Record Watch 23/24

[windermereROYAL]

One left

[LUX]

Great stuff.

[stealthpapes]

Leicester mates now thinking its blown and even 4th is a possibility.

[Sutekh]

Leicester mates now thinking its blown and even 4th is a possibility.

With facing PL sanctions, if they do fail to go up they could be the biggest "riches to rags" story seen in the FL.

[stealthpapes]

Leicester mates now thinking its blown and even 4th is a possibility.

With facing PL sanctions, if they do fail to go up they could be the biggest "riches to rags" story seen in the FL.

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Leicester mates now thinking its blown and even 4th is a possibility.

With facing PL sanctions, if they do fail to go up they could be the biggest "riches to rags" story seen in the FL.

Lol

[The Royal Forester]

If Leicester were to win all their remaining matches they will equal 106 points. If they were deducted points will they still be equal with us or will they forfeit any claim on the record. I know it is not likely, but just wondering.
In the meantime Sir Steve, get ready to fill that glass with wine.

[Sutekh]

If Leicester were to win all their remaining matches they will equal 106 points. If they were deducted points will they still be equal with us or will they forfeit any claim on the record. I know it is not likely, but just wondering.
In the meantime Sir Steve, get ready to fill that glass with wine.

Why would they be deducted points though? They might face charges from the PL and the PL won't be able to deduct FL points.

[The Royal Forester]

If Leicester were to win all their remaining matches they will equal 106 points. If they were deducted points will they still be equal with us or will they forfeit any claim on the record. I know it is not likely, but just wondering.
In the meantime Sir Steve, get ready to fill that glass with wine.

Why would they be deducted points though? They might face charges from the PL and the PL won't be able to deduct FL points.

An article in The Athletic, dated 25.March seems to suggest otherwise, (sorry I don't know how to post a link to it). I must admit though, that I did think that what you say is true.

[Mr Angry]

Didn't Leicester succesfully argue that, because they were in the Premier League at the time of the breaches, the EFL had no jurisdiction, and then when the Premier League went after them (because of this defence), they tried to argue that, because they were now in the EFL, the Premier League had no jurisdicition! (Talk about wanting your cake and eating it!) That is what was rejected and why - in the event that they do get promoted - they will get hammered with a large points deduction, made worse because they are in no way co-operating with the Premier League or accepting they have done anything.

Our transgressions have been through sheer ownership incompetence and then his loss of interest in our football club; Leicester's were done both knowingly and very deliberately in order to get a definite sporting advantage over their rivals, firstly to try to stay in the Premier League and then to get promoted out of the EFL, and now they are trying to game the system (and not for the first time) to avoid punishment.

Awful club.

[Franchise FC]

Didn't Leicester succesfully argue that, because they were in the Premier League at the time of the breaches, the EFL had no jurisdiction, and then when the Premier League went after them (because of this defence), they tried to argue that, because they were now in the EFL, the Premier League had no jurisdicition! (Talk about wanting your cake and eating it!) That is what was rejected and why - in the event that they do get promoted - they will get hammered with a large points deduction, made worse because they are in no way co-operating with the Premier League or accepting they have done anything.

Our transgressions have been through sheer ownership incompetence and then his loss of interest in our football club; Leicester's were done both knowingly and very deliberately in order to get a definite sporting advantage over their rivals, firstly to try to stay in the Premier League and then to get promoted out of the EFL, and now they are trying to game the system (and not for the first time) to avoid punishment.

Awful club.

It’s a real shame because they managed to win the PL and the FA Cup without spending fortunes and always seemed to be, at that point, doing it right

[LUX]

Surprised you all missed Chesterfield. They won the National League by a mile, and were on course to beat 106 easily. They seem to have gone on cruise mode and have only one win in five. Lost again yesterday, cannot now do 106

[Orion1871]

Surprised you all missed Chesterfield. They won the National League by a mile, and were on course to beat 106 easily. They seem to have gone on cruise mode and have only one win in five. Lost again yesterday, cannot now do 106

If that league counted then it would already have been beaten.

Wrexham got 111 last season and Notts County finished 2nd on 107. National League doesn't count.

[Stranded]

Surprised you all missed Chesterfield. They won the National League by a mile, and were on course to beat 106 easily. They seem to have gone on cruise mode and have only one win in five. Lost again yesterday, cannot now do 106

If that league counted then it would already have been beaten.

Wrexham got 111 last season and Notts County finished 2nd on 107. National League doesn't count.

Quite, it's a football league record - the all time record at any level in England is AFC Wimbledon's 130 points when winning the CCL Premier League - they also scored 180 goals that season with their top scorer netting 53 time.

[LUX]

Ok, fair enough

[Snowflake Royal]

Surprised you all missed Chesterfield. They won the National League by a mile, and were on course to beat 106 easily. They seem to have gone on cruise mode and have only one win in five. Lost again yesterday, cannot now do 106

If that league counted then it would already have been beaten.

Wrexham got 111 last season and Notts County finished 2nd on 107. National League doesn't count.

This.

[Sutekh]

PPG wise Mancheater City have the record with 2.6315 (Liverpool were also the only other league side to better 2.6 points a game when finishing 2nd that season) meanwhile Reading's ppg was only a paltry, by comparison, 2.3043 in the 106 season, though still the best in the FL.

Liverpool were the best ever under 2 points for a win with a PPG of 1.619 in 1978/79.

[Snowflake Royal]

PPG wise Mancheater City have the record with 2.6315 (Liverpool were also the only other league side to better 2.6 points a game when finishing 2nd that season) meanwhile Reading's ppg was only a paltry, by comparison, 2.3043 in the 106 season, though still the best in the FL.

Liverpool were the best ever under 2 points for a win with a PPG of 1.619 in 1978/79.

Chelsea had also already beaten it on a ppg basis.

But then, it's a football league points record, not a best ever team or best points per game or best results in a division record. So none of that or seasons played under 2 points for a win, or PL or NL matter.

[Clyde1998]

Surprised you all missed Chesterfield. They won the National League by a mile, and were on course to beat 106 easily. They seem to have gone on cruise mode and have only one win in five. Lost again yesterday, cannot now do 106

If that league counted then it would already have been beaten.

Wrexham got 111 last season and Notts County finished 2nd on 107. National League doesn't count.

Quite, it's a football league record - the all time record at any level in England is AFC Wimbledon's 130 points when winning the CCL Premier League - they also scored 180 goals that season with their top scorer netting 53 time.

Our 106 season remains the professional record in England. The National League isn't a completely professional division - this season Maidenhead, Dorking, Wealdstone and Oxford City are all semi-professional sides.

On the flip side, there are three professional clubs in the National League North (Scunthorpe; South Shields; King's Lynn) and four in the South (Yeovil; Torquay; Maidstone; Eastbourne). There's additionally one side in the seventh tier (Dulwich Hamlet) who are professional.

The definition of 'professional' is a bit blurred, although apparently the only official difference is semi-professional clubs pay their players during the football season (basically a few weeks before the competitive season starts until the end of the competitive season) whilst professional clubs pay their players all year (including when the off-season). A lot of 'professional' players in the National League and lower still have second jobs and train on a part-time basis, despite being officially classified as full professionals. It's likely even more clubs in the National League and lower are effectively semi-pro clubs; Dulwich Hamlet consider themselves semi-pro, despite fitting the professional category as defined above, as they train part-time.

It's likely Wrexham got as many as 111 points was due to their players training full-time (among other things ), whilst most of the other sides in the division were training part-time.

[Crusader Royal]

If that league counted then it would already have been beaten.

Wrexham got 111 last season and Notts County finished 2nd on 107. National League doesn't count.

Quite, it's a football league record - the all time record at any level in England is AFC Wimbledon's 130 points when winning the CCL Premier League - they also scored 180 goals that season with their top scorer netting 53 time.

Our 106 season remains the professional record in England. The National League isn't a completely professional division - this season Maidenhead, Dorking, Wealdstone and Oxford City are all semi-professional sides.

On the flip side, there are three professional clubs in the National League North (Scunthorpe; South Shields; King's Lynn) and four in the South (Yeovil; Torquay; Maidstone; Eastbourne). There's additionally one side in the seventh tier (Dulwich Hamlet) who are professional.

The definition of 'professional' is a bit blurred, although apparently the only official difference is semi-professional clubs pay their players during the football season (basically a few weeks before the competitive season starts until the end of the competitive season) whilst professional clubs pay their players all year (including when the off-season). A lot of 'professional' players in the National League and lower still have second jobs and train on a part-time basis, despite being officially classified as full professionals. It's likely even more clubs in the National League and lower are effectively semi-pro clubs; Dulwich Hamlet consider themselves semi-pro, despite fitting the professional category as defined above, as they train part-time.

It's likely Wrexham got as many as 111 points was due to their players training full-time (among other things ), whilst most of the other sides in the division were training part-time.

Surely the term ‘professional’ became redundant years ago.
Every team in the National Leagues and Southern league and equivalent and probably lower pay their players, at most clubs you have contracted players who get a guaranteed weekly wage whether they play or not and non contracted players who get paid when they play.