he is now at Chelsea but not in their squad for the season.

[Stranded]

Also heard a journo say it was believed Raheem Sterling didn't want to go out on loan, would only transfer to another club in London and wouldn't accept any deduction on his £300,000 a week wages. So he is now at Chelsea but not in their squad for the season.

All of which is his right - as mentioned elsewhere, footballers are people too and not just commodities to be pushed around Europe on a whim.

He's 30, on a very good deal that no-one forced Chelsea to offer him and his family are settled - in that situation I think it's fair that he would rather be somewhere that he can see his family grow up rather than be shunted to the other end of the country/Europe for 12 months.

So he might as well just go to work everyday, collect his pay packet, enjoy the time with his kids and see what January brings.

[6ft Kerplunk]

Ben Chillwell joins Strasbourg.

Strasbourg owned by the same people as Chelsea. Chillwell is the fourth Chelsea player to join them this summer. All definitely above board and not another FFP loop hole being exploited. Must have run out of infrastructure to sell back to themselves.

[Sanguine]

Ben Chillwell joins Strasbourg.

Strasbourg owned by the same people as Chelsea. Chillwell is the fourth Chelsea player to join them this summer. All definitely above board and not another FFP loop hole being exploited. Must have run out of infrastructure to sell back to themselves.

A small positive is that, it seems, FFP is finally forcing clubs to sell players they have previously been able to horde. Chelsea's shenanigans with Strasbourg not withstanding, they have been carrying a huge squad - have made sales over £300m this summer.

Some of the fees clubs have received are mindblowing. Chelsea* got a combined £70m for Ugochukwu, Broja and Chukwuemeka. Liverpool £60m for Quansah, Morton and Doak. City signed a Brazilian called Yan Couto in 2021 - he never played for the club, and they sold him to Dortmund for £20m. Also got £13m for Maximo Perrone. And £30m for James McAtee is crazy too.

*They also bought Mathis Amougou from St. Etienne for €15m and then sold him to Strasbourg for the same amount six months later. That's just odd, but I can't work out the dodginess there, if there is any.

[Winston Biscuit]

that thing of a player going to a big club, doing nothing, sometimes hardly ever even playing, then getting sold on for much more money just because they have been at the big club, is one of the oddest things about transfers

[Sutekh]

Also heard a journo say it was believed Raheem Sterling didn't want to go out on loan, would only transfer to another club in London and wouldn't accept any deduction on his £300,000 a week wages. So he is now at Chelsea but not in their squad for the season.

All of which is his right - as mentioned elsewhere, footballers are people too and not just commodities to be pushed around Europe on a whim.

He's 30, on a very good deal that no-one forced Chelsea to offer him and his family are settled - in that situation I think it's fair that he would rather be somewhere that he can see his family grow up rather than be shunted to the other end of the country/Europe for 12 months.

So he might as well just go to work everyday, collect his pay packet, enjoy the time with his kids and see what January brings.

And he’s also patient zero in the Isak/Wissa/Garnacho “how to get the transfer you want” clinic for entitled footballers, so this is some karma for him to think on.

[South Coast Royal]

Also heard a journo say it was believed Raheem Sterling didn't want to go out on loan, would only transfer to another club in London and wouldn't accept any deduction on his £300,000 a week wages. So he is now at Chelsea but not in their squad for the season.

All of which is his right - as mentioned elsewhere, footballers are people too and not just commodities to be pushed around Europe on a whim.

He's 30, on a very good deal that no-one forced Chelsea to offer him and his family are settled - in that situation I think it's fair that he would rather be somewhere that he can see his family grow up rather than be shunted to the other end of the country/Europe for 12 months.

So he might as well just go to work everyday, collect his pay packet, enjoy the time with his kids and see what January brings.

Chelsea of course have history with this sort of thing-Winston Bogarde anybody?

[South Coast Royal]

I am sure its been pointed out a lot, but it does make me lol how outraged Newcastle and their fans were over Isak's behaviour, yet they then used the money to sign Wissa, someone who was copying Isak's behaviour to get a move to Newcastle, and they are celebrating his move there.

its another of those things in life (like much of politics) where people don't actually care much at all about it, but they are being told repeatedly by the media that actually they are outraged by it, so they feel they need to join in with the general outrage noise.

This debate bores me. I'm an accountant. If I freelance I might sign a 12 month contract with a company to produce x, y and z. I am not a footballer. Football contracts are different. Whilst substantially they might state that player x gets paid y for z years, they represent a store of value to the club. Does anyone seriously think Erling Haaland wants to be at City when he is 33? Of course not. But when Madrid come calling, he'll have years left on his contract and City will get paid. Like Isak. Years left on his deal, £130m in the bank.

'Isak should honour his contract'. Yawn. If football fans got their way, contracts would be shorter and their favourite players would walk away from clubs for free season after season.

One other thing, you would think that Newcastle had developed the player from a youth team player to the ace striker that he now is.
The fact is that before joining Newcastle he was already a top striker with a background of clubs as good as Newcastle in Dortmund and Sociedad and Newcastle paid top dollar at the time to get him for £63million in 2022,

So having already played for 3 different clubs in 3 different countries he is well travelled and owes Newcastle nothing-in fact they have done well when he has played and have now made £60 million or so profit on his sale enabling them to spend big on another younger striker.

Rather than being castigated for taking the stance that he did I believe what the player said that he was promised higher wages and a revised contract, but we will never know.
People tend to believe everything that Saint Eddie utters is gospel as he has an honest and cherubic face but there is a much harder, cunning and ambitious person (and why not?) behind the angelic exterior.

[Sutekh]

I am sure its been pointed out a lot, but it does make me lol how outraged Newcastle and their fans were over Isak's behaviour, yet they then used the money to sign Wissa, someone who was copying Isak's behaviour to get a move to Newcastle, and they are celebrating his move there.

its another of those things in life (like much of politics) where people don't actually care much at all about it, but they are being told repeatedly by the media that actually they are outraged by it, so they feel they need to join in with the general outrage noise.

This debate bores me. I'm an accountant. If I freelance I might sign a 12 month contract with a company to produce x, y and z. I am not a footballer. Football contracts are different. Whilst substantially they might state that player x gets paid y for z years, they represent a store of value to the club. Does anyone seriously think Erling Haaland wants to be at City when he is 33? Of course not. But when Madrid come calling, he'll have years left on his contract and City will get paid. Like Isak. Years left on his deal, £130m in the bank.

'Isak should honour his contract'. Yawn. If football fans got their way, contracts would be shorter and their favourite players would walk away from clubs for free season after season.

One other thing, you would think that Newcastle had developed the player from a youth team player to the ace striker that he now is.
The fact is that before joining Newcastle he was already a top striker with a background of clubs as good as Newcastle in Dortmund and Sociedad and Newcastle paid top dollar at the time to get him for £63million in 2022,

So having already played for 3 different clubs in 3 different countries he is well travelled and owes Newcastle nothing-in fact they have done well when he has played and have now made £60 million or so profit on his sale enabling them to spend big on another younger striker.

Rather than being castigated for taking the stance that he did I believe what the player said that he was promised higher wages and a revised contract, but we will never know.
People tend to believe everything that Saint Eddie utters is gospel as he has an honest and cherubic face but there is a much harder, cunning and ambitious person (and why not?) behind the angelic exterior.

Plenty of at the Newcastle fanbase not getting the irony of Liverpool supposedly unsettling Isak while Newcastle were doing exactly the same to Wissa. They now all hate Isak for his stance but Wissa is the new Mr Perfect. Proves the point that 99% of football fans are hypocrites.

[Silver Fox]

I saw a thing on Facebook with a Newcastle fan crying about how Newcastle wasn't mentioned once in Isak's introductory video while Wissa mentioned Brentford in his. They're in danger of becoming as daft as Arsenal fans