Why don't we sell Federici?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by LoyalRoyalFan » 16 Aug 2010 17:48

Because he is a decent keeper.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by ellpryjon » 18 Aug 2010 13:24

Because he invented the wheel.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Royal Lady » 18 Aug 2010 18:34

seahawk10 I see a Sal Bibbo show up on my facebook suggested adds. Is he worth sending a request to?
He popped up on mine, I took the plunge and requested an add, but I'm still pending. Thank the Lord for Michael Gilkes I say. :wink:

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Mr Angry » 18 Aug 2010 20:23

This sort of rubbish always gets spouted; I seem to recall that not that long ago there was a huge (internet forum) based demand that Marcus was slow, terrible at crosses, poor distribution etc etc etc and should be replaced by.................Federici.

Marcus who is Wolves' #1 keeper, you know, Wolves, of the Premiership?

:roll:

Thank the Lord that the lunatics aren't running the asylum.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by NR_Royal » 18 Aug 2010 20:55

Mr Angry This sort of rubbish always gets spouted; I seem to recall that not that long ago there was a huge (internet forum) based demand that Marcus was slow, terrible at crosses, poor distribution etc etc etc and should be replaced by.................Federici.

Marcus who is Wolves' #1 keeper, you know, Wolves, of the Premiership?

:roll:

Thank the Lord that the lunatics aren't running the asylum.


He's better for Wolves than he was for us and you know it.


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Royalee » 18 Aug 2010 20:57

andrew1957 I know most posts on here are nothing more than hot air, but this thread is one of the most ridiculous ones and that really is quite an achievement.

FACT - Federici has done a good job and come from nowhere to establish himself as our number 1.

FACT - RFC have a huge problem. Fed is a good keeper


No, your opinion, which as per usual is way off the mark.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Royals-lad14 » 18 Aug 2010 21:54

atm i'd say just to stick with Federici. Because maybe at some point this season Federici could be out for a few weeks then someone like Hamer has the chance to step in and show what he has to offer. It happened when Marcus picked up a calf injury against Blackpool two seasons ago and Marcus from then on could not get back into the team, maybe we could see a repeat of this?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Big Foot » 19 Aug 2010 09:07

Royals-lad14 atm i'd say just to stick with Federici. Because maybe at some point this season Federici could be out for a few weeks then someone like Hamer has the chance to step in and show what he has to offer. It happened when Marcus picked up a calf injury against Blackpool two seasons ago and Marcus from then on could not get back into the team, maybe we could see a repeat of this?

Hamer has the chance to step in anyway

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Mike Hunt » 19 Aug 2010 09:17

Hoop Blah
specialjon Can you explain to me why you rate your own opinion on Federici much higher than Steve coppell, sal bibbo, Mc D, Holger Osieck and many more football coaches?

They all rate him highly and have picked him for matches and rate him higher than all the other keepers we have on our books. No offence or anything but I'll go Mc d's opinion alone never mind the rest of the people I mentioned over yours.

I think potentially some of the keepers on our books could progress to be better than Feds but at the moment he is our number 1 and I'll support him.



Bibbo - doesn't actually pick the team, he just coaches them and I'd have no idea how he rates the keepers we have.

Coppell - took Federici on as cheap cover for Hahnemann. He wasn't convinced at first and wouldn't offer him a contract until we were desperate. After having him at the club for sometime I think he felt he had to give him his chance. Interestingly though he opted for Hahnemann pretty much everytime he could. He probably couldn't/wouldn't afford to keep replace him.

McDermott - Hasn't had a chance to replace him. With the wealth of talent coming up behind Federici he'd probably be hard pressed to waste funds on another keeper without being able to get rid of him.

Holger Osieck - Has he actually picked an Australia squad yet? You do realise he's only been named as manager since their last game? Who else do they have at their disposal, apart from the 2 keepers obviously ahead of him in the pecking order?

I've no idea who the many more coaches are....

Personally I think Federici is a competant keeper at this level, but he's no where near as good as he appears to think he is and makes too many basic mistakes (which don't seem to be getting fewer) to be a top keeper at this level.

To call him an 'International Keeper' is also stretching the imagination a bit. Was Micheal Ricketts ever an international centre forward?


This...

Osieck was named Manager of Australia the same day of the match. He was in attendance but the team was pick and managed by Ham Burger.


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by royal-biscuit-man » 19 Aug 2010 11:10

I'd back Mcd if he did decide to sell Federici. His distribuition is excellent, as is his shot stopping technique. However, Mcd does have three talented young keepers, two of which have penned a new contract, at his disposal, who could replace Fedders. Hamer seemed a good prospect against Torquay, why not give him a go?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by The Goat was fed » 19 Aug 2010 12:12

Can't help but think this is a bit unfair on Feds...

1. He is a great shot stopper - this is the minimum now for keepers, but there I am of the opinion that Federici has made saves last season and this season that Hahnemann may not have saved. I have definitely had more "oh my god, what a save!" moments with Fed than any other keeper since Shaka Hislop. Actually, I had a few with Simon Sheppard, more accurately "OH MY GOD - HE SAVED ONE!"

2. Keepers mature and Fed has. At the start of last season I was genuinely worried that he would be a liability, he turned into one of our best players. This season he has also started well, Scunthorpe goal was a point blank header, Pompey goal was a wicked deflection which are nigh on impossible to save. He has done nothing wrong and actually gives us an option going forward - some claim for a keeper!

3. I sympathise with the argument that if he has good value, we'd be wise to sell him and get a centre-back - as someone who cannot stand Alex Pearce, this would be the only rational explanation for getting rid - but don't go saying Fed is a liability.

4. There is a real RTG aspect on this board that insists on seeing our youth team in the first team. I'm delighted to see the likes of Sigurdsson and Church et al break into the team - but in all honesty, it is only Sigurdsson that has improved the first team, maybe Church when on song. There is limited evidence to suggest that Hamer would be a success, one season at Brentford is not enough, as I said earlier Keepers mature later. In my opinion, it would be premature to throw him in the deep end - especially as Alex MacCarthy and Mikkel Andersson are the next in line. Pearce had two seasons at Southampton and Norwich, which is just one division lower and he is one of the worst footballers to wear a Reading shirt in the last 5 years. (Expecting stick for this - but I think you have to be allowed one slightly over the top opinion on one player a year.)

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Aug 2010 17:51

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by SteveRoyal » 21 Aug 2010 18:02

A decision has to be made at some point in the near future.
We can't keep 4 good 'keepers and have them all happy.
I think we should sell Federici and Andersen, have Hamer and McCarthy fight it out for the No. 1 spot.
Federici's "International" status will add value to his name.


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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Archie's penalty » 21 Aug 2010 18:06

I'd sell him to make the funds for other transfers. The situation at the moment is deadlock, we need movement so I wouldn't cry if Fed left and we got other people in we need more...

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Tony Le Mesmer » 21 Aug 2010 18:29

Fed in a nutshell today

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Hoop Blah » 23 Aug 2010 12:01

The Goat was fed There is limited evidence to suggest that Hamer would be a success, one season at Brentford is not enough, as I said earlier Keepers mature later. In my opinion, it would be premature to throw him in the deep end - especially as Alex MacCarthy and Mikkel Andersson are the next in line.


I'm not convinced Hamer is the solution, but just for the record he's played over 100 first team games over 3 seasons on loan. He not only excelled for Brentford in a season and half but he had a full year on load at Crawley as well (not equal to Champsionship football of course, but his pedigree is more than just 1 season at Brentford all the same).

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Upper West Ginger » 23 Aug 2010 13:06

With both Andersen and McCarthy having been given new contracts, Hamer is in danger of being the one on his way out.
We have a surplus of keepers and need to sell at least 1, preferably 2.
I don't have any strong opinions as to which ones should go - they all seem exceptionally competent to me, a testament to the strength of our coaching.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Forbury Lion » 23 Aug 2010 13:39

NR_Royal He's slow, makes too many crucial mistakes, he's beaten at his near post time and time again and he doesn't inspire much confidence in the team and the fans. Sure he pulls off the odd great save but so do most keepers. We have 3 supposedly excellent keepers at our disposal in Hamer, Andersen and McCarthy and I really think we'd be better of if we sell Federici for around £2 million if anyone wants him in order to fund a centre-back and his wages.

This makes sense, doesn't it? :shock:
I doubt many will want to buy him now for the reasons you've stated above.

Also, our supposedly excellent keepers can't seem to get ahead of him in the pecking order and the odd cup game might make them look better than Federici, as was the case when Federici was in that role and we all thought he would be a good number 1. Confidence is key for a keeper and without playing games our other keepers may lack this, particularly if they start a game and screw up!

Finally, the way the club operates is like this... we sell players, the cash goes to pay bills/loans and the manager gets nowt. So selling Federici isn't going to help that much, particularly as I imagine he's not on a massive salary as he was only ever a number 2 keeper in the premiership cash splashing seasons.

Maybe a specialist goalkeeping coach is the next signing - don't know who we have at the moment, but Federici is still young and would benefit from an experienced coach.

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Re: Why don't we sell Federici?

by Hoop Blah » 23 Aug 2010 14:23

Sal Bibbo is our goalkeeping coach.

...not ALL of us thought Federici would make a better number 1. The worrying thing for me is that he hasn't seemed to progress that much in the couple of years he's been playing at this level.

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