Club culture - are problems deeper than management?

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Re: Club culture - are problems deeper than management?

by PieEater » 07 Oct 2025 09:42

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PieEater We're a relatively big club in league 1 and for a lot of teams playing us we're a scalp they what to take and raise their game.

Are we though? A third of the league are ex-PL clubs, and three of them were more recently in the PL than us. We don't have a history of winning much, we don't have a large fanbase, we don't even have an especially large stadium. This is our third season in League One. I don't think many oppositions fans look at the fixture list and think of us as a particularly big match. We're not even all that local to anybody.


I was bemused as anyone to hear away fans chanting "Premier League - you cocked it up".

My point was that you'd have to think for a lot of teams at this level it's a premier league standard ground, not exclusively, I'm sure they raise they raise their game at Bolton or Cardiff too, but probably not so much at Luton.

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Re: Club culture - are problems deeper than management?

by Royal_jimmy » 07 Oct 2025 16:05

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PieEater We're a relatively big club in league 1 and for a lot of teams playing us we're a scalp they what to take and raise their game.

Are we though? A third of the league are ex-PL clubs, and three of them were more recently in the PL than us. We don't have a history of winning much, we don't have a large fanbase, we don't even have an especially large stadium. This is our third season in League One. I don't think many oppositions fans look at the fixture list and think of us as a particularly big match. We're not even all that local to anybody.


I was bemused as anyone to hear away fans chanting "Premier League - you cocked it up".

My point was that you'd have to think for a lot of teams at this level it's a premier league standard ground, not exclusively, I'm sure they raise they raise their game at Bolton or Cardiff too, but probably not so much at Luton.


We're still a pretty big club for this league and have had more success recently than even some of the ex league one clubs in league one. To be honest when you're a club in the same division for a while, clubs see you less as a big match. When we were in the championship for 10 years in a row, I stopped thinking of fixtures against the likes of Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest or even Aston Villa as 'big'. It's all relative to how often we play those clubs.

On your fanbase point rabidbee we have a lot of armchair plastic fans who will go when we're doing well, but won't go when times aren't exciting and who also probably support other clubs like the London ones on the side. We could easily fill our stadium week in week out if we were successful. We easily can sell 35k tickets at Wembley fixtures. Would a club like Exeter, Northampton, Rotherham or even a Blackpool do that? Not a big fanbase in context of higher leagues, sure. For league one we definitely have a decent sized fanbase.

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